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Darmort

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Fallout 3... some of you love the game for reasons unknown to me, but I never liked the Fallout series. Probably because I was too young to enjoy the first games and their humour properly, but nevertheless, Fallout has never appealed to me.

But I started Fallout 3 with the intention of enjoying myself. I started playing some kind of saintly angel person and that was going rather well as I was a right goodie-goodie, always saying please and thankyou, but then that all went out of the window when I was escaping Vault 101 and blew holes into anything that moved, if only because I was already bored.
By the time I'd cleaned up Megaton and clicked the red switch on her nuclear bomb I'd become the second coming of Satan or something, having killed anything and everything that moved, save a kid which annoyingly enough I could give a new facial expression. That was about the most fun I had with Fallout 3, and mass murdering rampages are still rather boring in Fallout 3 compared to Saints Row 2 or the like.

The story isn't all that impressive, either. To be honest, I could have had a better time with my five or so hours, including not dying to a bandit on the road, by perhaps ignoring the watery-wet story and making my own, but even when I went back on my save and did that, the boring, bleak blasted wastelands aren't all that impressive a sight. I'm also disappointed in the voice acting in general, as well as the talking which seems to resolve itself no matter which way you go about it, no matter how nice or mean you are it always seems to go the same way.

At the same time, it's also a sandbox, and I played Fallout 3 after a boring session of sandbox RPGs (Oblivion and Fable II), so perhaps that might have added to my boredom, and even trying to back to it after playing shooters, puzzle games and platformers I still walked away with the same opinion, although that might have been because the whole game had been disillusioned to me by everyone saying it's amazing.

But my main problem with Fallout 3 is it's change between shooter and RPG. Oh yes, it's an action RPG with plenty of gunbattles or bashing in kneecaps if you want. Now choose, do you want to do it yourself or watch it all in slow-mo-head-blowing-up-o-vision?
There's an obvious problem here; once you're out of VATS you can immediately switch straight to point and click killing mode, which kind of makes the VATS useless after the first volley as I never really found anything that was still alive by the time I had more VATS back... unless there were about fifteen (at any one time) Megaton-settlers after my blood for attempting to blow up their dead sherrif's kid... The VATS system should have been used throughout combat, somehow. Not using it might have worked as well, but on an overall basis I believe that when you can go from Mode 1 Auto-Attack to Mode 2 Point-And-Kill Attack without any penalties, other than human error, the game is a little bit too easy... VATS is an amazing system, but because you can choose not to use it I felt as if perhaps Bethesda had been a bit lazy with it all. Having a VATS pool that you get so many points from every so often, perhaps every five seconds, with each action having a different cost in VATS points (IE, shooting a pistol opposed to a rifle would be different, as well as relative training with both weapons, or to switch a weapon, or to move during combat) would have made for a more interesting and tactical system without making it too complex. That said, great ideas are a dime a dozen.

I suppose watching heads implode on each other is kind of funny, and is certainly a redeeming factor, but the problem is that it takes forever to get to the heads imploding stage at the beginning unless you trained yourself in how to cap people in the kneecaps properly.
And I liked Fallout 3 more than I did Oblivion and Morrowind, and I still debate with myself whether I like it more than Neverwinter Nights which has been the worst of the Bioware RPGs I've played, so it isn't bad... it's just not what was advertised and although I can understand why some people would enjoy it, especially if they're new to the RPG genre or if they dislike the complexities of the tactics involved in the average Bioware RPG, then it does its job well as a quick jump into roleplaying before you tackle a really big one.

I haven't played the add-ons, although I've seen some of the armour and weapons that they provide and they look amazing compared to some of the armours from the game, but I wasn't going to dish out cash for DLC that I won't play for a game that I intend to get money back from, so I couldn't comment on them.

