Every human has a darker, more primal side.
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It's hard to say honestly, if I have more of a primal side it most likely up lies to sexuality.
If I ever do something immoral I do it because of pure interest, or I'm really pissed off.
I have a dark side and a primal side, but I doubt it's one side, if I to do something really immoral id have to think it out.
If I ever do something immoral I do it because of pure interest, or I'm really pissed off.
I have a dark side and a primal side, but I doubt it's one side, if I to do something really immoral id have to think it out.
deep in our souls? ***** please, mine hangs out in the front room like a split personality.
im actually worried. i wouldnt go that far dude, even i would refer you to a psychiatrist.
i'm more of a dark alley throat-slitter.
plus one of my possible alters is an indie-rock sketch artist, and ragey is blacked out getting buttfucked by my gay conscience.
im actually worried. i wouldnt go that far dude, even i would refer you to a psychiatrist.
i'm more of a dark alley throat-slitter.
plus one of my possible alters is an indie-rock sketch artist, and ragey is blacked out getting buttfucked by my gay conscience.
Steaming from my materialistic side I would kinda of like to put thiefs and burglurs on crosses(like jesus), not to the death mind you but a day or two for them to think about thier crimes and worse comes to worse even if they dont reform the severe tendon damage and the thief brand on there forhead will do just fine for prevention.
Same for dog fighters but they can hang there till death f**k em.
Same for dog fighters but they can hang there till death f**k em.
Indeed this is true. My "Dark Side" has gotten the best of me 2-3 times... the first time I ran away from home and pretended I was dead for 2 days (I was 13 or something), the second time was not long ago, when I started sending everyone to Hell, which didn't seem to turn out quite well, because after it all ended from 6-7 friend I was left with only 1, and the third time was last summer when I desided that all summer I was going to be a retard and I was dating 5 girls at the same time. The third time actually ended quite well, I almost lost a close friend, but I managed to get her to forgive me, so we're ok now. I just ended up feeling REALLY guilty after the third time.
Truth be told from a few days I got a really nice reason to be Mr. "Sunshine" again and I'm feeling a bit darkishly-angry and retarded... anyone know how to prevent a personal dark-outbreak?
Truth be told from a few days I got a really nice reason to be Mr. "Sunshine" again and I'm feeling a bit darkishly-angry and retarded... anyone know how to prevent a personal dark-outbreak?
What I have thought about a lot is, hang someone from his feet on the ceiling, slice open his arteries in his thighs and lower him into a bathtub that slowly fills with his own blood while I use him as a punching bag. He either dies from blood loss or drowns in his own blood. Though the latter sounds more disgusting and fun to watch.
Goes for me as well.aegix drakan said:
I can't really comprehend why anyone would willingly torture another person just for amusement sake, to me that is just some really sick stuff.
I haven't had this "primal side" overcome me, if it even exists. And that's my biggest issue with the OP, because if anything, I have seen the primal side of an individual be used more for altruistic purposes than selfish purposes. I have seen injured dogs, and people who would consciously not help a dog, be overcome with guilt or something like that, devote their time and sometimes money into treating this dog. They have no relation to it, they don't know how it is, it could even attack them, but when they see an injured animal down on the ground, they help it. I don't know anyone that would even inherently or biologically want to kill it and eat it on the spot. Homeless people are another example, we see the downtrodden and some of us will naturally want to help them, though some of us may have different values on that. That's an iffier topic, a very interesting one really. Some of us may view humanity as more capable than other animals and thus perceive the homeless as less worthy of being helped, because they have a higher capacity to survive. But that's more of a logical conclusion rather than a biological one, so that's not the point.
The point is, instinctively, sometimes it's survival of the fittest, but when it isn't and we are faced with a creature in front of us, human or non human, that is in pain and at that point, weaker than us - we are instinctively thinking not just about ourselves, but about the species as a whole. We have companion animals, we have other humans, we have symbiotic relationships to consider here. Why should we sacrifice these things? It makes it harder for us to live. We are programmed, biologically, not to do the things that the OP said we COULD do, biologically. Our assigning values and making choices is nothing that society taught us, we were born with a moral code. To violate that code is literally violating your own survival instinct.
The point is, instinctively, sometimes it's survival of the fittest, but when it isn't and we are faced with a creature in front of us, human or non human, that is in pain and at that point, weaker than us - we are instinctively thinking not just about ourselves, but about the species as a whole. We have companion animals, we have other humans, we have symbiotic relationships to consider here. Why should we sacrifice these things? It makes it harder for us to live. We are programmed, biologically, not to do the things that the OP said we COULD do, biologically. Our assigning values and making choices is nothing that society taught us, we were born with a moral code. To violate that code is literally violating your own survival instinct.
My dark primal side has a tendency to make my victims suffer.
