If that is the future of gaming I will officially renounce all gaming forever.
...well except retro gaming.
...well except retro gaming.
Facebook Gaming Blindsided Traditional Developers
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The only flash on FAcebook I'll play is desk defense, and I was playing that way before the dev of that sold their soul to FAcebook. I hate the commercialization of it though. Fuck that.
Everyone chill. this doesn't game will suck forever. These games are succeeding because of the forgiving price structure (most people would rather pay as they go for features they care about, than put down $60 in advance for a game they may not even like.) and the popular appeal of the Facebook platform. Like the Wii, Facebook is expanding the gaming market by reaching out to traditional non-gamers. Shovelware is common on both platforms because the audience, by and large, isn't sophisticated enough to identify good games yet, but as the audience and the platform matures, the quality of games will inevitably rise.
I wonder how many of these Farmville players are situational in the sense of they are waiting for something interesting to happen online or in life. I would imagine these players are highly transient when it comes to what they are wanting to play, and will migrate to the lasted fad when they are bored with Facebook. Blindsided they may have been, but it isn't a trend in gaming that I see having a long term sustainability.
Know what's crazy? Gamers making wild generalization about people people on Facebook that get enraged when people make generalization about them.
Facebook is a freaking huge and untapped market for more traditional devs and publishers. I'm pretty sure that there are great concepts that could be implemented using the Facebook infrastructure.
And months ago I also predicted the "hardcore" gamers would ***** about it. Maybe because they just hate what's cool now.
Facebook is a freaking huge and untapped market for more traditional devs and publishers. I'm pretty sure that there are great concepts that could be implemented using the Facebook infrastructure.
Zing!Archon said:
And months ago I also predicted the "hardcore" gamers would ***** about it. Maybe because they just hate what's cool now.
Nice setup, but I'd insist your Megadrive/Genesis is missing a 32x, just because that awful thing provided me with hours of entertainment as a kid and it just doesn't look complete without it!Snotnarok said:If I want a game to play I bloody use this
That or STEAM
Facebook games... I'll pass, myself, wait 'til they develop better and grow more into my kinds of games. FarmVille is basically just a loading bar which you can click to make it go faster. I'm tempted to make my friends who play it install Progress Quest in order to purge their minds of the idea that FarmVille is somehow accomplishing anything, or that they'll reflect positively on it ever. It's a pleasant distraction, but there are much better games with similar relaxation levels out there.
I think a big part of it is it's "timefree" nature. It's not turn-based, or "real-time" as core games use it. Once you click, events happen, but progress occurs both constantly according to real-world time, regardless of whether the browser is open to FarmVille, and occur in a sort of stasis where at any point you can get up, walk away, chat with your friends, and then come back and continue clicking with absolutely no cost to your game performance. No stress, no challenge, just pleasantly clicking away to make isometric graphics spread across "your" farm, which anyone can see and you can lay out as you wish.
Hm. It's basically Animal Crossing with a Harvest Moon aesthetic, except there's no other animals/residents, and you can connect to everyone else you know who plays it much, much easier. This form certainly has potential for more core games.
The curve that was charted years ago?Archon said:
I love this site and all, but your high horse is a little low. Gamasutra has articles on this from back in '07.
Aaaanyways, on topic:
Farmville? It's Diablo with kittens and horses. How can you not enjoy it?
I'd add in most modern FPSes there too.Pimppeter2 said:
And oddly enough, as far as FB games go, Farmville's one of my least favourites. Zoo World, now there's the bunny.
I find these Facebook games to be utterly shoite. However, I can see why they appeal to most people. It's a matter of sitting down for a couple of minutes, clicking a couple of colourful objects. Most console games require a wee bit more commitment to play. However, they end out being much, much better.
I cant stand Farmville! Does anyone think that one mouse click at a time is gaming? Even Tetris had you hitting multiple buttons! If this has any actual impact on developers, I'm going to be so ticked.
I did MafiaWars for a couple of weeks when I first got on Facebook. I don't think I've played it for about 3 months. It got really boring. I just clicked on the same button for maybe 5-10 minutes a day for what amounted to nothing, just weapons to use against 'friends' with no discernible result if I beat them. No story or strategy at all was involved in it, so I just stopped.
I'm really hoping the Civ game will be a bit better though. If not, there is always Civ V to look farward to.
I'm really hoping the Civ game will be a bit better though. If not, there is always Civ V to look farward to.
With all due respect, our horse is certainly higher than their horse.JEBWrench said:
While Gamasutra was writing articles about it, we were putting it into practice and integrating game-like mechanisms into our entire site. My publisher's note was an explanation of what we had in the context of other people who were now catching on, not an "oh we just figured this out, neat." But thanks for loving the site, even if you misunderestimate our strategery.
I actually hate these games, the only one I play is mafia wars, and I'm getting tired of that, that and the constant barrage of "you could buy this, or that for an advantage, just spend $10 on a POS".
You be quiet before I smack you upside the head with a Sega Neptune! D:BobisOnlyBob said:Nice setup, but I'd insist your Megadrive/Genesis is missing a 32x, just because that awful thing provided me with hours of entertainment as a kid and it just doesn't look complete without it!Snotnarok said:If I want a game to play I bloody use this
That or STEAM
Facebook games... I'll pass, myself, wait 'til they develop better and grow more into my kinds of games. FarmVille is basically just a loading bar which you can click to make it go faster. I'm tempted to make my friends who play it install Progress Quest in order to purge their minds of the idea that FarmVille is somehow accomplishing anything, or that they'll reflect positively on it ever. It's a pleasant distraction, but there are much better games with similar relaxation levels out there.
I think a big part of it is it's "timefree" nature. It's not turn-based, or "real-time" as core games use it. Once you click, events happen, but progress occurs both constantly according to real-world time, regardless of whether the browser is open to FarmVille, and occur in a sort of stasis where at any point you can get up, walk away, chat with your friends, and then come back and continue clicking with absolutely no cost to your game performance. No stress, no challenge, just pleasantly clicking away to make isometric graphics spread across "your" farm, which anyone can see and you can lay out as you wish.
Hm. It's basically Animal Crossing with a Harvest Moon aesthetic, except there's no other animals/residents, and you can connect to everyone else you know who plays it much, much easier. This form certainly has potential for more core games.
But seriously, yeah I'm hunting for one still, I keep seeing them but the price is either too steep and there's no cable, OR they haven't tested it and there's no refund, and I know they're notorious for failing. I just bloody want one already haha.