You must not have showered for weeks because you wanted to hold onto the smell of euphoria.SaneAmongInsane said:
I mean this all in good fun.
[Euphoric] Fedora wearing Thief targeting churches
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I mean this all in good fun.
Yeah, I understand stereotypes. I just think they fucking suck, and that judging someone personally based upon their clothing choices to be a naive and incredibly short-sighted thing to do. As I tried to get across in my first comment, I expected this sort of bullshit to be the last thing done on a video game forum.Multi-Hobbyist said:
So, people wearing a fedora is short hand for a critical thinker we feel justify hating because he/she doesn't agree with the dogma that I blindly believe. Wow! Everyday I find something that justifies me in believing that we are getting more stupid. This thread confirms that for me today.
We really just need to let the fedora go. It's a relic of the past. Even if someone happens to look presentable in it (which is a long shot in and of itself) they'll still look terribly out of place rocking 1940s-60s men's fashion outside of the Mad Men studio.Lyri said:Speaking as a man who likes to dress well, I challenge you to post a picture of yourself in the hat.SaneAmongInsane said:
Fedoras look horrible in most cases, they are not nice hats at all unless you happen to tie it off like ol' blue eyes here.
I see the same thing with people who fail miserably at cosplaying: it's not just about getting the look to work for you, it's about you getting the look to work for yourself. These clothes were designed with that character in mind - not you.
For anyone wanting to dress well, here's a link [http://tuxbell.com/fa/majortest/index.php?title=Main_Page] that may help with some questions, and help you avoid the pitfalls that so many others have fallen into.
Thought I'd put these up.
Just for clarification.
These are for
A. Anyone who doesn't get the joke
B. Anyone who gets the joke but is too tight-assed to accept it as a joke, potentially because it hits too close to home
or
C. Anyone who genuinely doesn't know the difference between a fedora and trilby.
I think these are important to note. Personally.
Just for clarification.
These are for
A. Anyone who doesn't get the joke
B. Anyone who gets the joke but is too tight-assed to accept it as a joke, potentially because it hits too close to home
or
C. Anyone who genuinely doesn't know the difference between a fedora and trilby.
I think these are important to note. Personally.
Honestly, this is the kind of post that would earn a *tips fedora* or [euphoric intensifies] type response on a lot of sites.KissingSunlight said:
Making fun of the fedora doesn't so much poke fun at atheists as it does the attitude that a sub-group of atheists seem to have taken on. The type of person that goes out of his way to start arguments on the internet ("I'm an atheist, debate me") with the most off-putting smug self-importance. The type of person to trumpet themselves as a "critical thinker" or "intellectual samurai" because they are an atheist is what's being mocked here.
Here's the quote the whole Euphoria thing started from:
Now I don't know about you, but just reading that makes me cringe. Not because of what was said, but because of how it was presented.
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Dude, pretty much everyone in this thread is joking around, I know from other threads that a lot of us areKissingSunlight said:
No, it's a shorthand for arrogant jackass who replaced their sense of tact and common decency with a massive sense of smug satisfaction and who lacks all respect for those outside of his superior segment of the human population, that being white, western, middle-class+, atheist, males. Critical thinking does not come into play at any point.KissingSunlight said:
Fun fact: the fedora is named after Princess Fedora, a character in the opera named after her who wore that style of hat as part of her generally (socially unacceptable at the time) masculine style of dress. It quickly became a feminist symbol, throwing off the impractical styles women were traditionally restricted to and such. It is a classy and attractive hat, which can now be pulled of successfully by classy and attractive people of either gender in order to look even more classy and attractive.
Then a bunch of neckbeard 'Mens Rights Activists' start wearing shitty dollar store trilbys and erroneously calling them fedoras, and now the internet reacts with immediate rage and/or lulz to the word.
Then a bunch of neckbeard 'Mens Rights Activists' start wearing shitty dollar store trilbys and erroneously calling them fedoras, and now the internet reacts with immediate rage and/or lulz to the word.
If you respond to people questioning your belief (regardless if it's about religion, social issues, pop culture, etc.) with demonization and ridicule. You are the one being the obnoxious jerk. If your position on the issue is strong enough, then you wouldn't have to resort to name-calling and stereotyping. You would be able to respond in a rational, fact based way.
It should go without saying. Robbing anybody (church, store, home, etc.) is bad. People responsible for this crime should be caught and punished. Regardless, if he/she is wearing a fedora, bonnet, or absolutely nothing.
It should go without saying. Robbing anybody (church, store, home, etc.) is bad. People responsible for this crime should be caught and punished. Regardless, if he/she is wearing a fedora, bonnet, or absolutely nothing.
