I just saw the movie last night. It was okay, but there was way too much of that Peter Jackson, I'm going to make this my own thing and change lots of things and add things that never happened(I'm not talking about the Gandalf side story), basically the Hollywood touch of mediocrity. Though, at least he wasn't using the other more used, touch of totally destroy and kill, I'm looking at you people who did the epic fail attempt of making the Eragon movie.
Kevin Puszert said:
You know, I actually read the Hobbit.
Frankly, I don't remember any of this shit. There was barely enough content to fill one movie, let alone 2 or 3.
There is enough content by Jackson adding the content that was from the appendices of the Lord of the Rings books, stuff that told what Gandalf was doing during all the times he left the group. That part of the story was published later in 1980 in a book called "Unfinished Tales".
Now what isn't right about the movie is that Jackson was again up to using his old stupid tricks that he did in the Lord of the Rings movies, which were adding things that never happened, stuff that never happened the lore/side stories, and changing/removing characters.
He screwed up Bard's story(effectively changing how about Smaug is killed, not by the means it happens, but by plot points that gets the story to the point of it). He added an unnecessary plot point for one of the side dwarfs, that again, wasn't a part of the book. In the mountain with Smaug, yeah he did have key dialogue that was from scenes in the book, but then added more unnecessary things that never happened, probably and stupidly to "keep up with having more action scenes...a derrp...we need more action and drawn out fight scenes deeeerrp, cause movie endings need high amounts of action...amiright...derp derp."
Peter Jackson here is added more points to why when it comes to Hollywood and books, we just can't have nice things.
Sseth said:
I never understand people who get upset at a movie adaptation that is clearly not trying to be exactly like the book for not being exactly like the book.
If you want a story that's exactly like the book then go read the book.
The point would be that people like me get mad because in many cases books only get one chance when it comes to big budget movies, which logically, if done right, are made for people that read the books, which means if the movie makers know what they are doing, they will stay absolutely faithful to the source material.
And no, the whole "if you wanted what was in the book, then go read the book" argument is invalid.
1.) When people read a book and love it, they sit and imagine the events in their head.
2.) Then when they hear that said loved story is getting turned into a movie, they want to see those points played out in movie form. They want to go, "ah ha, I remember reading that part."
3.) Such people understand that not everything will be exactly as the imagined it, like how the characters move about and such, how they are standing, demeanor and all that. Those are things that are left up for movie creator interpretation.
4.) Such people what every plot point to play out the same as how they play out in the book, and for there to be no unneeded new additions to the plot or new plot points entirely.(And really, for the first movie adaption, that is the way it should always be.)
The overused argument point you made is invalid, because people that read the book want something that build on what they experienced while reading the book with a visual aspect, not a changed angle on the story with stupid filler that didn't happened and isn't needed, and only added to make the movie longer and stupidly add something that will pull people that didn't read the books into watch it or to fit typical "movie standards and pacing".
These problems in the movie industry are why if I ever write a book that becomes loved by people, I will never allow Hollywood to get a hold of the rights to make a movie of it. They can't be trusted to do it exactly right, they always have to stupidly fiddle with something and change the tone of the story and how it works.