Ex-Bronydom

[The Ubermensch]

MLP fans who aren't bronies would be anyone in the show's target age demographic (3-9), women, Hasbro employees, and people without an ego in need of constant validation.

I loled because its true. Why do we need to go into every single forum and make it about mother fucking ponies!?! Yes they are awesome but not everyone is ready. Oh, and no one wants to hear about your sexual fetishes. The BDSM scene is underground, the clopping scene should also be underground.

But no, some one has to go around and justify their fetish... NO ONE ELSE DOES THAT!!! Feet guys? nope. Scat guys? nope. The only guys that do are furries, and for the most part they've stopped doing that.

I'm making Neon Genesis Evangelion compulsory viewing for all Bronys so they know when I say "Why are you jacking off over a comatose girl?" they'll understand what I'm saying.

When some random comes into your forum and attempts to evoke a response then by all means (but don't feed the troll). But its not ok for us to go into other forums and say "Well how come you treat these guys nicely but you're dicks to us?".

 

[Saviordd1]

People talk about this like it's a huge deal. It really, really isn't.

This.
Bronies have furry syndrome, where they think everyone gives a crap about what they do and believe.

We don't, go watch your show, we really don't care.

You certainly like to paint with broad brushes, don't you?
Making sweeping generalisations about not one but two communitiesAlthough the definition of what precisely constitutes a member of either community is rather vague.
That's especially true for the latter. It apparently encompasses a plethora of possibly contradicting interests. And their only common feature appears to be the anthropomorphisation of animals to such varying degrees that it barely qualifies as a single community. in a single sentence is quite impressive.

And I'm glad you let us know how much you don't care. You even emphasised your utter apathy by going out of your way to post in this thread.

Oh and lest I imply something I didn't intend to; I actually concur with the assessment that MLP is by no means a huge deal in the grand scheme of things.

Considering every brony I know in real life loves to beat people over the head with their bronydom its a well founded generalization.

 

[C. Cain]

Considering every brony I know in real life loves to beat people over the head with their bronydom its a well founded generalization.

You might want to familiarise yourself with these concepts - listed here for your viewing pleasure:

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Anecdotal.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Spotlight.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/HastyGeneralisation.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Composition.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Jumping.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/ConfirmationBias.jpg

Please keep in mind that this list is most likely not comprehensive.

 

[The Ubermensch]

Considering every brony I know in real life loves to beat people over the head with their bronydom its a well founded generalization.

You might want to familiarise yourself with these concepts - listed here for your viewing pleasure:

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Anecdotal.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Spotlight.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/HastyGeneralisation.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Composition.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Jumping.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/ConfirmationBias.jpg

Please keep in mind that this list is most likely not comprehensive.

There is also the denial of a problem. We as a community do have a problem, its a problem that we share with the rest of humanity but it is still a problem. Even if this problem doesn't literally exist it exists in the social psyche and needs to be addressed. The "Vocal Minority" do have a way of memetic imprinting on the greater social consensus.

Or rather... Bronys, we need less butthurt and to adhere to our original doctrine.

 

[C. Cain]

There is also the denial of a problem. We as a community do have a problem, its a problem that we share with the rest of humanity but it is still a problem. Even if this problem doesn't literally exist it exists in the social psyche and needs to be addressed. The "Vocal Minority" do have a way of memetic imprinting on the greater social consensus.

Or rather... Bronys, we need less butthurt and to adhere to our original doctrine.

Oh, I'm not denying the problem - but I do think that it's impossible to address properly.
I readily concede that these members are, much to my dismay, harmful to the group's image as a whole. And while I can't change the fact that every movement, once big enough, gains such a vocal minority, I can still point out the logical and rhetorical fallacies of those who lump me in with the more unsavoury types out there.

 

[theblindedhunter]

I never have considered myself a brony (even though I think the show is brilliantly done and am up to date with the episodes) for the same reason I don't consider myself part of any fandom ever. I'm really just not that dedicated to anything. The show is good, and I'd argue with someone about it the same way I think Portal is good (well, great), and would argue with someone who thought differently. Not a "oh my goodness you should die" sort of argue, a "let me tell you things you may not have considered, and tell me things I might not have either" sort.
Some people get much more invested in these things, for whatever reason. And certainly there are emotional attachments to characters that make things more similar to a powderkeg than they would have been. I've never quite understood it, but I think that there really is nothing much worse about bronies than any other fandom - they just have the light turned on them brighter than most, and those who get that light often react in that way, no matter what fandom they are in. (Or, rather, certain members, forming a minority of the fandom do, not everyone in it.)

