Escapism or self-delusion? (re: pointless causes)

Recommended Videos

Jamboxdotcom

New member
Nov 3, 2010
1,276
0
0
By now most of you have probably seen or heard of the current Facebook campaign wherein people are urged to change their profile pics to cartoon characters from their childhood. This is purported to be a campaign to stop child abuse. Obviously, anyone with any common sense knows that this will have zero effect on the problem of child abuse, and as a result, many people are angered by it.

But i was pondering the fact that if there were no cause attached to it, and it was just the newest "game", i would have no problem whatsoever with changing my pic to a cartoon. In that case, it would be merely a diversion, a source of entertainment or escapism.

Then i realized that in essence, that's all the campaign is anyway. A campaign to combat child abuse by changing your profile pic? Why, that's the same as signing an online petition, or clicking your mouse to donate rice to a third-world country! In other words, it's something we can do to make ourselves feel better, without actually doing anything meaningful. At its core, is this any different than other forms of escapism?

From my own perspective, i feel that the key difference is the self-delusion. With most forms of escapism, we at least acknowledge what we are doing: escaping the cold, hard truth of our existences. But with these "feel good" causes, people think they are actually having an impact, despite having no more effect than if they'd sat around scratching their asses all day.

What do you think? Is there a difference?


tl;dr: Is there any difference between pointless feel-good causes like the current "fight child abuse by changing your Facebook profile pic" and your standard escapism such as gaming, reading, watching tv/movies?

*edit* To clarify, i'm not trying to debate whether these kinds of slactivist campaigns are worthwhile, i'm trying to debate whether they're any different from anything else that serves no purpose beyond making those involved feel good.

i.e. is "Ooooo, i am helping the children without making any actual effort" any different than "Man, i loves killing me some zombies."

also, thank you Gxas and SimuLord for reminding me of the term "slactivism".
 

TaboriHK

New member
Sep 15, 2008
811
0
0
The only difference is the moralizing a lot of people feel they are thusly entitled to.
 

Palademon

New member
Mar 20, 2010
4,167
0
0
Well, it raises awareness, and is a nice excuse for me to have a pic of a ficitonal character without people being like "Wtf?".
 

Cpt_Oblivious

Not Dead Yet
Jan 7, 2009
6,933
0
0
I'd agree and say that there is a difference. With the recent Facebook example people have tricked themselves, believing that they're "doing their bit" for the cause, when in reality they're doing nothing. In other forms of escapism there isn't this self-delusion and we accept we're merely having fun for our own benefit.

Personally, I didn't change my profile photo and instead donated to the NSPCC at the charity box at the chip shop.
 

oreopizza47

New member
May 2, 2010
578
0
0
Palademon said:
Well, it raises awareness, and is a nice excuse for me to have a pic of a ficitonal character without people being like "Wtf?".
This is my thoughts, verbatim. Although, I don't think I needed that excuse, because my previous pic was me wearing a Sonic hat.
 

Jack and Calumon

Digimon are cool.
Dec 29, 2008
4,188
0
41
It does have a point.

Some Greek Guy/Gal said:
Aπό 16 έως 20 Νοέμβρη ας αλλάξουμε όλοι τις φωτογραφίες των προφίλ μας, αντικαθιστώντας τις με κάποια φωτογραφία ήρωα των παιδικών μας χρόνων. Σκοπός αυτού του παιχνιδιού είναι να μην υπάρχει ανθρώπινη φωτογραφία για λίγες μέρες στο Facebook
Which roughly translates to:

Some Translated Greek Guy/Gal said:
From the 16th to the 20th of November, we shall change our profile pictures to our favourite cartoon characters. The purpose of this game is to remove all photos of human for a few days from Facebook.
Source

OT: I believe in little things making a big thing, and every tiny bit making a difference, so... yeah. Hope I'm not the only one who thinks that. Otherwise this place just got a loooot more pessimistic around here.

Calumon: I hope I'd be there. : )
 

SenseOfTumour

New member
Jul 11, 2008
4,512
0
0
The whole rice click site seemed to make sense, see some ads and they'll donate a couple of pence worth of food, and it costs nothing to you, the other examples however, yeah, pointless.

