Escape to the Movies: Elysium
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I hate district 9 with the fury of 1000 burning suns and hope everything Neil Blomkamp makes crashes and burns just because of that. it's so heavy handed and defies logic just to make a point. If people are so evil that they'd sell their mother to get the alien weapons...I'm guessing they would just used Catfood to bribe the pawns into doing whatever they wanted rather than toss them into a slum and risk potentially WMD getting out into the hands of gangsters. Our greed and cowardly nature would saved the prawns (You seriously think the US, China, Russia or any other world super power would just sit back for 30 years and let South Africa get us all nuked for being racist when their homeplanet gets word of what awful hosts we've been? Not likely.) then if you're going argue all our flaws turned up to 11.
For sci fi to work the setting can be fantastic, but the people and the world still need to have some semblance of real world reactions and logic for the metaphor to work. If they don't it just fails. No one in District 9 acted like a real person does. I already got my serving of white guilt from D9, I don't need see this sack of crap. Bob basically just confirmed it's heavy handed as hell, and I rather not support another film like that.
For sci fi to work the setting can be fantastic, but the people and the world still need to have some semblance of real world reactions and logic for the metaphor to work. If they don't it just fails. No one in District 9 acted like a real person does. I already got my serving of white guilt from D9, I don't need see this sack of crap. Bob basically just confirmed it's heavy handed as hell, and I rather not support another film like that.
Generally I hate this class warfare bullshit that has pervaded movies of late.
Because limousine liberals just love to tout how much they love what they feel is the struggle of the "common man" from their Ivory Tower Hollywood mansions all the while completely alienating the blue collar folks they feel are beneath them.
However, Blokamp strikes me as a great filmmaker who is not going to get bogged down in typical left-leaning nonsense, and Sharlto Copley is just awesome (H. M Murdock, baby!). So I am certainly willing to give this flick a chance.
Because limousine liberals just love to tout how much they love what they feel is the struggle of the "common man" from their Ivory Tower Hollywood mansions all the while completely alienating the blue collar folks they feel are beneath them.
However, Blokamp strikes me as a great filmmaker who is not going to get bogged down in typical left-leaning nonsense, and Sharlto Copley is just awesome (H. M Murdock, baby!). So I am certainly willing to give this flick a chance.
Hmm Battle Angel Alita would have a bit of trouble getting adapted into a movie. Finding a good actor to play Alita would be tough since genuinely enjoyable action-girls (who don't come cross as trying-too-hard or plain bitchy/unlikieable) are an extreme rarity in Hollywood productions. Quite a few male actors who could've pulled off Daisuke I supposeCasual Shinji said:
The biggest issue is that it's a manga with something like 50+ volumes, i.e. too freaking long, too many characters and events to squeeze into a single movie. The journey of Daisuke finding Alita's discarded top-half to Alita finally turning herself + Tiphares into the Tree Of Life is a LONG one. They would have to greatly cut-down the story and character roster, possibly change plot elements to make it into a movie. Alita didn't discover more about her origins regarding Panzer Kunst till we were into Last Order.
It would be awesome to see the cut-short ending (because how Last Order started was just dumb) where Nova figures out how to turn Alita into a flesh'n'blood human, I cried so hard when Figure discovered her like that
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They could take a page out of the anime's book and make it a smaller more intimate story set against a larger background.Yuuki said:
The intial movie just focussing on Diasuke finding Alita in the trash, fixing her up, and through her we then observe the cyber slums as she realizes she's meant for greater things. Establishing kind of a father/daughter relationship for the emotional core.
As for an actress... Alita/Gally is such an extravagant looking character, not to mention her supersonic abilities, that I could very well see a "Gollum" approach working. Cast a younger actress to perform in CGI. I wouldn't want the entire movie to be riddled with that stuff ofcourse, but for the main character I think it would work.
I completely agree with you that Bob tends to raise some things up for seemingly no reason (Captain America is my least favourite of the Avenger prequels and I think only Iron Man 3 was worse than it) and then shits on others because of some other inner fanboyism (hatred of Into Darkness -a movie which while I didn't think was amazing, I still thoroughly enjoyed).Copper Zen said:
However, having just seen this movie. I can absolutely say that it's pretty damn awesome. Like Bob said, Kruger steals every scene he is in. He's probably the most amazingly psychotic badass I have ever had the pleasure to watch on screen. The story is good, the acting is great, the movie is stunning to look at, the music enhances everything that is going on quite nicely, and the action scenes can be quite spectacular. This might be my favourite movie of the summer (and I loved Pacific Rim and This is the End).
