If you don't mind watching things out of order and you didn't mind SAO but didn't like what they did to Asuna in the second half of the first season then I'd suggest looking at episodes 18-24 of the season 2 (the Mother's Rosario arc). The arc largely centres around Asuna and a group of new characters and is significantly better about her character than what they did to her in arc 2 of season 1.Lilani said:I never went on to watch the second season of Sword Art Online. The end of the first season got too...rapey for me. It wasn't just the last episode with the final showdown, it was everything in the second half of the season. Asuna being sidelined into a helpless maguffin, the tentacle-covered lab assistant avatars groping her when she tries to escape...it was all just so out of place given what the first half of the series set up.
Agree. That was a stupid way to deal with the culture shock of the Arabian fables arriving in modern New York. It seemed forced, and even worse, a missed opportunity to reflect on the euro fables own adjustment to the mundy world. Surely there were cautionary tales to tell of euro fables who were unable or unwilling to compromise their nature in order to fit in, and either had to be killed or went out with with a bang. Would have given the euro fables more dept as well to admit they are capable of elitism, hypocrisy and selective memory, or perhaps delusion in believing they have adopted modern ethics by merit, not because they had no choice.TravelerSF said:I had to stop reading Fables (the comic book series The Wolf Among Us is based on) because it became INSANELY RACIST.
Fair enough. And I know they're just representing the Arabian fables, I just explained that really poorly.inu-kun said:To try to defend it, they don't really represent arabs, but rather arabian stories, so it's kinda obvious they are stereotypes. The people from the empire are just as much stereotypes of middle ages europe.TravelerSF said:I had to stop reading Fables (the comic book series The Wolf Among Us is based on) because it became INSANELY RACIST.
This happened around the time they were introducing Arabian fables, who cruise to Fabletown with their car full of slavegirls and spend essentially their entire visit looking down on the "infidels". I kid you not, they used that word like it was the freacking comma. The one decent guy was essentially and exception, everyone else was a cartoon stereotype.
Granted, there are a lot of Arabian countries which by western standards aren't really... treating people properly, but you can have morally bankrupt characters and still make them feel human. I mean there's plenty of western Fables in the comics who we're supposed to be rooting for who are just like that. Actually many of the heroes in the story are straight up murderers, yet slavery is apparently something they're absolutely disgusted by. And the western characters originate from medieval Europe or earlier, not exactly the cradle of equality and human rights. So why are they so modernized and the Arabians still live in the past?
There's also the fact that this wasn't an Arabian country. These characters represented every single Arabian person inside the Homelands. So I think the writer should think more carefully about how they choose to represent the entire Arabian civilization .
And the fables are living for centuries in out world, the morals of today inevitably sink in for them, so they react just as anyone will react today to misogynistic slavers (oh my god I used the word unironically! I'M INFECTED!).
I kinda dig the writer for being so blunt rather than using silk gloves to not dare offend anyone.
Oh my god yes, this. The finale of...season 2 I think? Had so many cliche things to it, it drove me nuts.Abomination said:The diet coke drama of Arrow during the First/Second season put me off watching it. Apparently it's gotten over that but I've yet to have the motivation to pick it up again.
I stopped reading that series after a while as well.Grant Stackhouse said:I gave up reading the "Sword of Truth" novels sometime late in high school. After a while, it stopped feeling like a fantastical adventure and more like a thinly veiled rant against socialism.
Holy crap. You're totally right about Bleach.insaninater said:I stopped watching dexter because it became too repetitive
I stopped watching SAO because it became way too... Lots of things, too devoid, downright murderous, of any actual narritive weight. Too much "bad anime fluff", that is to say, too many of the elements that you generally find in bad anime (E.G. the awkward, rapey, half-sex stuff), and that's a shame, because it all started off very strong, a familiar story, but with enough potential to be it's own thing and be good.
I stopped watching bleach after orihime got captured, because they literally JUST did the "female character gets captured and taken to an unfamiliar dimension we've heard of but never been too and the heroes go to save her while drama among the warriors of the realm ensues and the true power of the kidnapped girl is attempted to be extracted by the evil mastermind who kidnapped her" thing. I mean i can deal with a BIT of repetition, but i mean shit, they literally copy-pasted the plot they just did and ran it again. Talk about lazy.
I'm certainly not going to jump on you for not liking a show as much as I did, Although I kind of like Cowboy Bebop more as a kind of collection of short stories rather then one long running story, kind of like Sherlock Holmes. I certainly had times where I could avoid it, but some of those short stories had a lot of fun moments that made the show for me.Saltyk said:Shhh. People love that show. You can't speak ill of it.Laggyteabag said:I gave up on Cowboy Bebop because it was too disjointed. I like my plots to actually have, well, a plot. I was more than half way into the show and I still had no idea what they were trying to do or achieve. To me, it was an entire series comprised of filler episodes with no continuity other than characters returning. Utterly disappointing.
Truth be told, I found it over rated myself. Like you said, it felt like 99% of the show was filler. Yes, there were some great episodes, but even some of the character's abilities felt inconsistent. I swear some episodes Spike was the biggest bad ass of all and in others he was a joke.