Experiences with Fridge Logic.

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For those of you who don't know what Fridge Logic is, it can be defined here. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FridgeLogic
I caution you to not spend a lot of time there, it will eat your soul and you will never be able to leave.

If you don't want to click the link I'll do a quick summary.

Basically, you watch a show, a film or whatever, and something doesn't quite sit right. You're not sure what and you're not sure if its bad or not. Then an arbitrary amount of time later something clicks and you realise what you just saw and why it bugged you. This could be something great, something bad or something that might have wide implications for what you're watching and justify other things that are done. Usually likened to the lightbulb flicking on when opening a fridge.

Spoiler: For those of you who dont watch Doctor Who, skip this bit, unless you're interested for some reason

I have no idea how I finally came to this realisation after all this time but I was shocked when I realised that its actually true. Or at least there's a strong probability.

In the Doctor Who episode 'Blink' there are the Weeping Angels who can't move when they are being watched, except they also appear to not move when no one is watching them at certain points. At first I thought it was a device used to stop the Angels from just walking up to Sally and digesting her back into the past and ending the episode after the first 10 minutes. But its not.

The chracters may not be looking at the totally inconspicuous Angels but there is still one person left who is watching their every move. That person is you, the audience.

Want proof? Well I thought of that.

Spoiler

When Sally moves between the audience and the Angel, in the background, she cuts off everyones view of the Angel, including ours, and it moves.

This might not be a particularly big example but for some reason it shocked the hell out of me, probably because everytime I see a statue I think they could be real.. what? I have friends. But more importantly this gives a valid reason for the Angels coming back in the next season, for a two parter.

Anyway what's your best example of Fridge Logic, your Eureka moment, or your big realisation?
This could be in any medium: games, movies, TV, sock puppet theatre. Any examples of things you have never realised are welcome too.

 

[lenneth]

I usually get a lot of Eureka moments whenever i play through a new Zelda game

 

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I usually get a lot of Eureka moments whenever i play through a new Zelda game

Any specific examples?
this thread is clearly going to bomb

 

[grimsprice]

I realized there was absolutely no way for the Starwars Prequels to make sense unless it was all just one big senile memory rattling around in Obi-Wans head.

Oh, yeah. And i totally forgot about the Matrix... yeah. Don't get me started.

 

[Disaster Button]

I realized there was absolutely no way for the Starwars Prequels to make sense unless it was all just one big senile memory rattling around in Obi-Wans head.

One thing that bugged me was when Darth Vader greets Obi Wan so respectfully in one of the 4-6 movies. Then we're shown that Obi-Wan seperates young Anakin from all his limbs and leaves him their to be burned alive by lava which I can only image would hurt, like a lot, until he is turned into Vader.

 

[chozo_hybrid]

Very well done on the Doctor Who one, happens to be one of my favorites of the new series.

I realized there was absolutely no way for the Starwars Prequels to make sense unless it was all just one big senile memory rattling around in Obi-Wans head.

One thing that bugged me was when Darth Vader greets Obi Wan so respectfully in one of the 4-6 movies. Then we're shown that Obi-Wan seperates young Anakin from all his limbs and leaves him their to be burned alive by lava which I can only image would hurt, like a lot, until he is turned into Vader.

A lot of time has passed, and he learned that anger blinded him at that point, so he had a better control of himself in A NEW HOPE.

 

[jasoncyrus]

For those of you who don't know what Fridge Logic is, it can be defined here. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FridgeLogic
I caution you to not spend a lot of time there, it will eat your soul and you will never be able to leave.

If you don't want to click the link I'll do a quick summary.

Basically, you watch a show, a film or whatever, and something doesn't quite sit right. You're not sure what and you're not sure if its bad or not. Then an arbitrary amount of time later something clicks and you realise what you just saw and why it bugged you. This could be something great, something bad or something that might have wide implications for what you're watching and justify other things that are done. Usually likened to the lightbulb flicking on when opening a fridge.

