HahahaAlterego-X said:
You can't be serious. :\
OT: Nice to see EU parliament doing something useful again. Lately they've been getting nothing but bad press for the whole Euro-Greece-Spain thing.
European Union Rejects ACTA
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You can't be serious. :\
OT: Nice to see EU parliament doing something useful again. Lately they've been getting nothing but bad press for the whole Euro-Greece-Spain thing.
What a decidedly neutral article. Beside writing Söderström without umlauts the other day, Chalk is swiftly becoming my favourite writer on the Escapist.
What is it with this separatism? It's like you want the UK to become a political pariah.Trivun said:Now, don't get me wrong here, I still loathe the UK membership of the EU. But, it seems that on rare occasions, it can be a good thing. Congrats, EU. Well done for actually seeing sense, for once...
Well, let's be fair, the EU can't really do anything about that. It's Germany that's been dragging its feet. (Not that the UK is entirely blameless, with PM Cameron being so pro austerity.)Thedutchjelle said:
Irelands economy is finally strong again.Ed. said:There is the small matter of trampling democracy when its inconvenient see Ireland having to vote 'correctly' the second time and Italy and Greece having their presidents 'nudged'blueb0g said:Daily Mail reader? The UK has seen nothing but benefits from being in the EU... The single currency isn't working out great for them at the moment, but, I need hardly remind you, we're not part of it, and our economy would be in much, much worse shape were we not a member... Ever wondered why ALL of the major parties support membership? Because it would be economic suicide to leave the union. Also, don't forget the amount of benefits we get from the US-UK "special relationship" - a relationship that is built, in no small part, by a desire of the US to have a close friend in on EU proceedings.Trivun said:Now, don't get me wrong here, I still loathe the UK membership of the EU. But, it seems that on rare occasions, it can be a good thing. Congrats, EU. Well done for actually seeing sense, for once...
The common market is the thing that helps our economy almost everything els is a disaster with he notable exception of digital policy and thankfully the auditor so at least we know how screwed up everything els is.
It could be a really good thing but has a long way to go.
Italy and greece's presidents were as corrupt as they get. Everyone who had a higher education in those countries was leaving them. Because, ya know it was the smart thing to do. If you look at the financial crisis that those countries are having they weren't wrong. The EU has some good stuff and some bad stuff. In my opinion the worst thing they have done is the euro. The first thing that greece should have done is inflation. But they couldn't because they are stuck with the euro.
Those are my two cents, feel free to disagree
. I'd like to have a civil discussion if at all possible.Germany is doing what is best for germany. Can't fault that logic. The EU is not a country. In the end everyone in the EU is still out for his own interests. That's why they should never have implemented the euro. And it's greece and spains own god damn fault. In spain a large portion of their economy was based on building infrastructure. Not on exporting goods (which is how a country makes his money in the most basic sense). My brothers girlfriend is from spain. She still lives there now and even she says it is their own fault. The Spaniards don't really have a strong work ethic either (again, her words).Farther than stars said:
And greece, don't even get me started. 20 years ago they we're all farming goats and now 1/20 cars is a friggin porsche. Nuff said.
Yeah got to agree with this guy here, the EU joining would be terrible and it would never happen. On the topic though, it makes me smile that the EU does this, it shows they have a lot of sense.Thedutchjelle said:
Has anyone read the bill or is everyone just reading others opinion of what the bill is? Where can I get a copy of the bill that was rejected?