Overall, Fallout 3 is an okay game that's let down by a few combat problems, bad voice acting and a poor storyline, but if, for an hour, you want to run around watching heads explode in slow-motion, then I could recommend Fallout 3. It's bland and bleak, but if you want to run around for a few hours hunting down fire ants, mutants, bandits and slavers then go ahead and jump in, I guess.
 

Hotshots

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Good review my friend,but its a bit wall-o-text.
Apart from that good read.
Personally i prefer Mass Effect.
 

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Alright review in my eyes. Could've broken up the text a bit with pictures but there not strictly necessary.
I'm just curious if you just ploughed through the story or went and did a few side quests, however.
The beauty of F3 is just going out and exploring the Wastes and finding little things here and there like the giant teddy bear or the orbital weapons platform (At least, that's what I think it is), I didn't see anything about that, just story.

EDIT: What were you playing on? 360, PC, PS3?
 

SantoUno

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Your review is quite disorganized and has a tad bit of punctuation abscence, please take it more seriously next time. Other than that this doesn't really reed much like a review to me, more like a mention of the game. Your constant references to other games isn't really that appropiate if you are just using it to critize the game and/or it's originality.

Conclusion: Fix your obvious mistakes next time, and put more effort into making it read like an actual review.
 
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SantoUno said:
Darmort said:
...I still debate with myself whether I like it more than Neverwinter Nights which has been the worst of the Bioware RPGs I've played
STOP RIGHT THERE. It is made by Obsidian, NOT Bioware. Please look that sort of stuff up befoe you include it in your review.
Actually, the first NWN was made by Bioware, and the sequel was made by obsidian. Just to let you know...

OT: A pretty good review, but a bit late to the party, aren't you?
 

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DJ Lord Destructocon said:
SantoUno said:
Darmort said:
...I still debate with myself whether I like it more than Neverwinter Nights which has been the worst of the Bioware RPGs I've played
STOP RIGHT THERE. It is made by Obsidian, NOT Bioware. Please look that sort of stuff up befoe you include it in your review.
Actually, the first NWN was made by Bioware, and the sequel was made by obsidian. Just to let you know...

OT: A pretty good review, but a bit late to the party, aren't you?
Ah, my bad then, I didn't notice that he was referring to the first one.
 

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I enjoyed reading your review mate, and although I didn't necessarily agree with some of it I can see you tried to make it interesting. It could've been a little more detailed and structured, with perhaps a couple of screenies or something .. but you tried, and personally I respect your effort despite my criticisms.

Gj
 

Darmort

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Sorry for the late reply.
sasquatch99 said:
I'm just curious if you just ploughed through the story or went and did a few side quests, however.
The beauty of F3 is just going out and exploring the Wastes and finding little things here and there like the giant teddy bear or the orbital weapons platform (At least, that's what I think it is), I didn't see anything about that, just story.

EDIT: What were you playing on? 360, PC, PS3?
I did a bit of both. I ran through the story in a couple of hours or so, and then I went back to my save in Megaton to wander around.
I played it on the 360.

SantoUno said:
Your constant references to other games isn't really that appropiate if you are just using it to critize the game and/or it's originality.
Excuse me for comparison about how I feel about things, I'm sure...

s69-5 said:
Pistols and rifles do have a different AP cost in VATS which does recharge over a set time. You can add perks into small guns, two handed weapons, beam weapons, etc, which affect accuracy and power (I believe).

Though a bit confusing, do you mean use AP to switch weapons or move in combat (effectively turning Fallout into Valkyria Chronicles?)
Shooting a pistol in VATS compared to a rifle never seemed to make much different, I'd always get three or four actions (depending on my level) worth of shots off before having to go back to normal shooter mode.

A bit like that, yes, although I've never played Valkyria Chronicles so I wouldn't be able to say. I was thinking more Chaos Gate, but that games' so old few would remember it, I would think.

DJ Lord Destructocon said:
OT: A pretty good review, but a bit late to the party, aren't you?
Eh, I'll review a game that's over ten year's old quite happily as much as I will a game that's been out three days, provided I've played it and managed to get myself an opinion about the game.
 

grayfoxwins

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Hmm... actually read something I felt I should post in.

