European Street Protest Against ACTA Draws Over 30,000

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European Street Protest Against ACTA Draws Over 30,000




Over 30,000 young Europeans took to the streets of their capital cities this weekend to protest ACTA, a controversial international copyright agreement.


British government [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement], a "plurilateral treaty that seeks to improve the global enforcement of intellectual property rights" through "common enforcement standards." However, according to Jim Killock, director of the Open Rights Group, the treaty is "setting up dangerous new pressures to censor the internet to remove users and put pressure on [Internet Service Providers] to start policing for copyright." Sound familiar?

ACTA, a globe-spanning treaty with an emphasis on controlling the movements of copyrighted material on the internet in a fashion that has won it the nickname "Europe's SOPA," has drawn the ire of internet users all across the European Union. This weekend, tens of thousands of them took to the streets of cities as diverse as Berlin and Vilnius to protest the proposal in some of the coldest weather the continent has seen for weeks (it was 14 degrees Fahrenheit in Berlin, apparently).

Strictly speaking, ACTA isn't new news - the proposal spent years in the draft process before eight governments, including the United States and Japan, signed ACTA-as-is last October and in doing so gave their agreement to the legislation - but only recently have European politicians started signing up to the scheme. While Germany and France have abstained from adding their names to the roster, the governments of the United Kingdom and others have signed up. The legislation will be debated in the European Parliament in June 2012, supposing any European names are left on ACTA's back pages by then.

This hasn't stopped Europeans from reacting angrily to the notion of ACTA, however. Street protests against the internet-censorship aspects of the treaty kicked off in Poland at the beginning of January and have since spiralled into the multinational, tens-of-thousands-clad-in-Guy-Fawkes-masks events seen this past weekend.

For the most part, protestors are angry at the dispensation ACTA gives for law enforcement agencies to rifle through internet activity records and potentially make sharing bits and pieces of copyrighted material online a criminal offense. "We don't feel safe anymore. The Internet was one of the few places where we could act freely," said Monica Tepelus, a protestor in Bucharest, summing up popular attitudes towards the treaty.

"It's not acceptable to sacrifice the rights of freedom for copyrights," commented Thomas Pfeiffer, a leader of the Munich's Green Party and one of the 25,000 German protestors.

The protestors' outrage is so pointed and the participants so active that the tide does truly seem to be in their favor (the governments of Poland, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia decided to delay their signatures after seeing the level of protest, for example). This is one of the biggest cross-EU protests ever seen and if it can sustain the momentum required for European governments to reconsider their positions, it could become a genuine success story. I love a good standing-on-cars-in-the-snow-shouting-at-lawmakers underdog tale, don't you? More power to them.


Sources: BBC [http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/02/13/us-europe-protest-acta-idUKTRE81A0I120120213]





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Yopaz

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Man, I feel so ashamed that I live in one of those countries that don't seem to care...

Edit: Although I did participate in the protest against watching our internet activity and that didn't do anything. They even pretended they didn't know we were against it when we were standing outside the building where they approved it... I grotesting this time wont help any more than the last time.
 

BehattedWanderer

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Get it! Take it down! With all...30,000? Well that's a start, I guess. Yeah, get it, hit it with sticks!
 

samsonguy920

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I eagerly await when this turns around and bites the corporations in the ass when the governments take it a bit further and ban any copyrighted material over the web. iTunes, for one, would become a ghost town in some countries.
 

Weaver

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Between Sweden, Finland, and Germany, which would be the easiest to emigrate to?
 

iniudan

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AC10 said:
Between Sweden, Finland, and Germany, which would be the easiest to emigrate to?
Would say Germany, but it basically impossible to get citizenship if you don't have a Germanic ancestor you can prove his existence.

Sweden got heavy tax for immigrant, even before you have a job, so better find a job or have saving before moving there.

Finland no idea.
 

Weaver

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iniudan said:
AC10 said:
Between Sweden, Finland, and Germany, which would be the easiest to emigrate to?
Would say Germany, but it basically impossible to get citizenship if you don't have a Germanic ancestor you can prove his existence.

Sweden got heavy tax for immigrant, even before you have a job, so better find a job or have saving before moving there.

Finland no idea.
Huh, actually my Opa is from Germany so that's a plus.
Thanks for the info!
 

Double A

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30k? And 25k are German? That's pretty sad. Only 5k protesters in France, UK, etc.

That just has to be a typo.

