Fable 2 was pretty boring but will be forever be redeemed in my mind by the ability to make an entire crowd of people gape in horror at your character sharting her pants.
Fable 2: The Lost Fun
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Yeah. I wish real-life crowds were like that. I could get a promotion from simply making stupid faces and burping.miracleofsound said:
Nothing wrong with that, if you enjoy a game, then good for you. That's what it's all about, personal enjoyment.MortisLegio said:
*Peeks head around corner* What did you say? It's cool to like Fable 2? *Steps out from dark hiding spot*BolognaBaloney said:
Yeah, I really enjoyed it, and still do. I think it gave the player a variety of reasons to play, more so than the first. For instance, while I did play the story missions, I really focused more on being a "landlord" of sorts. It started with a couple wagons and has evolved into a multi-million dollar empire. I'm raking in tens of thousands of dollars every time I'm paid. I find that quite enjoyable.
In the end, I'd still rate Fable(The Lost Chapters) better than Fable 2, though there are aspects of the sequel that I enjoy more.[/boringrant]
Eh, I'm torn.
On the one hand I did enjoy the tooled up melee system and the gun play, and the character customisation made a leap to the better. But then they destroyed the spell casting (F:TLC had arguably some of the all time best spells ever) and took away the monsters.
Where's my Kraken Molyneux!?
On the one hand I did enjoy the tooled up melee system and the gun play, and the character customisation made a leap to the better. But then they destroyed the spell casting (F:TLC had arguably some of the all time best spells ever) and took away the monsters.
Where's my Kraken Molyneux!?
Im glad you made the comment about the lobotomy. No matter what my character is doing their expression does not change and they look cross eyed and confused.
Further more, Peter REALLY fucked up when he took away my armor. I LOVED Archons armor, and adored it when i took on Jack of Blades mask and put on the mages robes to look intimidating.
I agree that the character interactivity is bad but given the circumstance that its the AI generating how they talk to you not scenarios like Bethesda creates its decent. I will admit i hated seeing 14 of my wife WHEREVER i went Fable 2.
Like Yahtzee said i dont remember Conan getting a job to get his revenge. I felt like Fable 2 was a pathetic RPG and a life simulator that i coulda made better on table top terms.
Fable 2 has one quality that i wished to see in F:TLC. That is that i can go through the arena as much as i want. I wished i could revisit it in F:TLC but its not like it was some major drawback.
Also in Fable 2 i didnt give a shit about Lucien. Hes a presence in the begining when he kills your sister and you somehow survive a bullet to the chest and a 20 story fall at the age of 6 but thats a different story. And hes a small presence at the end when you kill him WITH A MUSIC BOX! In Fable the lost chapters Jack of Blades was present, or was talked about all the time. You felt like no matter how evil you might be for slaying an ENTIRE village Jack of Blades must be that much evil-er. And he was! Especially since Jacks voice was cool, calm and haunting as opposed to Luciens which seemed more like an English Gentleman
Further more, Peter REALLY fucked up when he took away my armor. I LOVED Archons armor, and adored it when i took on Jack of Blades mask and put on the mages robes to look intimidating.
I agree that the character interactivity is bad but given the circumstance that its the AI generating how they talk to you not scenarios like Bethesda creates its decent. I will admit i hated seeing 14 of my wife WHEREVER i went Fable 2.
Like Yahtzee said i dont remember Conan getting a job to get his revenge. I felt like Fable 2 was a pathetic RPG and a life simulator that i coulda made better on table top terms.
Fable 2 has one quality that i wished to see in F:TLC. That is that i can go through the arena as much as i want. I wished i could revisit it in F:TLC but its not like it was some major drawback.
Also in Fable 2 i didnt give a shit about Lucien. Hes a presence in the begining when he kills your sister and you somehow survive a bullet to the chest and a 20 story fall at the age of 6 but thats a different story. And hes a small presence at the end when you kill him WITH A MUSIC BOX! In Fable the lost chapters Jack of Blades was present, or was talked about all the time. You felt like no matter how evil you might be for slaying an ENTIRE village Jack of Blades must be that much evil-er. And he was! Especially since Jacks voice was cool, calm and haunting as opposed to Luciens which seemed more like an English Gentleman
I agree, Fable 2 didn't have any challenging fights, except maybe for the oneExaltedK9 said:
where you fight that officer in the spire.
It is sad. With Fable, Molyneux generated alot of hype to produce an average game, then with Fable2 he creates even more hype and makes a worse sequel.
This used to be the guy behind populous, syndicate, dungeon keeper, magic carpet.
Maybe back at Bullfrog they had a person to make sure that gameplay and challenge wouldn't be neglected among all the fancy features that wouldn't make it in the final game anyway.
This used to be the guy behind populous, syndicate, dungeon keeper, magic carpet.
Maybe back at Bullfrog they had a person to make sure that gameplay and challenge wouldn't be neglected among all the fancy features that wouldn't make it in the final game anyway.
