cleverlymadeup said:
vfaulkon said:
Their case of libel is troubling. In truth, both of those definitions are troubling, because of how they conflict on a basic level with free speech. I'm not promoting blatant and groundless defamation of anyone or anything, but...what, we can say whatever we want about anyone, as long as it isn't bad? That should fall on the grounds of proper manners, not LAW. I'm hoping there's some kind of Fair Use-esque law to protect bloggers and legitimate media, or else a lot of bloggers are in for a world of hurt...anyone have info on that? It would be appreciated if you could share it.
not really libel does NOT contravene free speech, it's part of the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. if someone is spread out right lies about you, how can you really live a happy life, depending on what they say you really can't
put it this way if someone went around saying you like to fondle young boys, you wouldn't like it too much. now a few people would think it was totally false, however there would be a few people that would think it's true and treat you differently and that would also have an outcome on your personal life.
it really sucks that people have to resort to legal resolutions for this but this is what it's come to because frankly people are jerks
Not entirely a bad point - I know that even baseless accusations can do some damage - but free speech doesn't just protect the good guys. If, say, you wanted to go around saying that very thing about me, you bet your ass I'd refute it, deny it, demand proof...but I wouldn't SUE you. Legally, you have the right to say that. Hell, you have the right to say I'm a necrophiliac Neo-nazi that bathes in baby blood if you wanted.
Besides, think about this - technically speaking, a large number of Youtube comments could constitute a case of libel under these conditions, especially with the racist, homophobic, 100% flame-spreading troll posts you can find on a daily basis. Now imagine how many court rooms across the country, perhaps across the world, would be filled with a pair of bickering dumbasses who made some hateful comment under a music video, claiming 'slander' and 'libel' back and forth. We're not even talking about cases worthy of Judge Judy. And all of that sucking up valuable time and money from the legal process and the taxpayers, knowing some psychotic murderer's court date is waiting behind MCR_rulz_j00's lawsuit.
I don't care how popular suing people is in America. Litigation is an extreme step and should be reserved for serious, truly dangerous situations. If someone sees a post they disagree with, they should ask for proof of their claim before pushing the 'lawsuit' button. This simple, neutral response will weed out the baseless conjecture from the real evidence
for all to see.
Oh, and next time, skip the 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness' bit. It's a weak and clichéd argument. Besides, if you wanna talk about the American dream, how about the liberty of 'freedom of speech'? How about Evony pulling their heads out of their asses, checking with their lawyers on the past failures of similar cases, and not trying to drag one blogger's livelihood down into the dirt?