AC10 said:
iniudan said:
AC10 said:
Between Sweden, Finland, and Germany, which would be the easiest to emigrate to?
Would say Germany, but it basically impossible to get citizenship if you don't have a Germanic ancestor you can prove his existence.

Sweden got heavy tax for immigrant, even before you have a job, so better find a job or have saving before moving there.

Finland no idea.
Huh, actually my Opa is from Germany so that's a plus.
Thanks for the info!
So is mine, and my mother to boot (though she's half American). It's always nice to have a backup plan if your country goes balls-to-the-wall crazy.
 

Frizzle

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I think that regardless of the issue (and i do think this one is important) it's good that citizens are standing up and making themselves heard to their governments. People should realize that they're important, and without them the governments and corporations would be nothing.

More power to them indeed.
 

Awexsome

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If they want to protest against ACTA they should've done it years ago when their country's respective copyright laws were passed seeing as this does NOTHING but put an international standard on them that the signing countries already hold.

It's intent was to get more problem countries like China on board. SOPA was setting a dangerous precedent but if ACTA sets a dangerous precedent just by having the opportunity to start an international standard on this stuff then how in the world are governments ever supposed to fight piracy individually?

The biggest loophole pirates are moving towards is jurisdiction. I mean look at the Megaupload case how people were crying foul about the U.S.'s jurisdiction when the Megaupload guys were committing those kind of mafia style crimes online so it doesn't matter where the servers are located since they function the exact same if they're in the U.S. or Europe or anywhere else.

An international agreement on this kind of thing is needed because of how international piracy is. No country acting alone will be able to enact any kind of effective tactic without stomping all over freedom of speech.
 

Rainboq

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Canada signed ACTA, ugh, that's what we get for electing the Conservatives who want to be tough on crime without actually FIXING THE PROBLEM of crime. By lessening the social pressures that lead to crime through government programs aimed at those most susceptible. But nope, why not just throw them into an overburdened prison system and see how that goes.
 

Not G. Ivingname

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YES! :D

This is very good news.

We may be able to defeat this one!

Also, why were there some many protests in Germany compared to the rest of Europe? And why do they all appear to be in the Southern part of the country according to the map?
 

Not G. Ivingname

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iniudan said:
AC10 said:
Between Sweden, Finland, and Germany, which would be the easiest to emigrate to?
Would say Germany, but it basically impossible to get citizenship if you don't have a Germanic ancestor you can prove his existence.

Sweden got heavy tax for immigrant, even before you have a job, so better find a job or have saving before moving there.

Finland no idea.
Findland's taxes are very high, mostly to pay off the very extensive social welfare system they have (you can retire at 50), although immigration seams easier than Sweden and Germany.

You also forgot to mention even if you do get full citizenship in Sweden, you STILL have a very heavy tax to tend with.
 

MrTub

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Not G. Ivingname said:
iniudan said:
AC10 said:
Between Sweden, Finland, and Germany, which would be the easiest to emigrate to?
Would say Germany, but it basically impossible to get citizenship if you don't have a Germanic ancestor you can prove his existence.

Sweden got heavy tax for immigrant, even before you have a job, so better find a job or have saving before moving there.

Finland no idea.
Findland's taxes are very high, mostly to pay off the very extensive social welfare system they have (you can retire at 50), although immigration seams easier than Sweden and Germany.

You also forgot to mention even if you do get full citizenship in Sweden, you STILL have a very heavy tax to tend with.
The bonus with sweden is that you can go to norway & denmark and finland and speak swedish and they will understand you and they will get annoyed that you will not understand them :)

The swedish tax is: [http://www.taxrates.cc/html/sweden-tax-rates.html]
Sweden
Income Tax Rate 57.77%

Sweden
Corporate Tax Rate 26.3%

Sweden
VAT Rate 25%

Finlands tax is: [http://www.taxrates.cc/html/finland-tax-rates.html]

Finland
Income Tax Rate 51%

Finland
Corporate Tax Rate 26%

Finland
Sales Tax / VAT Rate 23%
 

BlackStar42

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Well, it finally happened- Germany is apparently going to be the ones to save Europe this time. I'm royally pissed at the UK media for not reporting this AT ALL though. Seriously, AFAIK ACTA could pass into law tomorrow and the average Briton wouldn't know about it all.
 

Terminate421

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I love how Obama signed the thing saying he wouldn't.

Is there a way to take back the agreement?
 

UnderGlass

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Good to see people care enough about these sorts of veiled threats to get really engaged. Despite all the other rather preoccupying stuff happening in Europe right now.

My favourite image was this