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CulixCupric

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DrgoFx said:
With the recent thread about feminists, it has me curious. What is everyone's opinion on the Feminist movement based off of their experiences?
I'm a male feminist, because what feminist do effects males as well. we (all feminist) don't work towards female rights, but social equality of the genders, and that could continue further into equality of all groups, including completely tolerant humanity.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
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Well, to be fair, I did say the western world. Other areas seem to have some big problems with womens rights, and of course feminism is needed over there. But I was not talking about them, so dont pull them into the conversation, as if I was saying the situation in Islamic countries is fine as it is.
Street harrassment, domestic violence, stalking, sexual assault, ALL happen in the western world.
And once again, you are giving me the impression you do get your views from stupid stereotypes. (Which is rather ironic for a feminist.) Because the thing is, women are more likely to commit domestic violence and stalking than men. Once again, I have to ask; where are you getting your views? Did you read one article in a newspaper and trust social stereotypes?

Besides, no matter how equal you make men and women, things like street harassment, domestic violence and sexual assault are still going to happen. Just one of those things. People do stuff like that from time to time, and it has fuck all to do with sexism.
Did you actually READ all my post?
`And NO I'M NOT saying these are all soley perpetrated against women by men. What I'm saying is that they are still issues.`
And yes, these things will happen, but just because fires happen doesn't mean we don't install fire alarms.
And are you saying the lack of reporting of female-on-male domestic violence has NOTHING to do with sexism?

And as for my `views` and where I got them: life.
Please stop trying to patronise me, I've been perfectly clear and reasonable about my opinions.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Shall we just agree to disagree? It looks like this discussion is going nowhere.

So from my side, im just going to leave it at that, no hard feelings and all.
I agree, it's probably best to leave it.
No hard feelings either, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
 

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Macgyvercas said:
unless we're talking about fashion and I'm sorry, but I gave that to women and some guys who know the difference between teal and fuchsia.
teal is green-blue, and fuchsia is a light, unsaturated purple. oddly enough most men are slightly color blind to at least a minor degree. I got lucky, and I can see colors as well as girls. I'm a bit feminine for a guy, that's also part of the lucky, at least in my book.
 

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Depends on what definition you're going off of. If you talking about a person who is for women's rights I met a lot of feminist and they act like people and are quite diverse. If you're talking crazy lunatics who call themselves feminists I can't say I've met any of those. However don't say all feminist are like that, that's like saying all men are misogynistic or christianity is represented by westboro.
 

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We need to find the feminist queen and kill her. I've seen enough movies to know that how you deal with these types of problems.
 

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The only encounter that I had with a feminazi was a girl over the internet that was just plain stupid, she flat out said that when a man asked her at a feminist convention about her domestic abuse several years before, she wanted to ask "are you going to go jerk off to this?" she flat out said that men shouldn't attend feminist conventions, because they'll use what they learn there to get close to women and hurt them better. Oh yeah, and then she complained about when she was pregneant that she was treated like an "incubator" saying that people said that she shouldn't drink coffe...lady...to be blunt, if you're pregnant, you ARE an incubator, there is a child growing inside of you, and if you don't want the kid to be royally messed up, you've got to take certain responsibilities.
 

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Colour-Scientist said:


Let the woman bashing commence! Down with the hive mind of the Evil Feminist Alliance for the Destruction of Men!
It's a good thing everyone on this site has a well-informed opinion on what feminism is!
XD This...god this. Seriously...I don't think anything else needs to be added.
 

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LOL, stupid bitches. Feminism is irrelevant in this day and age. If women weren't so dumb they'd be able to see that.

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Matthew94 said:
About the supposed pay gap, if women earn less then why don't all companies employ more women. Surely it would make financial sense?

Exactly.

Men tend to take harder jobs and also don't leave work due to children, things like this explain the supposed gap.
This is because of the still existing stereotype that men work harder than women. Now this is not to say that men are actually all just lazy and that only women really do any work. Obviously it depends on the person. Still, the stereotype prevails and men get hired more often than not as a result.
 

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manic_depressive13 said:
LOL, stupid bitches. Feminism is irrelevant in this day and age. If women weren't so dumb they'd be able to see that.
It's quite clear that it is, indeed, relevant in this day and age. Unless you're somehow typing from somewhere around 200 BC.
 

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"Damned if you do, damned if you don't" about sums up my experiences. Then again I didn't really have many encounters with that irritable, presumptuous, kind of feminists.

I think just because respect, understanding and social equality are implied in western world that doesn't mean they're exercised. So yeah, feminism is not obsolete...yet.
 