Anyway, Darmort. I liked your review simply because it's how I felt about all Bethesda games for the longest time. Initially, playing through games like Oblivion and Fallout 3 felt like playing through a moving Myst. It was a bunch of pictures spruced up a bit to jingle around. NPCs were drab, and unless you felt like exploring every part of a boring and pointless dungeon, you wouldn't get much from the game. However, after a long playthrough of Oblivion and several runthroughs of Fallout 3, I've reformed my opinion.

Fallout's really quite good... and no you don't have to be a fan of the originals. It's a great mood piece... Lots of thought put into little tiny scenes... places where you go oooo... that's weird. Like a shrine to Lincoln in the basement of an abandoned house. Been through it 4 times and still finding things I never did before. On top of that, gameplay's fun. I don't get that bored watching heads explode in VATS.

Oh, and don't worry about grammar or wall of text stuff. People complaining about that care less about what's being said than following some arbitrary forum rules for good posting.
 

SonicKoala

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A fairly decent review, even though I completely disagree on almost every level, apart from the story. I admit it's a weak main storyline, but there's so many side quests and sub-plots that one can discover if they just take the time to explore the well-designed game world. Still, it's always nice to hear someone else's opinion.
 

chronobreak

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How come you don't say anything about the plot, graphics, sound, enemies, locations, replayability, DLC, what system you played the game on, dialouge, AI or anything like that?
 

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Review missed all the important points (the stuff you can't simply learn from the trailers)

Stuff like:
VATS makes your PC almost invulnerable while it lasts or
the ammo and medkits are lying around everywhere and that makes the game too easy

gameplay stuff
 

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Darmort said:
Fallout 3... some of you love the game for reasons unknown to me, but I never liked the Fallout series.
I really, really can't get into the original Fallouts. It's a rare example of a great older game not being shown up by it's graphics or sound or whatever, but by actual advances in how games are played. Fallouts interface is, simply put, godawful.
 

Darmort

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chronobreak said:
How come you don't say anything about the plot, graphics, sound, enemies, locations, replayability, DLC, what system you played the game on, dialouge, AI or anything like that?
Well, the plot was weak, graphics are... grey, but okay I guess, sound is what I'll come to expect from an Xbox game, enemies seem to be bandits or mutated things caused my nuclear radiation or wierd experiments, the locations all look the same, I certainly didn't want to replay it, I'm not touching the DLC since I'm not replaying it (despite the fact that I think DLC is a rip off), Xbox, rather dull and more stary eyed than Half-Life 2, and pretty weak AI. It was just... bland like that. If it had more chainsaw noises, swearing, Cole and added brown to the colours I could have called it Gears of War II.


SonicKoala said:
A fairly decent review, even though I completely disagree on almost every level, apart from the story. I admit it's a weak main storyline, but there's so many side quests and sub-plots that one can discover if they just take the time to explore the well-designed game world. Still, it's always nice to hear someone else's opinion.
You know, I agree. There are a lot of side quests and sub-plots, most of which I didn't explore, but I didn't explore them because the main story didn't intrigue me. All in all, I play an RPG for the story first and foremost. If that gets me interested, I start doing other stuff.

grayfoxwins said:
Anyway, Darmort. I liked your review simply because it's how I felt about all Bethesda games for the longest time. Initially, playing through games like Oblivion and Fallout 3 felt like playing through a moving Myst. It was a bunch of pictures spruced up a bit to jingle around. NPCs were drab, and unless you felt like exploring every part of a boring and pointless dungeon, you wouldn't get much from the game. However, after a long playthrough of Oblivion and several runthroughs of Fallout 3, I've reformed my opinion.