Glad to see a nice balanced review, I was worried that there would be another mass bandwagoning as the other movie critics were very average in the scores.
You all keep saying Battle Angel Alita...
Fair enough, but I see something else in Blomkamps work.
Big aliens with mandible jaws over South Africa? And all those alien weapons..?
Now we have Matt Damon donning the exoskeleton without the master chief armour. Did I see the bad guy with an energy shield? Did Bob mention a sword?
Oh, and the design of Elysium itself? A large space ring... Or Halo if you will.
So with all respect to the Battle Angel Alita fans but WHERE THE FUCK IS MY HALO MOVIE!!!!!
Fair enough, but I see something else in Blomkamps work.
Big aliens with mandible jaws over South Africa? And all those alien weapons..?
Now we have Matt Damon donning the exoskeleton without the master chief armour. Did I see the bad guy with an energy shield? Did Bob mention a sword?
Oh, and the design of Elysium itself? A large space ring... Or Halo if you will.
So with all respect to the Battle Angel Alita fans but WHERE THE FUCK IS MY HALO MOVIE!!!!!
Well, that was a announcement I didn't expect. Seriously, I would have expected Bob to wear a Thanos outfit and just smile darkly at the camera.
Anyway, I hope this film doesn't get to preachy in the up & down levels of social classes and still makes a good Sci-Fi based thriller.
Anyway, I hope this film doesn't get to preachy in the up & down levels of social classes and still makes a good Sci-Fi based thriller.
Because every other film is blaming white people for being evil. Like as if we can help it that we are born from a Caucasian mother and father, and that because we are white we are per definition evil.Makabriel said:
The people who are really evil are the ones who had loads of cash, and still try to tell us that poor people have suffered from rich people but are damned to do anything about it.
And to that, I must say: get thicker skin. I'm white, I've been watching movies condemning the actions of the white man since I was born, and this is nothing new. There's quite a bit for white people to answer for over the history of mankind, and inevitably films will be made about it all. If you can't stop taking offense to villains being white for long enough to enjoy a film, you won't enjoy many films.spunkgarglewiwi said:
I never got District 9, i thought it degenerated into a pretty bland and tedious action movie in the last hour and Elysium doesn't seem to be anything different. I'll probably watch it some day, but not anytime soon.
The trailers defineately aren't selling it.
The trailers defineately aren't selling it.
Nobody cares about your book about playing a videogame. We get it, your a Nintendo fan, but telling me to stick around at the end for to shill your side scroller nostalgia wank book is annoying. Please, stop asking me if I like books and/or videogames. I don't want to read a book about Mario.
And yet all the trailers I've seen for the movie have insinuated that it's the exoskeleton that matters. Bleh, still don't care.TheProfessor234 said:
I'll go see it and judge it for myself whether I would find it engaging as a movie or not, but I still feel what everyone is saying about this review in the comments here. This summer definitely hasn't been the greatest line up of blockbusters so I can understand the frustration Bob must be going through, but recently, it just feels like every episode where he gives a glowing review for a movie, it basically comes down to "Regardless of how good or bad this movie is, go see it to support what I think movies in the industry should be more like."
Go see White House Down because it pushes an extreme political agenda that everyone else is afraid of doing! Go see Pacific Rim because big blockbuster action films need to go in this direction! Go see Elysium because Neil Blomkamp is awesome!
I recall Bob having an idea for Blomkamp to be one of the possible directors for the new Star Wars. To be honest, I think I would have been more upset if Star Wars turned into yet another sci-fi liberal wankfest with a heavy-handed political message as subtle as getting smacked across the face with I-beam.
Again, I'm not saying I think it's horrible that Blomkamp does this in his own intellectual properties like District 9 and Elysium. Just keep that shit where it is, Blomkamp, in your own movie franchises.
Go see White House Down because it pushes an extreme political agenda that everyone else is afraid of doing! Go see Pacific Rim because big blockbuster action films need to go in this direction! Go see Elysium because Neil Blomkamp is awesome!
I recall Bob having an idea for Blomkamp to be one of the possible directors for the new Star Wars. To be honest, I think I would have been more upset if Star Wars turned into yet another sci-fi liberal wankfest with a heavy-handed political message as subtle as getting smacked across the face with I-beam.
Again, I'm not saying I think it's horrible that Blomkamp does this in his own intellectual properties like District 9 and Elysium. Just keep that shit where it is, Blomkamp, in your own movie franchises.