 

[Saviordd1]

Considering every brony I know in real life loves to beat people over the head with their bronydom its a well founded generalization.

You might want to familiarise yourself with these concepts - listed here for your viewing pleasure:

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Anecdotal.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Spotlight.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/HastyGeneralisation.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Composition.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Jumping.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/ConfirmationBias.jpg

Please keep in mind that this list is most likely not comprehensive.

Uh huh, well considering I'm not trying to get my ideas published I'll run by my conclusion.
The majority of the Bronies that impact ME as a person never let it go, as such I think bronies need to get over themselves.

I honestly don't care whether that's a generalization, you have a problem with it, fix your fellow fans, they're giving you a bad name.

 

[C. Cain]

Uh huh, well considering I'm not trying to get my ideas published I'll run by my conclusion.
The majority of the Bronies that impact ME as a person never let it go, as such I think bronies need to get over themselves.

I honestly don't care whether that's a generalization, you have a problem with it, fix your fellow fans, they're giving you a bad name.

Do you even read what you're typing? Did it ever occur to you that you are essentially espousing the textbook definition of bigotry? And with a certain amount of pride, no less. It almost boggles the mind - were it not for the fact that this is the internet.

 

[Shadowstar38]

Uh huh, well considering I'm not trying to get my ideas published I'll run by my conclusion.
The majority of the Bronies that impact ME as a person never let it go, as such I think bronies need to get over themselves.

I honestly don't care whether that's a generalization, you have a problem with it, fix your fellow fans, they're giving you a bad name.

Do I even need to count the ways this makes no sense?

The "bronies" that you know are causing you a problem, so all bronies need to get over themselves? That's not just a generalization, it's a lapse in logic.

Fix the fellow fans? Yeah, because we can all control who calls themselves a part of a group. And we can also control what they do on the internet once they get it in their head they're part of the fanbase. I think not.

 

[Techno Squidgy]

Some of the bile and hatred I've seen coming from the brony community is more than enough to blow that claim straight out of the water.

Guess you missed the part where I said "on the whole." But whatever.

My experience with the majority of the brony community has been negative. So yeah, to me "on the whole" it's a very negative community with small pockets of genuine niceness.

 

[Xaio30]

People become bronies on an individual level. I don't feel judged by what other bronies do and neither should I.
Rather, I will remain a brony until I do not enjoy the show anymore.

I have met wonderful and friendly people in real life who have taken care of me due to our shared enjoyment of candy-colored ponies, so I have no doubt that this fandom can bring good to others.

 

[Shadowstar38]

Some of the bile and hatred I've seen coming from the brony community is more than enough to blow that claim straight out of the water.

Guess you missed the part where I said "on the whole." But whatever.

My experience with the majority of the brony community has been negative. So yeah, to me "on the whole" it's a very negative community with small pockets of genuine niceness.

Everyone experiences it differently I guess. I was just lucky enough to see the good side most of the time.

 

[Saviordd1]

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Eh maybe it is, maybe it isn't; couldn't care less.
When you have a majority screaming the same thing at you what are you supposed to think?
Considering every brony, on the internet, and in my life, that I have interacted with acts the same way why SHOULD I change my opinion? I've had no one challenge my ideas on bronies before so why should I? (This incident is the single exception)

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See above

 

[Shadowstar38]

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Eh maybe it is, maybe it isn't; couldn't care less.
When you have a majority screaming the same thing at you what are you supposed to think?
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Majority

The people you have interacted with are what's known as the VOCAL MINORITY of the fanbase. Sorry you had it so rough, and keep going to bullshit websites that have the worst of each fandom in it but, seriously, half of the thing I'm reading here make no sense. Just...period.

 

[Saviordd1]

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The the minority is SOMEHOW bigger than the majority.
I honestly think that the Brony fanbase is majorly the ones I describe, and the ones like you are the minority; there's a difference between vocal minority (See Tea Party) and the minority trying to cover up the majority.

 

[C. Cain]

When you have a majority screaming the same thing at you what are you supposed to think?
Considering every brony, on the internet, and in my life, that I have interacted with acts the same way why SHOULD I change my opinion? I've had no one challenge my ideas on bronies before so why should I? (This incident is the single exception)

You should change your opinion because you are probably better than that. I firmly believe that you are able to think outside of these convenient, yet grossly inaccurate, generalisations. Mainly 'cause I refuse to countenance the possibility that you apply this narrow minded way of thinking consistently. Or do you think that all Muslims are terrorists? That all Christians are arsonists who burn down clinics? That all gamers are deranged psychopaths whose games only serve as training devices for their inevitable killing spree?