Up there with emails telling me that if I don't forward it to ten people I love I'll get cancer of the keyboard or something, but if I do I'll be a millionaire and find true love.
 

Gxas

New member
Sep 4, 2008
3,187
0
0
I saw the Facebook thing referred to as "slacktivism". I like that term. I like it a lot.
 

SimuLord

Whom Gods Annoy
Aug 20, 2008
10,075
0
0
Gxas said:
I saw the Facebook thing referred to as "slacktivism". I like that term. I like it a lot.
As do I. I think it was coined by Barbara Mikkelson of Snopes. If someone has an earlier citation of the term, please share.

As for the cartoon character thing, I did it just to have an excuse to run a picture of Screwy Squirrel for the weekend.
 

the Dept of Science

New member
Nov 9, 2009
1,007
0
0
I'm currently pissing off a lot of my Facebook friends by calling them out on this bullshit.

Even the most valid argument about "Raising Awareness" (this Facebook campaign is essentially working as free advertising for the NSPCC) I think is silly. Everyone who isn't completely retarded/sheltered is aware of child abuse and the NSPCC. While I'm sure there have been people that have started donating because of this, the fact is this is creating tens of thousands of people who FEEL that they are doing their part without actually doing anything to help.
I'd love to see one of these slacktivists come face to face with a victim of child abuse. "Sorry kid I didn't give you any money, but I did change my Facebook profile pic for you guys".

I wouldn't have any problem with people chang their pictures, its just the banner under which they are waving it. Maybe tomorrow I'll go and watch TV all day in aid of Cancer patients.
Thing is, its not even about effort really. It doesn't take more than 5 minutes to make a donation online. If every person who changed their picture did this instead then something might actually be acheived.

Ok, rant over... for now.
 

PurplePlatypus

Duel shield wielder
Jul 8, 2010
592
0
0
Is this even raising awareness? Everyone knows it exists and I don?t really think pointing it out again helps people to come forward or shows people how they may spot it.
 

Jamboxdotcom

New member
Nov 3, 2010
1,276
0
0
the Dept of Science said:
I'm currently pissing off a lot of my Facebook friends by calling them out on this bullshit.

Even the most valid argument about "Raising Awareness" (this Facebook campaign is essentially working as free advertising for the NSPCC) I think is silly. Everyone who isn't completely retarded/sheltered is aware of child abuse and the NSPCC. While I'm sure there have been people that have started donating because of this, the fact is this is creating tens of thousands of people who FEEL that they are doing their part without actually doing anything to help.
I'd love to see one of these slacktivists come face to face with a victim of child abuse. "Sorry kid I didn't give you any money, but I did change my Facebook profile pic for you guys".

I wouldn't have any problem with people chang their pictures, its just the banner under which they are waving it. Maybe tomorrow I'll go and watch TV all day in aid of Cancer patients.
Thing is, its not even about effort really. It doesn't take more than 5 minutes to make a donation online. If every person who changed their picture did this instead then something might actually be acheived.

Ok, rant over... for now.
yeah, this is exactly what pisses me off about the whole idea. and i would like to commend those people who took this opportunity to donate to the various child abuse prevention organizations, instead of simply showing their solidarity for a cause that no one should need to show solidarity for (since it's such an unarguably good cause...saying you're against child abuse is about as useful as saying you're against gang-rape and cannibalism).

however, i would like to reemphasize that i'm not trying to debate whether or not these slactivist campaigns are worthwhile, i'm trying to debate whether they're any different than anything else that serves no other purpose than to make us feel good.
 

Wadders

New member
Aug 16, 2008
3,793
0
0
I think the FB thing is fucking useless. It wont help stop child abuse, and it wont really raise awareness wither. Its not like no-one fucking knew about child abuse before everyone put pictures of cartoons on their facebook page.

To quote a post I saw on a friends wall "To all those that have changed your profile picture, I bid you this benevolent message at this seasonal period of time: Thanks to your gratuitous actions, child abuse has plummeted by 99%. Let power of Barbra Streisland decend upon this festive occasion."

