Evolve Will Have Lots of DLC

[Rozalia1]

So people who dont like their games being taken apart and sold in peaces for more profit os a minority not even worth thinking about?

And yes, gutting your game to sell it for more later is bad practice.

There is no reason to take neutral standpoint (not like you do that either).

When they can in no way negatively effect your income yes. Loss of their "sales" (quotations because such people are unreliable from the get go, they either won't buy your game anyway...or will whatever you do), does not overtake the value of all the extra money you're making.

Makes more money, people don't care. Small minorities don't change that.

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Slander! (and here I state this is in no way aggressive because of an exclamation point, because such things need to be said apparently).
In what way is my view not neutral when I can accept why things are done, while you want companies to spite themselves for seemingly your own amusement.
Company's aim is to make money, you want them to throw away means of making money for what? Morals? Art? Can you feed worker's families, and pay your shareholders with that? Nowhere in business do they do such things, they squeeze people dry everywhere unless of course in the cases of good government business/regulation, but no use going into to that.

All in all I can take issue with energy companies, rail companies, and the like squeezing people to make every penny. After all those companies shouldn't even exist in the first place...but gaming companies? Come now.

 

[Strazdas]

When they can in no way negatively effect your income yes. Loss of their "sales" (quotations because such people are unreliable from the get go, they either won't buy your game anyway...or will whatever you do), does not overtake the value of all the extra money you're making.

Makes more money, people don't care. Small minorities don't change that.

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Slander! (and here I state this is in no way aggressive because of an exclamation point, because such things need to be said apparently).
In what way is my view not neutral when I can accept why things are done, while you want companies to spite themselves for seemingly your own amusement.
Company's aim is to make money, you want them to throw away means of making money for what? Morals? Art? Can you feed worker's families, and pay your shareholders with that? Nowhere in business do they do such things, they squeeze people dry everywhere unless of course in the cases of good government business/regulation, but no use going into to that.

All in all I can take issue with energy companies, rail companies, and the like squeezing people to make every penny. After all those companies shouldn't even exist in the first place...but gaming companies? Come now.

Profit is the ultimate goal of a company, but not of humanity. Yes, they will not care as long as they can make profit, which is why this is where we should hit them. Hence my original comment about me not buying the game.

By taking position of the company (they only need to make money, your opinion is irrelevant minority, ect) you take sides in the conversation and stop being neutral.

 

[Rozalia1]

Profit is the ultimate goal of a company, but not of humanity. Yes, they will not care as long as they can make profit, which is why this is where we should hit them. Hence my original comment about me not buying the game.

By taking position of the company (they only need to make money, your opinion is irrelevant minority, ect) you take sides in the conversation and stop being neutral.

But you won't, as a singular entity you can affect nothing. There is not such a large group behind you, thus its irrelevant whatever stand you decide to take. Things you abhor make more money, losing your business is thus irrelevant.

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No sides honest, I'm honest Roz. Merely telling you how things are, and why your claims of it being bad, or them being wrong are incorrect. Only in a clearly biased world view can they be such things, and I'd not have to "take the side" of business if people in threads such as this weren't such marks for themselves.
I'm as left wing as it gets, but the bias is simply too strong that I have to bring good sense to such things.

 

[Strazdas]

But you won't, as a singular entity you can affect nothing. There is not such a large group behind you, thus its irrelevant whatever stand you decide to take. Things you abhor make more money, losing your business is thus irrelevant.

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No sides honest, I'm honest Roz. Merely telling you how things are, and why your claims of it being bad, or them being wrong are incorrect. Only in a clearly biased world view can they be such things, and I'd not have to "take the side" of business if people in threads such as this weren't such marks for themselves.
I'm as left wing as it gets, but the bias is simply too strong that I have to bring good sense to such things.

As a singular entity my weight is very small, however any mass of people is made up out of single entities working together. If everyone who did not like DLCs would do it, it would not be a group they can ignore. I believe in leading by example, and thus i do myself what i want others to do.

You dont understand how taking sides work. im not here to be your teacher.
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Wait, are you going around calling people marks again? and "marks for themselves"? how does that even work?