Anyway. I think there's a reason why your interactions have been mostly negative. You are evidently not interested in the show itself. Thus the only bronies you used to come into contact with are part of the 'vocal minority' - for the 'vocal minority' are the only ones who feel compelled to, for lack of a better term, convert others to join the communityOr herd, to borrow a term from the local vernacular.. Whether these others want to or not. The more reasonable bronies either tend to mingle with other bronies or keep to themselves.

Incidentally this is the first pony-related thread I ever posted in here on the Escapist.

 

[kortin]

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Surprised no one else has replied- usually threads about MLP always get a page in full at least.

Anyhow I shall tell you my same old story about why I left the Brony community personally...

*snip*

I have to agree fully and completely with this post.

I would say more or add things, but there isn't anything to add. Everything Caramel Frappe said sums up my opinion on the fandumb. I love the show, but I can't stand the people in the fandumb aside from a small group of people I talk to (mostly) regularly.

 

[Alssadar]

The show is just a television program. The fact that the culture around it has surfaced into a growing phenomenon is just what fans do, and is an example of how people, when confronted with the anonymity of the internet, are willing to try and experience new things.

As for me, I watched it on the internet after becoming more socially engaged on the Escapist (from Pony avatars and threads and such) and completed the first season. As not one to watch TV, I never have watched an episode of season two nor was I excited for the second season. It was simply a show to me--whimsical, silly entertainment.

As for that matter, the fandom I despise are those who become fervent and zealous, preaching and reaching out to all who many hear, as they strive to be some form of Internet Conquistador and make all spaces part of their fandom. They've created their life around the ponies and are rude to others who dislike the show, despite their "love and tolerate" standpoint they toss at "haters."

I've never considered myself part of the fandom, per se. I've liked the show, and that's all about it.

 

[Saviordd1]

When you have a majority screaming the same thing at you what are you supposed to think?
Considering every brony, on the internet, and in my life, that I have interacted with acts the same way why SHOULD I change my opinion? I've had no one challenge my ideas on bronies before so why should I? (This incident is the single exception)

You should change your opinion because you are probably better than that. I firmly believe that you are able to think outside of these convenient, yet grossly inaccurate, generalisations. Mainly 'cause I refuse to countenance the possibility that you apply this narrow minded way of thinking consistently. Or do you think that all Muslims are terrorists? That all Christians are arsonists who burn down clinics? That all gamers are deranged psychopaths whose games only serve as training devices for their inevitable killing spree?

Anyway. I think there's a reason why your interactions have been mostly negative. You are evidently not interested in the show itself. Thus the only bronies you used to come into contact with are part of the 'vocal minority' - for the 'vocal minority' are the only ones who feel compelled to, for lack of a better term, convert others to join the communityOr herd, to borrow a term from the local vernacular.. Whether these others want to or not. The more reasonable bronies either tend to mingle with other bronies or keep to themselves.

Incidentally this is the first pony-related thread I ever posted in here on the Escapist.

Yes but the difference is all the muslims and christians (or, well, most of them) I've met don't act on their bigoted part at all.

Are there less annoying bronies out there? Probably, but considering you are the only one who I have ever run into who doesn't beat me over the head with it I am loathe to change my opinion.

If I run into greater numbers who act as you do I'll change my opinion, but until then the vocal minority is the majority in my life.

 

[waj9876]

As someone who is still a huge brony at heart:

I mainly stick to the Brony Minecraft forums and servers, and FiMfiction. Mainly the Human in Equestria stories on the latter to be more specific. (I am not shitting you, these can be entertaining and amazing beyond belief once you learn how to filter out the crappy ones. Romance is usually a no-no...But if it's handled well, it can actually ADD to the appeal of the story.) So I rarely get exposed to the stuff that drives people away.

I personally do not like the clop stuff. Oh sure, I can see the appeal, me being someone who is able to appreciate the well-drawn furry stuff, but...Meh. I just don't like it. I'm not saying I have a problem with the ones who DO like it. People like different things, and as the Internet has taught me, if it exists, there is at least one pornographic image of it, and at least 100 people with a fetish for it. I myself liking some weird shit as well.