Spoiler: For those of you who dont watch Doctor Who, skip this bit, unless you're interested for some reason

I have no idea how I finally came to this realisation after all this time but I was shocked when I realised that its actually true. Or at least there's a strong probability.

In the Doctor Who episode 'Blink' there are the Weeping Angels who can't move when they are being watched, except they also appear to not move when no one is watching them at certain points. At first I thought it was a device used to stop the Angels from just walking up to Sally and digesting her back into the past and ending the episode after the first 10 minutes. But its not.

The chracters may not be looking at the totally inconspicuous Angels but there is still one person left who is watching their every move. That person is you, the audience.

Want proof? Well I thought of that.

Spoiler

When Sally moves between the audience and the Angel, in the background, she cuts off everyones view of the Angel, including ours, and it moves.

This might not be a particularly big example but for some reason it shocked the hell out of me, probably because everytime I see a statue I think they could be real.. what? I have friends. But more importantly this gives a valid reason for the Angels coming back in the next season, for a two parter.

Anyway what's your best example of Fridge Logic, your Eureka moment, or your big realisation?
This could be in any medium: games, movies, TV, sock puppet theatre. Any examples of things you have never realised are welcome too.

Actually they cant come back for a 2 parter because as shown at the near end of the episode, they ended up looking at each other as the tardis left. Thus trapping them there forever. I assume they have really goodnight vision aswell since they always cover their eyes so they dont see each other.

EDIT: That episode scared the shit out of me.

 

[Disaster Button]

For those of you who don't know what Fridge Logic is, it can be defined here. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FridgeLogic
I caution you to not spend a lot of time there, it will eat your soul and you will never be able to leave.

If you don't want to click the link I'll do a quick summary.

Basically, you watch a show, a film or whatever, and something doesn't quite sit right. You're not sure what and you're not sure if its bad or not. Then an arbitrary amount of time later something clicks and you realise what you just saw and why it bugged you. This could be something great, something bad or something that might have wide implications for what you're watching and justify other things that are done. Usually likened to the lightbulb flicking on when opening a fridge.

Spoiler: For those of you who dont watch Doctor Who, skip this bit, unless you're interested for some reason

I have no idea how I finally came to this realisation after all this time but I was shocked when I realised that its actually true. Or at least there's a strong probability.

In the Doctor Who episode 'Blink' there are the Weeping Angels who can't move when they are being watched, except they also appear to not move when no one is watching them at certain points. At first I thought it was a device used to stop the Angels from just walking up to Sally and digesting her back into the past and ending the episode after the first 10 minutes. But its not.

The chracters may not be looking at the totally inconspicuous Angels but there is still one person left who is watching their every move. That person is you, the audience.

Want proof? Well I thought of that.

Spoiler

When Sally moves between the audience and the Angel, in the background, she cuts off everyones view of the Angel, including ours, and it moves.

This might not be a particularly big example but for some reason it shocked the hell out of me, probably because everytime I see a statue I think they could be real.. what? I have friends. But more importantly this gives a valid reason for the Angels coming back in the next season, for a two parter.

Anyway what's your best example of Fridge Logic, your Eureka moment, or your big realisation?
This could be in any medium: games, movies, TV, sock puppet theatre. Any examples of things you have never realised are welcome too.

Actually they cant come back for a 2 parter because as shown at the near end of the episode, they ended up looking at each other as the tardis left. Thus trapping them there forever. I assume they have really goodnight vision aswell since they always cover their eyes so they dont see each other.

EDIT: That episode scared the shit out of me.

Lightbulbs burn out eventually, and you know what happens then.

Besides its already been revealed they're coming back, they were even in the trailer for Season 5. So yeah.

 

[000Ronald]

Does fridge brilliance count? That's basically how me and my dad bond.

By way of an example, we watched Akira (two or three times) yesterday. Then we talked about it. What came up in our discussion...

- How power is portrayed as a drug. Tetsuo is, of course, the obvious example, but the three children, the military, and even (and especially) Nezu; all of them had power and (in some way or another) wanted more, culminating in their destruction.

- The nature of psychic powers. Dad said that Akira was able to stop the destruction because he was pure; the three children and Tetsuo were not.

- The big guy (DISCIPLINE! DISCIPLINE! DISCIPLINE!) punching the smallest member of the gang, and slapping the rest. Look really closely, he does.

- How funny it is that Kaneda spits up blood after being shoved onto the ground.

- Dad went into how it was possible that psychics were caused by some sort of human interference with the natural process of things; he validated this by saying Tetsuo's purpose was to correct a massive imbalince in this wave that was the expirience of human conciousness. I threw a wrench in it by pointing out that balance was paramount to destruction. Think about E=MC[sub]2[/sub]; if there were no waves means no matter, and no matter means no universe.

- Exactly what happened to Akira, Tetsuo, and the psychic "children" (bear in mind they'd be in their early thirties). Dad thought they were vaporized; part of the wave idea. I still have no clue.

- Exactly how smart Kaneda was. He was a delenquent, obviously, but he figured out how to work a helicopter engine with a chair on it in a matter of seconds, with no prior experience. This went to his motorcycle; perhaps Tetsuo couldn't drive it properly because no one could drive it property, except Kaneda, due to Kaneda tampering with it. Which makes you wonder if he knew as soon as it was stolen that it was Tetsuo.

Amongst other things.

Apologies if this isn't what you're looking for.

 

[jasoncyrus]

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Hope they kill off the new doctor then. He looks like a douche.

 

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Hope they kill off the new doctor then. He looks like a douche.

Uhm, how can you make a judgement like that based solely on his looks and about 20 seconds of screen time?

 

[SendMeNoodz84]

The movie "Signs" has so many plot holes, I have no idea where to start.

 

[oppp7]

I didn't realize until recently that the Lion King had serious racist undertones.
And Pokemon Emerald's plot was a metaphor for not messing with the environment because we don't know what our actions might cause.

 

[jasoncyrus]

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Hope they kill off the new doctor then. He looks like a douche.

Uhm, how can you make a judgement like that based solely on his looks and about 20 seconds of screen time?

Quite easy since I said he *_LOOKS_* like a douche. To do so requires actually looking at a person. He also sounds like one. Plus it's been stated the are bringing dr who to a more teen audience. Thus he will be portrayed as a soft hearted pansy douche and not the hard gritty wounded ancient being he is.

He will become like Hanson on the jonas brothers. Gods save us.

 

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Hope they kill off the new doctor then. He looks like a douche.

Uhm, how can you make a judgement like that based solely on his looks and about 20 seconds of screen time?

Quite easy since I said he *_LOOKS_* like a douche. To do so requires actually looking at a person. He also sounds like one. Plus it's been stated the are bringing dr who to a more teen audience. Thus he will be portrayed as a soft hearted pansy douche and not the hard gritty wounded ancient being he is.

He will become like Hanson on the jonas brothers. Gods save us.

Actually the new season is taking a more violent turn with the new Doctor atually carrying weapons and engaging in actual fights. Hell its being headed by Steven Moffat now, and he's been known to write some of the darker stories so you're quite wrong on that. And it was never beeing geared towards teenagers, it is already a show for children, teenagers and adults alike. And I still think its quite ignorant to say someone simply 'looks' like a douche as looks do not reflect personality.

 

[Syntax Error]

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If the ending is anything to go by, it seems the explosion triggered the creation of another universe, where Tetsuo reigns supreme. Just sad that it took another two years before the manga got a proper ending.

 

[Grayjack]

Spoiler: Persona 3 October 4th, 2009 spoiler

Shinjiro is shot, and no one uses Dia or a variant. How do two cutscene bullets kill him but he can survive being sliced, burned, and smashed in a fight? Also the streetlight is on, even though electronics don't function in the Dark Hour.

 

[jasoncyrus]

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Hope they kill off the new doctor then. He looks like a douche.

Uhm, how can you make a judgement like that based solely on his looks and about 20 seconds of screen time?

Quite easy since I said he *_LOOKS_* like a douche. To do so requires actually looking at a person. He also sounds like one. Plus it's been stated the are bringing dr who to a more teen audience. Thus he will be portrayed as a soft hearted pansy douche and not the hard gritty wounded ancient being he is.