I dont really get this joke. For a site which prides itself on tolerating those who are different we seem to be straight-up bullying people based on their clothing
What bothers me more is that he got his hat choice clearly wrong. He robbed somewhere but didnt wear one of these
What bothers me more is that he got his hat choice clearly wrong. He robbed somewhere but didnt wear one of these
But here's the thing that is annoying me: do we actually know this guy's personality? Or what he's like? Has he been caught, or has the internet learned who he is? If so, please tell me. Otherwise, all these amazingly funny jokes have been conjured from a simple image without any actual knowledge. It proves to me that anyone wearing this kind of hat without a suit brings forth mockery first and foremost. If we knew this guy was a smug asshole, then I wouldn't even be bringing this all up. But we don't.TizzytheTormentor said:
We know he is an asshole for stealing, sure, but I see very few people riding on his case for that. It's all about the hat, and we do not know if he is this so called "euphoric" guy or not. Maybe he is, but I just feel very uncomfortable in judging a persons character based on clothing alone.
Except that's not what's happening at all. The guy's blurry picture bore some resemblance to the the euphoria guy so the OP made a joke about him wearing a Sonic the Hedgehog shirt, some people posted pictures of the euphoria guy and were joking about the fact that a guy in a leather jacket and a fedora is stealing from a church, he might have been an atheist or not, people were just making jokes that this guy fit the stereotype pretty exactly at first glance, his asshole actions of stealing from a church making him a much more acceptable target, whether he's smug or not is kind of irrelevant to the fact that he's being mocked for dressing like a smug stereotype while robbing a church. If he wasn't a criminal, and people were just mocking the fedora, you might have a point, but it sounds more like you are just reading too much into people's comments.BathorysGraveland2 said:
By as early as the 4th post, the rest of the thread has derailed into people asking what's up with the fedora hate, and others explaining where the meme came from, with most people just talking about how it came about. There's also a sub-current of people who completely misread the comments and are assuming that commenters in here are siding with the thief, probably misreading the euphoric line in the title as the OP's feelings on the matter rather than it being a reference to the meme.
Beyond that, nobody really cares that much about the fedora, they are just enjoying the weirdness of a guy who looks like the euphoria guy robbing a church, the people coming in asking about "what's with all the fedora hate" are the ones that derailed the conversation to talking about people wearing fedoras wrong or their personal thoughts on a type of hat.
There's been more people in this thread arguing about whether trilbys are a type of fedora, than there have been people actually asserting that this guy is a genuine euphoric atheist stereotype, or just mocking him for wearing a fedora and nothing else (most people seem to be focusing on the thief part). I think you are seeing something that just isn't there.
*tips fedora*TizzytheTormentor said:
thank you for explaining it, hopefully the party poopers can finally join in on the fun, it's hilarious that the guy fits the stereotype to a "T" (as you put it nicely) even down to stealing from a church, not to mention the meme that has already a bunch of built up jokes for it...plus it's fun to mock assholes (the fact that he is robbing from the church proves that point).
wait a second...
this is entirely in jest, so please don't take it seriously like I'm attacking anyone
Just out of curiosity, is there some memetic link between ponies and atheism that I missed, or are people just tossing another 'acceptable target' label on the classic Euphoric Guy image?
If I recall, during r/atheism's "Euphoric" phase, when those guys would photograph themselves wearing trilbies while trying to look sophisticated, MLP merchandise often found its way into the shot, which kind of ruined the effect, so it got added to the stereotype. Of course this is just what I remember from hearsay and don't have an actual source, so don't quote me on that.Suncatcher said:
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Suncatcher said:
Nah, the euphoric meme came before the new MLP stuff really took off (the meme is actually pretty old in internet terms), like the euphoric guy himself, the stereotype started out with Sonic the Hedgehog, although he was the only one I ever saw with it in the picture, I think it just came along for the ride because euphoria guy is essentially the poster child for this particular stereotype.
The MLP connection came later, and usually involved photoshoping ponies into the pictures, like the magazine posted earlier. If I remember right, there was a rumor that it came about when some of the more well known euphoric atheists in r/atheism came out as bronies. Though, like anything from 4chan and the Reddit drama magnets, take that with a massive grain of salt.
It could have also come from the misogyny section as well, r/atheism gets a lot of cross over from boards like r/redpill (I think that's the board where a lot of the more extreme MRA crowd hangs out). Anyway, some of the more extreme MRA people would come out as bronies and attempt to hijack the fandom in the name of men, most of the more gross examples of misogyny from the fandom seems to come from that group that think they are striking a blow against "fake" geek girls moving in on their old mostly male fandoms. The crossover existed before between some atheists and a weird obsession with tearing down feminism as well as religion, so the connection might have been made there.
As with any of this stupid crap though, it's hard to separate fact from fiction, so the whole connection could have just been manufactured by Reddit and 4chan to keep the Euphoria meme relevant, as bronies started to push out Sonic fans as the popular group to try and beat up on. Hell, maybe it's a combination of all of the above, or none.