Escape to the Movies: The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug
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Bob pronounces "Smaug" funny.
"Smowg."
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Sorry, I should probably say something more useful. Umm... sounds good, but I'm still kinda "eh" on the whole Hobbit endeavor. I think Bob summed it up nicely when he described the whole thing as a victory lap.
"Smowg."
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Sorry, I should probably say something more useful. Umm... sounds good, but I'm still kinda "eh" on the whole Hobbit endeavor. I think Bob summed it up nicely when he described the whole thing as a victory lap.
Sniper Team 4 said:
...yes and no. They don't talk normally, but when Bilbo puts on the ring, he understands what the spiders are saying.
OT: I...have a few problems with this movie. It really felt padded out to me and I still think some scenes could have ultimately been cut. This was supposed to be originally a two movie epic and now its kinda showing. Maybe the third one will tie everything together put this movie began to push it. It's still a great movie though.
Oh another Hunger Games jab, well this is going to be fun for the next 500 times Bob does the same thing. At least no-one can ever accuse him of having trouble letting go (to be fair, he didn't mention how he hates Amazing Spider or that Batman's overplayed in this particular video). Although it's worse because it's really bizarre for someone to criticise the Hunger Games for not having enough mindless crowd-pleasing and vapid action.
That aside, I'm really glad the buzz has been that this film is going to be even better than the last
That aside, I'm really glad the buzz has been that this film is going to be even better than the last
As loosely interpreted from one of the most interesting Science Fiction stories in the last decade with plot jettisoned to make it into a typical Hollywood shoot'em up.Movie Bob said:
The only thing good I can think about this movie is that, if its as bad as I think it is, it'll be no competition for the other movie coming out that weekend; The Fault in our Stars (which I'm counting the days until released)
Bob Chipman i name you hypocrite and coward for not picking out the shoehorned in clichéd trope feast of a love story, for the one token female character, who just had to have a soppy love story because shes a chick like.
I thought better of you.
I thought better of you.
I liked this second movie.
Althou if I had directed it I would've made it a lot more slowpaced, they left out some of my favorite parts from the book and I didn't like the ending.
But overall I was very pleased with it.
Althou if I had directed it I would've made it a lot more slowpaced, they left out some of my favorite parts from the book and I didn't like the ending.
I would've ended the movie with Smaug dying. Now the third movie will start with complete chaos and then there's the whole war thing, I feel the third will just be to much death and destruction.
I would've shortened the barrel scene A-LOT and then made the last battle in Erebor shorter --> made Smaug fly to Laketown and have him shot down (after some cool citydestroying) and have the movie end there.
I would also have wanted the Beorn scene be more like from the book, the whole 2 dwarves at a time thing. This time also taken from shortening the barrel scene + battle in the mountain.
I would've shortened the barrel scene A-LOT and then made the last battle in Erebor shorter --> made Smaug fly to Laketown and have him shot down (after some cool citydestroying) and have the movie end there.
I would also have wanted the Beorn scene be more like from the book, the whole 2 dwarves at a time thing. This time also taken from shortening the barrel scene + battle in the mountain.
But overall I was very pleased with it.
I saw it and was really annoyed with things that I didn't really think needed changing, but got a change to lead in to a lengthy battle scene. And some things just seemed arbitrarily changed for zero reason. Like the light showing the keyhole scene. Splitting the party. Dwarves under the mountain. Laketown politics. A lot of what just seemed like padding and changes that seemed to occur for no reason.
That said, Smaug is easily the most bad ass dragon I have seen on film since Dragonslayer. To the point that it really seemed absurd that the dwarves weren't taking casualties in their fight with him.
On more of a nitpick level, stupid liquid metal physics were stupid and there was a strong disconnect between having a corrupt dictator who rules via secret police, gestapo tactics and having him be Stephen Fry.
That said, Smaug is easily the most bad ass dragon I have seen on film since Dragonslayer. To the point that it really seemed absurd that the dwarves weren't taking casualties in their fight with him.
On more of a nitpick level, stupid liquid metal physics were stupid and there was a strong disconnect between having a corrupt dictator who rules via secret police, gestapo tactics and having him be Stephen Fry.
Bob actually seems kind of into it (on his blog). He just hates the title, because the original title of the Japanese Light Novel it's based on is "All you need is Kill." Which is an amazing title.josemlopes said:
Light Novel. The Manga is coming in 2014.Aptspire said:
Tauriel really is the best character in this film. I enjoyed this one much more than the first, but was disappointed in where they chose to end it. Fifteen extra minutes would have been the difference between this movie being a three hour bridge between the first and last movie or it actually having it's own sub-plot complete with a resolution.
Nope, not just you. Their resemblance is uncanny.anthony87 said:
Anyway, I agree and disagree with this review. Personally, I felt that this was the weakest of the Jackson movies so far. The pacing was really choppy in the beginning, with the Beorn scene being the ultimate example in that he really got the shaft and most of the most memorable bits of his part got cut out, and Mirkwood was a bit rushed too. And while I agree that the whole Tauriel thing was well-written and the actress did a great job, but overall her inclusion did feel...unnecessary, like they only added her so the movie would have at least one prominent female role and provide the obligatory romantic sideplot. Personally, I would have preferred it had they just left her out, expanded on some of the parts from the beginning, and had less "Oh look at Legolas and friends (other elves) being awesome!"
But beyond those complaints, I liked it a lot. Bilbo and the Dwarves were wonderful as usual, Benedict Cumberbatch was the perfect choice for Smaug (who may be the most terrifying movie beast since the T-rex in Jurassic Park), and I loved the expanded role both Bard and Gandalf had.
The first film was pretty disappointing for me. A lot of the extra stuff felt unnecessary (especially the whole old Bilbo with Frodo part)and it felt like two different movies were fighting each other. One, was an almost Disney tone that perfectly suited how the book felt, and the other was the much darker and foreboding tone of the LotR trilogy.
That's the most plausible theory about that little discrepancy. I've been pondering for a while if the next Cap movie will have Steve wonder if anyone else took up the Captain America mantle after he was frozen (like in the comics) and go through S.H.I.E.L.D.'s database, finding out about the replacement Caps. But I digress.Vault Citizen said:
I'm still undecided about whether or not to see each individual movie in theaters or shotgun the whole trilogy on Blu-ray.
Just for future reference, Bob. You don't pronounce Armitage as "Ar-mi-tahj", it's "Army-tij".
Otherwise, glad to hear it's a good film, can't wait to see it.
Otherwise, glad to hear it's a good film, can't wait to see it.
"Eh" (or maybe even "meh" if you want me to expand on that) neatly sums up how I feel about the whole 3-part Hobbit sequence myself. I went to see the first one, even though I was hardly champing at the bit to do so and this time around I am having real trouble getting even remotely pumped for the second installment.Zhukov said: