Same, I don't know why these people can't be entertained by visually impressive and awesome sounding robots and explosions.Pezzer said:
Escape to the Movies: Transformers Revenge
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Well I believe MovieBob makes a lot of good points, so does every single top film critic that Rotten Tomatoes links to. Try to say the writer for the Rolling Stones is biased because he loved the G1 series too much (whatever the fuck that is). And frankly, I have never seen a single Transformers cartoon, and yet I hated this movie. Do you know why? Its because this movie is one of the worst excuses of story-telling I have ever seen. I went into that theater expecting/wanting to see a fun-loving action movie filled with big stupid robot fights. What did I get? Robot balls and John Tuturro's ass cheeks (I dare one of you to tell me why his ass was necessary in that movie? The fact is that I had no idea which robot was which the entire movies. There were scenes were robots would just go missing and no one wanted to explain where the hell they were. And what about the one robot in the beginning of the movie who cuts someone in half, where did he go for the rest of the film? He faded into the background. I'm pretty sure the girl-robot died, and no one cared! That's bad storytelling, that's bad directing, and that's a bad movie.
Movies like this are good for mindless entertainment, for me at least.
I wouldn't go to the cinema to see it, but a year or so down the line when this thing appears on Sky Movies, I'd be happy to tune in, switch off my brain and watch giant robots larking about and blowing shit up.
But then, I never got into Transformers as a kid, I don't know whether or not thats due to me being in the wrong generation (born in '90) or what, but I really don't know anything about the Transformers universe other than the two factions and their leaders.
I wouldn't go to the cinema to see it, but a year or so down the line when this thing appears on Sky Movies, I'd be happy to tune in, switch off my brain and watch giant robots larking about and blowing shit up.
But then, I never got into Transformers as a kid, I don't know whether or not thats due to me being in the wrong generation (born in '90) or what, but I really don't know anything about the Transformers universe other than the two factions and their leaders.
I knew it was going to be bad going in, so it wasn't as big as a let down as i thought it would be.
Then I saw Devastator.
I let out a mighty "WHAT THE FUCK?!!" when he did absolutley nothing and was taken out by some fruit with a shot to the "balls".
Now, thinking about it, I hated every second of the movie that wasn't the Transformers. The whole college bit...lame. The new little roommate n00b...lame.
Optimus dual-wielding was the best part of the movie.
Then I saw Devastator.
I let out a mighty "WHAT THE FUCK?!!" when he did absolutley nothing and was taken out by some fruit with a shot to the "balls".
Now, thinking about it, I hated every second of the movie that wasn't the Transformers. The whole college bit...lame. The new little roommate n00b...lame.
Optimus dual-wielding was the best part of the movie.
Yes, the humor was ridiculous, Devastator's balls were unnecesary, the twins and wheelie were immature, and the army guys start hogging the camera towards the end. But you know what? None of that matters because JETFIRE IS FUCKING AWESOME! Big alien robot that looks and acts like a grumpy old Englishman? Hell yeah! I don't care what he was like in G1, but then, I'm not a G1 fanboy anyway, so I wouldn't know. Hell, it's not like G1 is godly perfection or anything.
And please Bob, don't try to hide the fact that this really is just fanboy rage. Come on, were you really expecting perfect replicas of the G1 models to appear in live-action? Not every movie is Watchmen you know, but then Watchmen was awesome because it was awesome, not because it followed the source material perfectly. You said it yourself; such guarantees nothing! Besides, I noticed they made some effort to make Megatron look a little more like his G1 self, giving him a distinct helmet and whatnot. That and Starscream going behind his back to claim leadership over the Decepticons, complete with squeaky, backstabbing voice. And yes, the Decepticon hideout and the Fallen looked like something out of Aliens. BIG FUCKING DEAL! Care to complain about the T-X making a guest appearance while you're at it?
Don't get me wrong, I didn't think this movie was perfect either, but it certainly wasn't the disaster you seem to think it is. But if it helps any, even Shia himself realises how much of a douche he comes across as.
And please Bob, don't try to hide the fact that this really is just fanboy rage. Come on, were you really expecting perfect replicas of the G1 models to appear in live-action? Not every movie is Watchmen you know, but then Watchmen was awesome because it was awesome, not because it followed the source material perfectly. You said it yourself; such guarantees nothing! Besides, I noticed they made some effort to make Megatron look a little more like his G1 self, giving him a distinct helmet and whatnot. That and Starscream going behind his back to claim leadership over the Decepticons, complete with squeaky, backstabbing voice. And yes, the Decepticon hideout and the Fallen looked like something out of Aliens. BIG FUCKING DEAL! Care to complain about the T-X making a guest appearance while you're at it?
Don't get me wrong, I didn't think this movie was perfect either, but it certainly wasn't the disaster you seem to think it is. But if it helps any, even Shia himself realises how much of a douche he comes across as.
Simple.sneakypenguin said:
Look at the name of the film. Transformers.
Now...unless the meatbags can turn into something else, get the FUCK out of the film! We do not need to see another smattering of angst and breasts all over things that were originally a KID'S TOY.
FFS
Transformers is a story about an alien robotic civil war, not about the Army, Growing Up and Fox Cleavage.
Want emotion? LOOK AT THE ROBOTS AND GIVE THEM EMOTION. GIVE THE MAIN CHARACTERS OF THE MOVIE A REASON TO LIKE/DIFFERENTIATE THEM. THAT'S HOW TOMB RAIDER FAILED.
This does not mean the Jar-Jar Binks Twins.
