escapist escapism

steampunk42

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I've been coming to this site for over a year now and been a member of it for about 6 months. now, the whole time i realize the name of the site is a lean towards the theory of escapism and the desire to go to an different place/reality/time but after while i realized is the idea of escapism healthy? First, please don't verbally kill me I'm just speaking my opinion but is it good for people to want to escape into a mad up world? Feel free to (lightly) criticize my stance on the theory but what our your opinions on it? Yes this is a philosophy discussion get over it.!
 

JRCB

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It is a good thing. It's perfectly natural to want to be where you're not (or can never be).

Also, it leads to great ideas for stories.
 

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No, because escapism, however joyful it may be, cannot provide food.
 

steampunk42

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JRCB said:
It is a good thing. It's perfectly natural to want to be where you're not (or can never be).

Also, it leads to great ideas for stories.
hmm...guess i forgot about the fact it could be inspirational....woops
 

The Eggplant

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Absolutely. Escapism has its roots in the process of imagination, without which I'm confident that humanity would have gone collectively insane long before now. Like any indulgence, excessive escapism is potentially a problem--just ask those Korean and Chinese kids you occasionally hear about in the news who died from WoW addiction or somesuch. (Oh wait, you can't. THEY'RE DEAD.) But in the absolute absence of escapism and the ability to pretend, what exactly would separate humanity from automatons? Without the creative force of the imagination, we'd be deprived of almost everything that we've come to collectively value as culturally valuable, and might even lack emotional functionality. After all, there's nothing concrete tying us to the concepts of love, hate, and whatnot...they're manifestations of a creative force, just as the concept of escapism is.

And just because I feel this is actually semi-relevant and I'm on a Daoism trip, here's a little somethin' somethin' from the Dao De Ching:

"I have the ability to remain poised and centered
Regardless of what proceeds before me."

Which is kinda how I view escapism. Indulge in bouts of both intense productivity and intense imagination, but never forget to maintain a balance. (Hey, you said this was philosophical...don't blame me for upping the pretension level right from the get-go.)
 

steampunk42

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The Eggplant said:
Absolutely. Escapism has its roots in the process of imagination, without which I'm confident that humanity would have gone collectively insane long before now. Like any indulgence, excessive escapism is potentially a problem--just ask those Korean and Chinese kids you occasionally hear about in the news who died from WoW addiction or somesuch. (Oh wait, you can't. THEY'RE DEAD.) But in the absolute absence of escapism and the ability to pretend, what exactly would separate humanity from automatons?

And just because I feel this is actually semi-relevant and I'm on a Daoism trip, here's a little somethin' somethin' from the Dao De Ching:

"I have the ability to remain poised and centered
Regardless of what proceeds before me."

Which is kinda how I view escapism. Indulge in bouts of both intense productivity and intense imagination, but never forget to maintain a balance. (Hey, you said this was philosophical...don't blame me for upping the pretension level right from the get-go.)
so basically "go ahead and live in fantasy but dont forget that it isnt the real world?"
cause that actually is a fair decent argument...nice
 

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Tharwen said:
No, because escapism, however joyful it may be, cannot provide food.
Or in your case, motor oil :p

OT: Theres nothing wrong with escapism, so long as it is done in moderation. Living all of your life without taking some time out to do something trivial or pointless, to do something that makes you Escape that desk job or yours is just as bad as thinking your a dragon.

EDIT: Damn seems like I was ninja'd by a man who explained it far better than me two minutes ago...

Shucks.
 

The Eggplant

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steampunk42 said:
The Eggplant said:
Absolutely. Escapism has its roots in the process of imagination, without which I'm confident that humanity would have gone collectively insane long before now. Like any indulgence, excessive escapism is potentially a problem--just ask those Korean and Chinese kids you occasionally hear about in the news who died from WoW addiction or somesuch. (Oh wait, you can't. THEY'RE DEAD.) But in the absolute absence of escapism and the ability to pretend, what exactly would separate humanity from automatons?

And just because I feel this is actually semi-relevant and I'm on a Daoism trip, here's a little somethin' somethin' from the Dao De Ching:

"I have the ability to remain poised and centered
Regardless of what proceeds before me."