Fallout's really quite good... and no you don't have to be a fan of the originals. It's a great mood piece... Lots of thought put into little tiny scenes... places where you go oooo... that's weird. Like a shrine to Lincoln in the basement of an abandoned house. Been through it 4 times and still finding things I never did before. On top of that, gameplay's fun. I don't get that bored watching heads explode in VATS.

Oh, and don't worry about grammar or wall of text stuff. People complaining about that care less about what's being said than following some arbitrary forum rules for good posting.
Heh, thanks.

And personally, I'm not worrying about wall of text... I personally find large pictures to break up what's actually being said and distracting.

veloper said:
Stuff like:
VATS makes your PC almost invulnerable while it lasts or
the ammo and medkits are lying around everywhere and that makes the game too easy
You know, I never noticed that first thing.
I didn't really know where to find all of this fabled ammo, but running through the mainstory and one or two sidequests gave me more than enough to finish the game, so I guess if you look hard enough there are many, many more bits and bobs, ammo wise, to collect...

Ghostwise said:
The way you speak about Bioware makes me think you believe they made Fallout 3.
More that Bioware have, in my opinion, made the best RPGs I've ever played and they're the coolest dudes in the gang, so I feel let down when everyone's raving about how good a non-Bioware RPG is, such as Oblivion or Fallout 3 is, and then I'm let down because it usually has a simplistic storyline that you can run through without problems in a few hours.
 

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Well, for me it's the mods that make Fallout 3 great. The base game is all very well, the DLC makes it really good (albeit, more glitchy and hard to mod).
 

MiracleOfSound

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bizzatronic said:
miracleofsound said:
bizzatronic said:
SHIT REVIEW U R WRONG DIE A LOT
Please try to express yourself with a little less aggression and hyperbole, there's a good newbie.
well basically no
and your not doctor cox, who is the only person ive ever seen who can say newbie without looking gay and shit.live with it, dick
Enjoy your ban, chum.
 

Octorok

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miracleofsound said:
bizzatronic said:
miracleofsound said:
bizzatronic said:
SHIT REVIEW U R WRONG DIE A LOT
Please try to express yourself with a little less aggression and hyperbole, there's a good newbie.
well basically no
and your not doctor cox, who is the only person ive ever seen who can say newbie without looking gay and shit.live with it, dick
Enjoy your ban, chum.
Ban? HA!

He won't get banned unless he gets a lot of reports, although even with the incredibly slipping standards on the Escapist, that kind of thing is still a banning offense.

And you know, maybe we should keep him. After all he is obviously both intelligent and verbose.
 

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Octorok said:
miracleofsound said:
bizzatronic said:
miracleofsound said:
bizzatronic said:
SHIT REVIEW U R WRONG DIE A LOT
Please try to express yourself with a little less aggression and hyperbole, there's a good newbie.
well basically no
and your not doctor cox, who is the only person ive ever seen who can say newbie without looking gay and shit.live with it, dick
Enjoy your ban, chum.
Ban? HA!

He won't get banned unless he gets a lot of reports, although even with the incredibly slipping standards on the Escapist, that kind of thing is still a banning offense.

And you know, maybe we should keep him. After all he is obviously both intelligent and verbose.
The Escapist's standards aren't slipping. Do not become the random, bugging nay-sayer.

He will be banned soon.
 

MiracleOfSound

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Octorok said:
miracleofsound said:
bizzatronic said:
miracleofsound said:
bizzatronic said:
SHIT REVIEW U R WRONG DIE A LOT
Please try to express yourself with a little less aggression and hyperbole, there's a good newbie.
well basically no
and your not doctor cox, who is the only person ive ever seen who can say newbie without looking gay and shit.live with it, dick
Enjoy your ban, chum.
Ban? HA!

He won't get banned unless he gets a lot of reports, although even with the incredibly slipping standards on the Escapist, that kind of thing is still a banning offense.

And you know, maybe we should keep him. After all he is obviously both intelligent and verbose.
Yes, his contributions have been astute and thought provoking indeed!