He will become like Hanson on the jonas brothers. Gods save us.

Actually the new season is taking a more violent turn with the new Doctor atually carrying weapons and engaging in actual fights. Hell its being headed by Steven Moffat now, and he's been known to write some of the darker stories so you're quite wrong on that. And it was never beeing geared towards teenagers, it is already a show for children, teenagers and adults alike. And I still think its quite ignorant to say someone simply 'looks' like a douche as looks do not reflect personality.

Ok your first line just confirmed my fears that they are going to ruin Dr Who.

The doctor has NEVER carried a proper weapon unless he was facing the likes of a dalek which cant be outsmarted. Thanks for confirming the BBC fucking up one of the few good things they've ever made.

And thanks for reminding me to rewatch the trailer. As can clearly be seen from it it's completely different from the past 10 doctors, in a bad way.

For the sake of arguments I will quote the doctor him "I never use a gun." This causing the very simple situation of: if he uses it for anyhting other than a scientific practical use (like knocking something over and not harming something) then its ok. If he uses it for actual violence then they will have succeeded in forever soiling the doctors good name and pacifism.

It doesnt need darker storylines. Most of them have a dark line to them but it's always had a buzz of excitement to it. I'd rather not see it turn into a line of psychological horror.

Plus he struck a dalek in the head with a bit of another Dalek...the doctor would never do that. Shows just how poor this new director/writing team is. They dont even know hiw core character.

 

[Disaster Button]

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Hope they kill off the new doctor then. He looks like a douche.

Uhm, how can you make a judgement like that based solely on his looks and about 20 seconds of screen time?

Quite easy since I said he *_LOOKS_* like a douche. To do so requires actually looking at a person. He also sounds like one. Plus it's been stated the are bringing dr who to a more teen audience. Thus he will be portrayed as a soft hearted pansy douche and not the hard gritty wounded ancient being he is.

He will become like Hanson on the jonas brothers. Gods save us.

Actually the new season is taking a more violent turn with the new Doctor atually carrying weapons and engaging in actual fights. Hell its being headed by Steven Moffat now, and he's been known to write some of the darker stories so you're quite wrong on that. And it was never beeing geared towards teenagers, it is already a show for children, teenagers and adults alike. And I still think its quite ignorant to say someone simply 'looks' like a douche as looks do not reflect personality.

Ok your first line just confirmed my fears that they are going to ruin Dr Who.

The doctor has NEVER carried a proper weapon unless he was facing the likes of a dalek which cant be outsmarted. Thanks for confirming the BBC fucking up one of the few good things they've ever made.

And thanks for reminding me to rewatch the trailer. As can clearly be seen from it it's completely different from the past 10 doctors, in a bad way.

For the sake of arguments I will quote the doctor him "I never use a gun." This causing the very simple situation of: if he uses it for anyhting other than a scientific practical use (like knocking something over and not harming something) then its ok. If he uses it for actual violence then they will have succeeded in forever soiling the doctors good name and pacifism.

It doesnt need darker storylines. Most of them have a dark line to them but it's always had a buzz of excitement to it. I'd rather not see it turn into a line of psychological horror.

Plus he struck a dalek in the head with a bit of another Dalek...the doctor would never do that. Shows just how poor this new director/writing team is. They dont even know hiw core character.

I agree about it not needing to be more violent, I always preferred the emotional darkness of the stories in the past, hopefully that won't be lost, but this isn't because of a poor writing team at all.

With every new Doctor he takes on new personality traits, I guess being a bit more physical is part of this guys personality. If it was the same character with a different face things would get incredibly repetitive after 30 seasons and a bit stupid.

And psychological horror has always been a part of Doctor Who. Did you watch Blink and The Library 2 parter? Those are episodes written by the new lead writrer who succeeded Russel T Davies.

I still doubt its as bad as I made it sound, I kind of suck at explaining things, but I'm gonna wait until the show actually airs before making a judgement.