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True.retyopy said:
Not true. Umm with the right conditions set in place; anger, wrath, lack of consequence; yes someone might take that opportunity, but you make it sound as though lack of consequence is all that's needed.retyopy said:
If someone told me I could go out and murder people right now with no consequence there's no way I'd do it. I'd need a year or two of being absolutely consumed with rage before I jump at the chance.
You have that the wrong way around. The fact that you felt sickened with yourself means you wouldn't do it. Everyone, and I mean everyone, has sick thoughts like that, but if it makes you feel bad then that's a good sign, you're perfectly sane! On the other hand if you think these things and your response is "ha that sounds like a laugh" then it's a bit more worryingretyopy said:
That is indeed a very interesting thought, but I think youre being overly dramatic, and that youre saying this just because of the illusion of enlightenment you feel when you think youve uncovered something huge that applies to all of us, when it really is quite simple if you look past the blinding light that caught your attention. I think it's a lot simpler than that. It's just a flashlight, so to speak. Just calm down and look at it objectively. It's like looking at the huge headlines about a terrorist attack and missing everything else in the newspaper, and then concluding that the world is a horrible place and nothing good ever happens.retyopy said:
Bear in mind, this is my personal opinion.
A kind person is not kind because that's the one side he shows to the world, he's kind because that's the dominating trait of his personality. He doesnt have a "dark side" that's just waiting to show up or express itself. A kind person would not leap at the chance to torture somebody. That is why he is kind. A personality is not made up of sides, but a ton of differenct aspects and bits and pieces. A murderer does not commit his crime because of an overbearing side of his personality, it all comes together to justify his deed in his own head. That, or he has an actual need to kill others. But would that mean that everyone has that? Everyone is not a murderer, and to be more precise: like the second murderer I mentioned.
Now, it might just be that your choice of words bothered me. "Side" is really a "word too far" and an overly dramatic one to be fair, dont you think? Also, you made a few errors in your logic: First you state that each and every one of us has a part that makes us want to torture or kill, right? But then you conclude that each and everyone of us yearns for the screams of our fellow man, that somehow that little part would be that powerful. (correct me if I misunderstood, please.) That doesnt make a lot of sense, does it? Of course, we all have a breaking point where we will snap if pushed over it. But a hidden, universal need for sadism? I find that incredibly hard to believe.
If I had to agree with you, I would still not agree with your way of putting it: Again, overly dramatic. A person might feel some satisfaction from bullying someone or abusing his power by, say, making his assistent fetch him something trivial just because he'll fire him if he doesnt obey. However, that person might not feel satisfied after cutting up said assistent with a razor, whereas someone in the world might. Does the boss yearn for the screams of his fellow man? Do you really want to be that black and white about it? I dont think it is that easy.
What I would agree to, though, is the thought that we all have anger within us: Because it is an emotion. So is love. So is happiness. So is remorse. So is regret. It just stands to reason, doesnt it: We all feel. Some of us have an easier time laughing, some of us have a harder time doing it. Some of us cry a lot, some dont. Some of us kill, most of us dont. Just because some of us do it, does not mean all of us have a need to do it, or a hidden desire to do it. "Somewhere, no matter how deep, would leap at the chance.." That logic would work for having sex with your family, (Freud would be proud) giving everything you have to charity, killing yourself, renaming yourself "Cock McBalls"... Ok, maybe not that last one, but you get the picture, dont you?
That's what this is about, really. Seeing the whole picture.
Now, doesnt the whole thing sound a bit silly in retrospect? I think so, but it's okay if you dont. It's your opinion, of course, and it might only even be a thought, a temporary one. Opinions are prone to change or mature, I know this from personal experience with my own. Youre talking to a man who once thought himself infallible, but then experienced something that made him smell his own bullshit, made him humble and made him lose his excessive pride, and thank god for that. (not literally, I didnt turn christian. I am not proud of who I used to be, but I think I got better.) Now I dont hold on to my opinions just because they are that: my opinions.
(Sorry bout the wall of text, hrm.)
EDIT: Also, to the people saying "My dark side got the best of me"? Come on, you were either in a fit, or your emotions were so strong at that moment that you acted the way you did. It's not like it's a repressed part of you that just takes over, your emotions just affect your choices in the moment. A happy person is more likely to smile back than an angry one, so to speak. The happy side does not take over to make you smile, does it?
I know it's mainly terminology, but it's indirectly taking the responsibility away from yourselves, which is just silly. I order this thread not to become silly again. Please?
You're an interesting person. So, I'd probably go berserk on everyone I saw on the streets. Not as dark and twisted as everybody else but smashing skulls and breaking things gets the job done. I'm a very simple person. Either I'm not violent or I am... :| I feel dumb now.