I agree that fable one was more fun however you, like me before I thought about it alot, do not realise why you feel so empty while playing fable 2.
The reason fable one characters are more likeable is because there actually is some characters. In fable two if you try to count how many actual characters there are you wont run out of fingers.
This is fairly terrible, I mean, in fable one the townsfolk were still a little boring. But at least they were slightly quirky. While in fable 2 they are utterly void of life. They run around the place slapping their hands together like circus seals. They are so dumb you don't kill them, you put them down, like a dog.
In fable one you felt as though you were slowly becoming famous, this reaches its peak when you enter the witch wood arena to fight in front of an audience. This made the game more fulfilling as you move from zero to hero, although I bleeding hate that term.
Also in fable two you had absolutely no freedom whatsoever. The game practically mocks you for it, displaying characters like wooden duck targets, so ripe to be killed, so hateful. And yet you are forced to put up with them, for no better reason than because the game says so. Your avatar, by and large, is a emotionless cursor for piloting you across the yawntastic storyline. Hells at least in fable one your character rolls his eyes or yawns, some sort of response to the horrible situations he is piled into.
So yes I for one agree with your concern for lion head studios. The difference is also clear when you see black and white one.
In black and white one your creature is a incredible thinking and lovable pet who you can train to be a magical beast. He makes decisions based on what you have taught him and tries to help you in your quest for godly dominance.
In black and white 2 your creature is a great big monster that you use for three things, killing killing and ignoring. Left to his own devices he wont befriend other creatures, or learn how to cast spells, you buy spells for him in his boring brain shop thing. Instead he stands there, sleeps, throws fireballs at rocks and gurns. How bloody boring. Hopefully project natal will be great (I'm joking)
The reason fable one characters are more likeable is because there actually is some characters. In fable two if you try to count how many actual characters there are you wont run out of fingers.
This is fairly terrible, I mean, in fable one the townsfolk were still a little boring. But at least they were slightly quirky. While in fable 2 they are utterly void of life. They run around the place slapping their hands together like circus seals. They are so dumb you don't kill them, you put them down, like a dog.
In fable one you felt as though you were slowly becoming famous, this reaches its peak when you enter the witch wood arena to fight in front of an audience. This made the game more fulfilling as you move from zero to hero, although I bleeding hate that term.
Also in fable two you had absolutely no freedom whatsoever. The game practically mocks you for it, displaying characters like wooden duck targets, so ripe to be killed, so hateful. And yet you are forced to put up with them, for no better reason than because the game says so. Your avatar, by and large, is a emotionless cursor for piloting you across the yawntastic storyline. Hells at least in fable one your character rolls his eyes or yawns, some sort of response to the horrible situations he is piled into.
So yes I for one agree with your concern for lion head studios. The difference is also clear when you see black and white one.
In black and white one your creature is a incredible thinking and lovable pet who you can train to be a magical beast. He makes decisions based on what you have taught him and tries to help you in your quest for godly dominance.
In black and white 2 your creature is a great big monster that you use for three things, killing killing and ignoring. Left to his own devices he wont befriend other creatures, or learn how to cast spells, you buy spells for him in his boring brain shop thing. Instead he stands there, sleeps, throws fireballs at rocks and gurns. How bloody boring. Hopefully project natal will be great (I'm joking)
I haven't read the entire thread yet, but I feel I must reply to this.Irridium said:
I am one of the (probably) few that had never heard of the Fable hype when I bought it, in fact I hadn't even heard of the game a year after it's release, when I casually walked into a Gamestop and saw it on the shelves and bought it.
Well I wasn't expecting much, after playing Morrowind I thought nothing could compare. But unlike most games I play, including Morrowind, I found that the game was nearly perfect. The only things that were bad were the things I thought they left out (like raising a kid, which I even noticed missing, without even hearing the hype that there was supposed to be more). So of course I expected a lot out of my beloved Fable series to pretty much be the same thing, only with more added, bigger, and better. They delivered on most aspects with Fable 2, but something just wasn't right. I think that I would have considered the game pretty good if the story wasn't horrible and ending so quickly (and stupidly).
So in other words, I don't know where "hopefully it won't suck and be full of broken promises like the first Fable" came from, but I bet it's just because people wanted Fable 2 to be awesome(r).
So for me, like many people, Fable is a classic, nearly perfect console RPG (PC's are for strategy and point and click RPG's, PC gamers can suck it
)(I'll probably get a lot of abuse for that comment, but it's o' so true. Diablo RPG's and Sim games are the only thing good on PC's, but they are supremely awesome)
After i finished playing Fable 2, i thought "This game SUCKED compared to the first one!"
The next day i play the first Fable again. That sucked as well.
So, in conclusion, i ended up not liking EITHER Fable game.
The next day i play the first Fable again. That sucked as well.
So, in conclusion, i ended up not liking EITHER Fable game.