I know someone who changed their picture to a photo of Josef Fritzel though, which was quite amusing.
 

Anarchemitis

New member
Dec 23, 2007
9,100
0
0
You mean like how we use video games to enjoy our time in a setting in which humans control all the variables?
 

ZephrC

Free Cascadia!
Mar 9, 2010
750
0
0
I really, really despise the term "raising awareness". It's a fucking fund drive. You're not making anybody aware of anything. You're trying to get them to give you money. Admit what you're doing and maybe if it's a good cause I'll give some to you. Until then anybody that's "raising awareness" is an idiot or a liar.
 

Jamboxdotcom

New member
Nov 3, 2010
1,276
0
0
ZephrC said:
I really, really despise the term "raising awareness". It's a fucking fund drive. You're not making anybody aware of anything. You're trying to get them to give you money. Admit what you're doing and maybe if it's a good cause I'll give some to you. Until then anybody that's "raising awareness" is an idiot or a liar.
except that that's actually the most annoying, stupid thing about this Facebook thing: there is no mention anywhere of any charitable organizations such as the NSPCC. if they did mention it, i wouldn't have a problem. as it stands, they seem to be claiming to help the problem simply by clicking a button.
 

astrav1

New member
Jul 6, 2009
986
0
0
Slactivism, good word. I agree fully with you. It is a way for people to think that they are doing something good with minimal effort.
 

ZephrC

Free Cascadia!
Mar 9, 2010
750
0
0
Jamboxdotcom said:
ZephrC said:
I really, really despise the term "raising awareness". It's a fucking fund drive. You're not making anybody aware of anything. You're trying to get them to give you money. Admit what you're doing and maybe if it's a good cause I'll give some to you. Until then anybody that's "raising awareness" is an idiot or a liar.
except that that's actually the most annoying, stupid thing about this Facebook thing: there is no mention anywhere of any charitable organizations such as the NSPCC. if they did mention it, i wouldn't have a problem. as it stands, they seem to be claiming to help the problem simply by clicking a button.
Wow. Just... wow. I should remember to never underestimate Facebook's ability to be mind-bogglingly stupid, I guess.

I'm gonna go put an end to world hunger by eating lunch. At least I'm technically reducing the amount of hunger in the world, so I'm helping more than these people!
 

the Dept of Science

New member
Nov 9, 2009
1,007
0
0
Jamboxdotcom said:
the Dept of Science said:
yeah, this is exactly what pisses me off about the whole idea. and i would like to commend those people who took this opportunity to donate to the various child abuse prevention organizations, instead of simply showing their solidarity for a cause that no one should need to show solidarity for (since it's such an unarguably good cause...saying you're against child abuse is about as useful as saying you're against gang-rape and cannibalism).

however, i would like to reemphasize that i'm not trying to debate whether or not these slactivist campaigns are worthwhile, i'm trying to debate whether they're any different than anything else that serves no other purpose than to make us feel good.
Well in that case I would say yes, because there are plenty of things we can do that serve no purpose other than to make ourselves feel good, yet aren't under any false pretenses or empty self-righteous guestures. If people were changing their Facebook profile pics for the fun of it, I would have no issue. This worse that watching a film or playing a game because it reaks to high heaven of bullshit.
Also, charity is an area that you want people to feel, to some extent, bad about. I don't want people to be satisfied with chaning their proflile pictures. I want them to be unsatisfied until they do something that might make a lick of difference, like donating money or volunteering.
 

MonkeyFish189

New member
Dec 6, 2010
2
0
0
Me and a few of my friends were having a similar debate a while back, over whether any action is truly selfless. I was of the opinion that all acts we do due to personal judgment, therefore acting by personal desire, even if it is a desire for justice or for good. Basically we're all selfish, and so no act is really any different in purpose than any other, they are all for personal satisfaction, be it digging a well in Africa, changing your DP or playing games. Admittedly though some of these are more on the "escapist" side of things, but none are purely selfless.