Seriously, just put all the 80's nostalgia back and we promise to shut up about it forever, but cut the necrocopromancy.
I've got to say that I find critics anger over a summer fluff film hilarious.
And that goes for any besides Moviebob.
Come on, movie bob. Don't walk in here, tell me that the first Transformers was the worst movie of the century (Bullshit, by the way), and rant near-endlessly about your hate for the new film, and tell us it's not a fanboy thing. If you walk into any summer film, any one, and expect Oscar winning material with true-to-source script writing, then you're in the wrong business.
Who honestly expects a movie like Transformers (1 or 2), or The Transporter (Any of them), or any summer action fun flick to be good? With great acting? And a good story?
Die hard, The Transporter, Terminator, Transformers, and movies like that all have terrible stories, with terrible acting. But you know why they are good? Because it's good guys kicking the shit out of bad guys. With explosions, bullets, and a tack-on love scene with a good looking girl. Who cares if her personality is that of a soiled bed-sheet in a motel 6? That's not the point of the film!
I loved the Transporter, as an example. Jason Statham kicks the shit out of guys for the entire movie. The acting was so very very bad (Especially the female lead), and the story was laughably awful, but who cares? Jason beat the shit out of guys! Wearing bicycle pedals! On grease! And in a bus! So I love the film. Not because I was moved or engaged, but because it fills a need for ass-kickery that most 'Oscar worthy' film don't even touch.
Don't get me wrong, however, I think Micheal bay is about as creative as a brick in a coma.
But Bob, flat out: You missed the point. You took a summer fluff film, that no-one expects to be this amazingly written piece of cinema, and nitpicked because you hate the director, and you hate the fact that it isn't 'true to source'. The robots have emotions and such? Who cares? I want to see robots blow shit up, not discuss their feelings. I get 'feeling' talk from the movies my wife makes me watch.
Seriously Bob. Didn't like the film? Fine. That's totally fine. But really, You're missing the point.
And that goes for any besides Moviebob.
Come on, movie bob. Don't walk in here, tell me that the first Transformers was the worst movie of the century (Bullshit, by the way), and rant near-endlessly about your hate for the new film, and tell us it's not a fanboy thing. If you walk into any summer film, any one, and expect Oscar winning material with true-to-source script writing, then you're in the wrong business.
Who honestly expects a movie like Transformers (1 or 2), or The Transporter (Any of them), or any summer action fun flick to be good? With great acting? And a good story?
Die hard, The Transporter, Terminator, Transformers, and movies like that all have terrible stories, with terrible acting. But you know why they are good? Because it's good guys kicking the shit out of bad guys. With explosions, bullets, and a tack-on love scene with a good looking girl. Who cares if her personality is that of a soiled bed-sheet in a motel 6? That's not the point of the film!
I loved the Transporter, as an example. Jason Statham kicks the shit out of guys for the entire movie. The acting was so very very bad (Especially the female lead), and the story was laughably awful, but who cares? Jason beat the shit out of guys! Wearing bicycle pedals! On grease! And in a bus! So I love the film. Not because I was moved or engaged, but because it fills a need for ass-kickery that most 'Oscar worthy' film don't even touch.
Don't get me wrong, however, I think Micheal bay is about as creative as a brick in a coma.
But Bob, flat out: You missed the point. You took a summer fluff film, that no-one expects to be this amazingly written piece of cinema, and nitpicked because you hate the director, and you hate the fact that it isn't 'true to source'. The robots have emotions and such? Who cares? I want to see robots blow shit up, not discuss their feelings. I get 'feeling' talk from the movies my wife makes me watch.
Seriously Bob. Didn't like the film? Fine. That's totally fine. But really, You're missing the point.
I ADORE the Transporter movies. (Crank, as well.) They're the epitome of what a "fluff" movie SHOULD be: Light, insanely fun and well-made.Baby Tea said:
"Transformers" is not "The Transporter." Transporter has well-executed action scenes and a lead character I can relate to and root for. The first ten minutes of Transporter 1 (bank-robbery to wow-this-dude-knows-how-to-live introduction of his crazy-sophisticated house and habits) is just about the most perfect "I wanna be THIS GUY!" introductions for an action hero since Conan the Barbarian's "crush-your-enemies" speech. And while it's not "smart," it's CLEVER and it never insults the intelligence of the audience watching it.
Transformers doesn't just insult my intelligence, it OFFENDS my intelligence. My brain doesn't "turn off" far enough to make it tolerable - I'd have to be COMATOSE to not notice how stupid it is.
I hated the original so much and I have refused to even look at the adverts for this. I will happily ignore this one too.
I'm really enjoying your reviews! Trash deserves to be bashed and good movies must be brought to a bigger audience! Your format also works very good and I don't see any reason to deviate from it! It's your personal opinion and that's what counts.
I'd also love to hear reviews about older movies that you appreciate - or hate. There are most definitely more good OLD movies out there than there are good NEW ones!
Recently, I had the chance to see the French movie MARTYRS. To me this is the most controversial film in a VERY long time! (Especially so, since I usually avoid "torture porn" like the plague!) I'd love to hear your opinion on that one!
Regards,
The_Zar.
I'd also love to hear reviews about older movies that you appreciate - or hate. There are most definitely more good OLD movies out there than there are good NEW ones!
Recently, I had the chance to see the French movie MARTYRS. To me this is the most controversial film in a VERY long time! (Especially so, since I usually avoid "torture porn" like the plague!) I'd love to hear your opinion on that one!
Regards,
The_Zar.