Fallout 3 DLC + Windows Live = Fail!
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Look on the bright side, at least he's started on using capital letters and punctuation.Rezfon said:
Yeah, and it's the same with fanboyism really. All these big companies are just doing this to make money, and all of them don't really give a shit about any of us.mspencer82 said:
I also don't see how Microsoft is "taking advantage" of us by gaining exclusivity to a 4-hour expansion pack, but whatever.
mspencer82 said:
Its because the little things add up over time. Microsoft has far reaching influence and I really don't like it spreading the Xbox live business model to the PC. It already killed UAW by trying to charge people to play online using windows live, by the time they changed this it was too late. Microsoft has the power to completely monopolize the console market and because it provides the only real gaming OS it has a lot of leverage in the PC gaming market too.Fightbulb said:
I'm in no way a rabid MS hater or ignorant PC fanboy. I'm just a pro-active consumer who's purchases are guided by his personal principles. It just seems nowadays the games industry wants to charge us more for less and people willing accept it.
P.S Yes Steam was buggy for ages which is why I didn't buy HL2 until the Orange box. Only then was Steam stable enough for me to justify using it.
Welcome to business and making money.Laughing Man said:
Between using dollar values, and a point system. customers always purchase more content on a points system, as they have less relation to how much they are actually spending. Suck it up, Microsoft wants to make money, you want to play games.
Nope, 'harder' almost the same yet in context they have very different meanings. I said it was harder than it had to be. Having to install and additional client, find the location on your HD where the plugin in is stored, copying it to the correct location in the Fallout directory and then using the launcher to activate the plugin within the game and then uninstalling the useless Live client are by themselves not very HARD but they are HARDER than website, register, download, install and run ala Oblivion.
Uh yeah flawed argument at least in this context. That buggy client was an integrated part of the game's copy protection, it is an integrated part of the automatic update feature, and it's an integrated part of the multi-player gaming experience for that game series. Now Live does what exactly for Fallout 3? ummmmmmm.... allows you to download a one off DLC?.... uh..... okay I am lost anyone else able to tell me what it does beyond this, cause I am stuck at consolefying and additionally complexifying a task that should be as easy as website, register, download, install.
Indeed but I am not a mindless console monkey who's just gonna keep pushing 'quarters' in to the Microsoft money machine. I am a PC gamer and as a result of that it gives me additional 'alternatives' for getting hold of the plugin.
Let's clarify this fact my beef isn't the client persay it is the fact that the client is required for something that can be very easily handled by other means. If the client was useful to me in some other way beyond this single download, like Steam is, then fine no prob bob but it really isn't and when you combine this client, it's total lack of functionality beyond this one download and the fact that you are forced to buy more 'points' than the DLC actually costs and the result is a rather cheap money making exercise.
Hey the option will be there for me to acquire the DLC by other means but I am an honest kind of guy so I'll do the right thing, stick my wallet back in my pocket and flick the V at Bethesda and MS.
I can confirm this. Hit torrents about an hour ago.geldonyetich said:
Before people moan: You think I am going to buy DLC without trying it first? If I dislike it, I'll delete it.
One thing what peves me off is that had to make a new pc just to play it and have stay in live. Albeit I found thanks to fallout wiki way to get rid of the live problem (and pc one as well I hope when try later)but besides the point. As will play ball (begrudgingly)with whole live thing so long as I can get what I want from it then turn it off and not have to be online to play something I purchased as almost near spore level of annoyance.
Before someone says what about steam, it is not as intrusive, uses real currency, play content off-line (save multilplayer what acceptable as are on-line anyway,)and far better interface.
Before someone says what about steam, it is not as intrusive, uses real currency, play content off-line (save multilplayer what acceptable as are on-line anyway,)and far better interface.
ok i saw lots of complaining, lots of talk back in forth, instead of reading all that i'm just gonna say what i think on the subject.
yeah it was annoying, and having to buy xbox live points is complete crap. im a diehard steam user, i love it. but its microsoft's product, they can do with it what they want. If anyone was like me, i freaked out when once i turned live on I couldnt load my old games (especially my guy that i have EVERYTHING for).
if you havent figured out how to get ur old characters just log in so the DLC loads then log out of live and load ur old game.
Idk bout anyone else but I beat it really fast, i realize it wasnt supposed to be a big expansion, fallout developers said it was gonna be small. overall it was fun playing the game stealthy for once, seems like they made some effort to allow you to tackle each mission that way, even if the npcs just went charging in whenever i got close to an enemy. playing with the stealth suit will be fun, but overall idk if it was worth all the effort along with the price, and im pretty sure it wont hold me over long enough for the next expansion. but hey at least i finally have a energy powered sniper rifle.
yeah it was annoying, and having to buy xbox live points is complete crap. im a diehard steam user, i love it. but its microsoft's product, they can do with it what they want. If anyone was like me, i freaked out when once i turned live on I couldnt load my old games (especially my guy that i have EVERYTHING for).
if you havent figured out how to get ur old characters just log in so the DLC loads then log out of live and load ur old game.
Idk bout anyone else but I beat it really fast, i realize it wasnt supposed to be a big expansion, fallout developers said it was gonna be small. overall it was fun playing the game stealthy for once, seems like they made some effort to allow you to tackle each mission that way, even if the npcs just went charging in whenever i got close to an enemy. playing with the stealth suit will be fun, but overall idk if it was worth all the effort along with the price, and im pretty sure it wont hold me over long enough for the next expansion. but hey at least i finally have a energy powered sniper rifle.
Ahem, scuse me, but it is $12.50. If you have to work so hard to make this amount of money, what the hell are you doing wasting time posting here. Get back to work, you have a family to feed.
i wont get the DLC for it cause of live, Live is the reason why i got a ps3, i dont P2p MMos, im Not Going to p2p Console games either, something that bugs me though is being Required to Buy Expansions in order to get All Awards/Achievements/Trophy's that a game offers
Some people don't want to buy credit cards, that is why you can buy cards with the points on them, now I am not sure if this is the case for Windows Live but that is how it is with Xbox Live. Just make sure if you do buy points from a store that it is from YOUR COUNTRY OR IT WON'T WORK.