fallout 3 the pitt: who did you side with?(spoilers)

[Reincarnatedwolfgod]

I put my post in a spoiler

Spoiler

I did not kidnap the baby and I sided with ashur.

He is try to cure the trog mutation and he has some noble purpose behind his use of slaves. he wants to rebuild civilization in pittsburg. Probably so is child can live in a safer world. he want to find the cure so he can make slavery not needed in pittsburgh rebuild it.

In a world full of lazy asses who some how survived 200 years while doing jack shit to when it comes to finding a source of food, to getting clean water, and progressing society. no matter how morally questionable his methods are; at least Ashur is one of the few people who have the drive to do something in order progress society. I can respect that.

Werhner does not care about the slaves so how is he going to be any different then ashur. In fact he might be worst and it's better to leave people who understand science to handle making the cure for the trog mutation. I am under the impression Werhner just wants power and that sound worst then a. It seems better in the long run for pittsburgh to support ashur.

I found to be an easy decision from a logical point of view. I don't care about most ncp's in fallout 3 so the logical perspective what I mostly I have.

from a pure logic perspective the people in power who have guns and armor vs a bunch of slaves with crappy armor and a melee weapons. Supporting the stronger side is logical if you don't care about either group.

I my decision was based on half logic. the other half of the reason I supported him people in fallout 3 who who have the drive to progress society and achieve the goals that want to achieve are rare. That is the same way I play fallout 3. I Achieving any goals I can see a logical benefit to and Morality be damned.
Morality would mean something if the writing was strong enough to get me to care about the ncp's not caring about anyone kills my ability to care about the main story in fallout 3.
you can't fix shit writing in the base game with mods.

 

[Bayman]

Spoiler

Sided with Ashur since I played my characters as goody two-shoes, plus stealing the baby meant separating her from her parents by killing them.

 

[Muspelheim]

Well...

I eliminated the raider warlord Ashur and toppled the Pitt regime. For good and ill. I smudged Paradise Falls off the maps, it would have been terribly unfitting to not do the same with The Pitt.

Not to mention, I am sworn to eliminate raiders on sight, at all cost. I am a man of principle.

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110813205004/fallout/images/6/66/SneeringImperialist2.png

Of course, having to wear that nappy certainly didn't help, from a diplomatic point of view...
However, I'd like to think the babby was about as well off as possible, considering all the backstabbing raiders sharing her father's flat.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Spoiler

I killed the parents and took the girl, because slavery is Really Bad and because the noble cause they purported to serve did not excuse the vile treatment of the slaves. I agonized about it for a good ten to fifteen minutes though, because the rebellion really wasn't much better. One of the toughest ethical quandaries I've ever faced in a game.

 

[Reincarnatedwolfgod]

I smudged Paradise Falls off the maps

I did that but it was because I already had more money than I could spend and 3 dog kept on mention how I was associated with paradise falls on the radio.
A good reputation was worth more than the potential caps to gain at that point from a logical perspective.

I could just kill 3 dog instead but the game a bit less interesting without him. He is self righteous and annoying but that it's still better then than listening to someone complain about how 3 dog is dead.

 

[Ronald Nand]

I went with Ashur in the end as I felt that was the best outcome in the long run for the area. However it was a pretty morally gray decision for me, which annoyed me a bit especially when I got slugged with bad karma at the end when I felt a chose the lesser of two evils.

 

[Muspelheim]

I smudged Paradise Falls off the maps

I did that but it was because I already had more money than I could spend and 3 dog kept on mention how I was associated with paradise falls on the radio.
A good reputation was worth more than the potential caps to gain at that point from a logical perspective.

I could just kill 3 dog instead but the game a bit less interesting without him. He is self righteous and annoying but that it's still better then than listening to someone complain about how 3 dog is dead.

Oh, I loved Three Dawg. He was a bit of a boyscout leader, even for me, but I gladly fought his good fight. Although I doubt me leaving behind piles of "savages" was what he had in mind with the whole thing... I doubt my character really was the great hero Three Doge tried to portray him as.

I smoked Paradise Falls mainly because they were such dicks, on top of being slaver meanies. It was a good way to spend my surplus ammo and the more exotic weapons I had lying about.

I went with Ashur in the end as I felt that was the best outcome in the long run for the area. However it was a pretty morally gray decision for me, which annoyed me a bit especially when I got slugged with bad karma at the end when I felt a chose the lesser of two evils.

The karma is a bit odd in both F3 and NV, overall. I always resort to diplomacy that goes boom and leaves minced meat behind, but I usually end up with Messiah-levels of karma. I doubt that should count, really.

 

[Dies Irae]

Sided with Ashur. Werhner would've just led the Pitt into anarchy.

 

[Frezzato]

I think I somehow did both options in the same game session. What I mean is:

Spoiler

I stole the baby, killed the slavers (and subsequently, every slaver I ran across other than the guy who guards the entrance to The Pitt), and then I killed the guy who brought me to The Pitt in the first place. The reasoning was that nothing changed for the slaves in The Pitt no matter what I did, and the futility of it all (mixed with my anger at seeing how they hid some of the ingots) led me to realize that according to the confines of the game world, nothing I did ultimately mattered for the inhabitants of The Pitt. So as far as that DLC level was concerned, it was total anarchy, every man for himself, survival of the fittest, which in my case was me and my trusty alien Disruptor.

I believe I lost Karma for all of my actions at the end, but I had worked at being so good up until then that my status hadn't changed.