Which is kinda how I view escapism. Indulge in bouts of both intense productivity and intense imagination, but never forget to maintain a balance. (Hey, you said this was philosophical...don't blame me for upping the pretension level right from the get-go.)
so basically "go ahead and live in fantasy but dont forget that it isnt the real world?"
cause that actually is a fair decent argument...nice
Pretty much spot-on, but I'd also add that even devoting yourself completely to the "real world" can be a form of escapism from yourself. Always remember that you are what you are and not necessarily what you do, I guess.
 

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Too much of it is very unhealthy. I've seen it turn out horribly a ton of times. People just get too absorbed in it sometimes, and start to let it ruin their real life. Thankfully, that seems to be a minority of people who enjoy their escapism in real life.
 

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The Eggplant said:
steampunk42 said:
The Eggplant said:
Absolutely. Escapism has its roots in the process of imagination, without which I'm confident that humanity would have gone collectively insane long before now. Like any indulgence, excessive escapism is potentially a problem--just ask those Korean and Chinese kids you occasionally hear about in the news who died from WoW addiction or somesuch. (Oh wait, you can't. THEY'RE DEAD.) But in the absolute absence of escapism and the ability to pretend, what exactly would separate humanity from automatons?

And just because I feel this is actually semi-relevant and I'm on a Daoism trip, here's a little somethin' somethin' from the Dao De Ching:

"I have the ability to remain poised and centered
Regardless of what proceeds before me."

Which is kinda how I view escapism. Indulge in bouts of both intense productivity and intense imagination, but never forget to maintain a balance. (Hey, you said this was philosophical...don't blame me for upping the pretension level right from the get-go.)
so basically "go ahead and live in fantasy but dont forget that it isnt the real world?"
cause that actually is a fair decent argument...nice
Pretty much spot-on, but I'd also add that even devoting yourself completely to the "real world" can be a form of escapism from yourself. Always remember that you are what you are and not necessarily what you do, I guess.
Truer words were never spoken. Escape from things that are stressful or frightening is perfectly natural, as our fight-or-flight response has us do from physical stimuli. Why not escape into fantasy for awhile?
 

Irony's Acolyte

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Escapism can be good. Sometimes you just need to get away from the world for just a little bit so that when you come back to it you have level-head and are ready to deal with it. Too much escapism can be damaging though. I have to say from personal experience that life tends to pass you by a bit when you don't really focus on it too much. Course get too caught up with escapism and you begin to not care anyway.

But without a little bit of escapism you begin to loss your mind anyway.
 

k0kRoach

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I don't find much difference in escaping into a video game and taking a vacation. Thoreau's Walden was a sort of escapism. Like most everything, moderation is key. Spend too long on vacation and you lose your job. I'd like to see someone spend pretty much every waking moment in WoW for two years (I'm sure this has happened) and write a book on it.

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Subzerowings

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I wouldn't say it's unhealty, but not eating, sleep deprevation, et ceteri are.
There's nothing inherently wrong with escapism, but a addiction to it might be.

steampunk42 said:
I've been coming to this site for over a year now and I've been a member of it for about 6 months. Now, this whole time I realize that the name of the site is a lean towards the theory of escapism and the desire to go to a different place/reality/time, but after while I asked myself: Is the idea of escapism healthy? First, please don't verbally kill me. I'm just speaking my opinion, but is it good for people to want to escape into a made up world? Feel free to (lightly) criticize my stance on the theory, but what are your opinions on it? Yes, this is a philosophical discussion. Get over it.!
There, fixed the whole thing.
Sorry, my OCD was killing me.
 

Imsety

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Escapism has nothing to do with 'wanting to escape into a made-up world', it just means that you enjoy things beside your 'own' life. Things like books, movies and of course video games are all forms of escapism.

In the end, it's all about balance. If you manage to balance escapism with a fulfilling life, you'll do just fine.
 
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Gerald, my favourite talking elf, refutes your ideas as negligible in substance.

Well, I'm off to peruse the many hallways of Grimora, the underground village in the sky.