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Modern feminism is mainly focused on breaking down the perceived differences between men and women and on eliminating genuine inequalities, not on 'man hating'. People who have actual interest in the subject might want to check out the book "The Myth of Mars and Venus" by Deborah Cameron.
 

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Feminists in general just want there to be equal rights and equal opportunities for men and women. Unfortunately it does sometimes come across as anti-man because it is primarily the male dominance of various spectra of society that stands in the way of achieving equal rights and equal opportunities for men and women.

SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Its gone from pushing for womans rights like the right to vote to pushing for laws that force companies to employ an equal number of men and women, which is just plain stupid.
Please provide a link to any source where someone advocates introducing a law forcing companies to employ an equal number of men and women. Any source at all.
 

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The issue I'm seeing is that this is a really, really broad topic. Feminism contains plenty of different movements and world views, and some even conflict with others. It's a diverse school of thought. Something like radical feminism is probably going to be a lot less palatable to most people (and depressingly, that's the kind that often gets the most publicity). A lot of feminists don't necessarily identify themselves as such, which makes it hard to make judgements based on experience, when you've probably met plenty of agreeable and sensible feminists without realizing or identifying them as such.

Phasmal said:
Also, why would you purposely go looking for man-hating feminists, if not just to anger yourself more against a normally reasonable group of people?
I will hesitantly point out that you knew you'd find feminist hating men in coming here, yet you came anyway. As well as a few other threads I recall seeing you in with the same inherent risk. Similarly, if you're looking for gamers who are accepting of both women and feminism, these threads will only serve to ruin your optimism, since they can be a magnet for anti-feminist and occasionally downright misogynistic individuals. Just a tip from a fellow Escapist who'd rather you not suffer brain damage from repeatedly banging your head against your monitor.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
All reasonably minded people are feminists.


I believe in gender equality in all the important areas of life.

Holding a door open for a lady does not make me a misogynist, defending a woman from a male attacker doesn't make me a misogynist.

The people who would claim that, use feminism as a shield to spread their own ingorance and hatred.

Men and women are not the same in a lot of areas. Both genders react differently to different situations, and then individuals within those genders will act differently from others.

I don't treat everyone the same, that's silly.

What I do is treat people with respect until they give me cause to do otherwise, whether they're male, female, black, white, young, old.
Well done, I entirely agree with your first sentence. I'm a male feminist. Where is that picture of Brian Cox?
 

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Suicidejim said:
Phasmal said:
Also, why would you purposely go looking for man-hating feminists, if not just to anger yourself more against a normally reasonable group of people?
I will hesitantly point out that you knew you'd find feminist hating men in coming here, yet you came anyway. As well as a few other threads I recall seeing you in with the same inherent risk. Similarly, if you're looking for gamers who are accepting of both women and feminism, these threads will only serve to ruin your optimism, since they can be a magnet for anti-feminist and occasionally downright misogynistic individuals. Just a tip from a fellow Escapist who'd rather you not suffer brain damage from repeatedly banging your head against your monitor.
Sadly, I think you are probably right.

I usually come in these kind of threads hoping to find awesome and accepting gamers (and they do exsist). And also because these threads seem to talk about feminists as if they are around, but not in the gaming community, which they certainly are. And I'm not afraid to say `Feminist here, not crazy, not man hating`.
But lately these threads just serve to make me feel like I don't belong.
 

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I have never, ever come across a "man-hating feminazi". I've come across a number of passionate and/or bad tempered feminists that don't suffer fools, but that's it. In my experience, feminists seem to be the types who wish they could stop caring but don't know how. The lack of hatred from feminists in general is rather odd, IMHO, given the absurd amount of hatred they recieve.

Matthew94 said:
About the supposed pay gap, if women earn less then why don't all companies employ more women. Surely it would make financial sense?
Surely it'd make sense to allow openly gay soldiers to serve in the US military, if they are always trying to find more recruits?

They only stopped banning openly gay soldiers a few months ago. A few decades before that, they were excluding black people from many parts of the US military while still calling for recruits.
 

hazabaza1

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Feminazis, bad.
Feminists, good.

There, summed up what needs to be said in every thread like this ever.
 

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Only self proclaimed feminist I ever met was a ***** of a teacher who picked on the boys and let the girls get away with murder. For example my friend got kicked out of the class for texting on his phone under the table, meanwhile a girl had her phone on the table in plain sight using it whenever. I'm not saying all feminists are like that but that's just the only experience I've had.

For the record I believe in equality but I wouldn't say I'm a feminist.