 

[Reaper195]

The more I hear about this game, the less I want to have anything to do with it. Exclusively focused on multiplayer, no story (Both of which killed my interest in left 4 Dead pretty damn quickly), dlc focused, enough content o keep me interested for a couple of hours since I get incredibly bored simply playing with other people online quickly, etc. I would have slightly less of a problm with this, since each to their own, but too many games are coming out like this. Destiny sounded cool until they gave out more details which made it sound a bit too much like an MMO. Which BUngie were all "No, it's not one.". Except the more details they give out, the more it sounds like exactly that. The Division was cool until it turned out to be exactly the same.

 

[Rozalia1]

As a singular entity my weight is very small, however any mass of people is made up out of single entities working together. If everyone who did not like DLCs would do it, it would not be a group they can ignore. I believe in leading by example, and thus i do myself what i want others to do.

You dont understand how taking sides work. im not here to be your teacher.
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Wait, are you going around calling people marks again? and "marks for themselves"? how does that even work?

Which is still minuscule. Won't happen, they know it, I know it, you know it.

No lesson required as I know bringing sense to things isn't taking a side.

Honest question? Being a mark for yourself is very common amongst people...I think there is a fundamental misunderstanding in the conclusions you draw from my posts if that is such a conundrum to you.
I'm not going to "ortonize" it for you here as that'll just be me getting another warning and I'd rather not. Message me on what exactly you want explained if you're genuinely interested.

 

[Nurb]

Why is an independent trying so hard to be hated? This is an EA level dick move

"Fuck you, pay me!" is all they're saying here. They know because it's an online game, they can force all the DLC they want.

Before I just didn't care about the game, but now, because of this and the way they made it with a big middle finger to customers, not buying it isn't enough. I want the game to fail in the worst way. Them going bankrupt would be an added bonus.

 

[Strazdas]

Honest question? Being a mark for yourself is very common amongst people...I think there is a fundamental misunderstanding in the conclusions you draw from my posts if that is such a conundrum to you.
I'm not going to "ortonize" it for you here as that'll just be me getting another warning and I'd rather not. Message me on what exactly you want explained if you're genuinely interested.

Yes, i honestly want to know why are you calling people marks (and sometimes shills). Whether it be a different understanding of the word, attempt to insult under the radar or a Confidence trick [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick] reference. Because right now it looks like your simply insulting people.

 

[Rozalia1]

Yes, i honestly want to know why are you calling people marks (and sometimes shills). Whether it be a different understanding of the word, attempt to insult under the radar or a Confidence trick [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick] reference. Because right now it looks like your simply insulting people.

Now you're just being dishonest. I've not lobbed "shill" at anyone here on the escapist ever, and no people in news articles aren't escapist members if that is what you're going to start referencing.
Besides I have nothing against shills as we've gone into time and time again, so if you are trying to imply I've been insulting people with that...well it doesn't really fit does it?
Its a little odd that you and the rest get to fling shill at whoever you like without question, yet when I state that a guy is shilling that crowd starts coming down on me for it...me thinks there is some favoritism going on there in regards to certain developers...but again people make their own life choices.

Why don't you tell me how you think I'm using it first. There is enough clues in other words I've used to tell you, so I can only assume you just aren't familiar with that nomenclature to begin with.

 

[Ticklefist]

And they were already paddling upstream without the Valve label to carry their boring game.

 

[Strazdas]

Yes, i honestly want to know why are you calling people marks (and sometimes shills). Whether it be a different understanding of the word, attempt to insult under the radar or a Confidence trick [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick] reference. Because right now it looks like your simply insulting people.

Now you're just being dishonest. I've not lobbed "shill" at anyone here on the escapist ever, and no people in news articles aren't escapist members if that is what you're going to start referencing.
Besides I have nothing against shills as we've gone into time and time again, so if you are trying to imply I've been insulting people with that...well it doesn't really fit does it?
Its a little odd that you and the rest get to fling shill at whoever you like without question, yet when I state that a guy is shilling that crowd starts coming down on me for it...me thinks there is some favoritism going on there in regards to certain developers...but again people make their own life choices.

Why don't you tell me how you think I'm using it first. There is enough clues in other words I've used to tell you, so I can only assume you just aren't familiar with that nomenclature to begin with.

You did not answer why are you calling people marks and sidetracked the whole reply. Please reply to the original question.

I think you are using it incorrectly by believing in a different definition of the word.