Fallout 3 world

[The Eggplant]

i agree with all your answers but I pose one conundrum:

In Fallout 3, Allistair Tenpenny claims he came from England to make his fortune. How did he get to the US? The only way one could live long enough to have access to a working plane or a boat with enough supplies to go solo from england to the US would have been to be a pre-war ghoul.

Also what confuses me is Moriarty's accent.

After 200 years I don't think anyone will have an accent that thick.

I've also read somewhere that Bethesda's intention was to have the game take 20 years after the bombs drop. Which would make lots of things in the game make more sense.

200 year old boxed food thats still edible? Yeah, I don't buy it.

fallout 3 is not canon and its best to pretend it doesn't exist.

why cant fallout 3 be cannon im not trying to sound like an ass i just really dont understand

Those dumb as fuck super-mutants, thats why. They were just thrown in to be enemies, and never properly expanded upon....well, thats just one reason on a big list.

Didn't you do the main quest? It was pretty much explained were they cam from.

Yeah, but to be fair (and I say his as someone who has played and enjoyed ALL of the Fallout games, and who considers them ALL to be canon), what ISN'T really explained is how the super mutants, who were by and large solely a product of the first Fallout's Master, managed to spontaneously show up on the East Coast. They were in the third game largely as a nod to fans of the series rather than for any canon-sensible reason.

 

[Danny Ocean]

Is it ever made clear whether or not the entire world is effected by the nuclear death of the US or if the rest of the world is dead too. If the world is still alive, why is no one helping us?

Even if the rest of the world was fine, why would we help?

 

[Sronpop]

The Irish would still be there, we can survive apocalyptic amounts of alcohol. A bit of nuclear fallout is nothing to us. We are used to shit weather too. In the end of days only cockroaches and the Irish will survive.

 

[ShakesZX]

fallout 3 is not canon and its best to pretend it doesn't exist.

Says who? From my understanding, and by all records I have found, Fallout 3 IS canon. That "Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel" game, and it's sequel, are the only confirmed non-canon games I have found proof of.

OP: Everywhere's been decimated.

Also, Tenpenny could've found a boat to bring him here. After all, there was a boat to take you to point Lookout, and it seems that New Vegas has been doing alright for itself.

 

[Orcus The Ultimate]

Is it ever made clear whether or not the entire world is effected by the nuclear death of the US or if the rest of the world is dead too. If the world is still alive, why is no one helping us?

"the ENTIRE WORLD WAS REDUCED TO CINDERS" - intro of fallout 1. there is your answer. /thread.

I disagree not the entire world....

 

[spectrenihlus]

i agree with all your answers but I pose one conundrum:

In Fallout 3, Allistair Tenpenny claims he came from England to make his fortune. How did he get to the US? The only way one could live long enough to have access to a working plane or a boat with enough supplies to go solo from england to the US would have been to be a pre-war ghoul.

Also what confuses me is Moriarty's accent.

After 200 years I don't think anyone will have an accent that thick.

I've also read somewhere that Bethesda's intention was to have the game take 20 years after the bombs drop. Which would make lots of things in the game make more sense.

200 year old boxed food thats still edible? Yeah, I don't buy it.

fallout 3 is not canon and its best to pretend it doesn't exist.

why cant fallout 3 be cannon im not trying to sound like an ass i just really dont understand

Those dumb as fuck super-mutants, thats why. They were just thrown in to be enemies, and never properly expanded upon....well, thats just one reason on a big list.

Didn't you do the main quest? It was pretty much explained were they cam from.

Yeah, but to be fair (and I say his as someone who has played and enjoyed ALL of the Fallout games, and who considers them ALL to be canon), what ISN'T really explained is how the super mutants, who were by and large solely a product of the first Fallout's Master, managed to spontaneously show up on the East Coast. They were in the third game largely as a nod to fans of the series rather than for any canon-sensible reason.

It may have been a nod but it was still done in a fashion that made it believable

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Super_mutant#East_Coast_mutants

 

[octafish]

Those dumb as fuck super-mutants, thats why. They were just thrown in to be enemies, and never properly expanded upon....well, thats just one reason on a big list.

Feral ghouls are what bugged me the most, they undercut the whole ghoulism pathos. Why are you so mean to those ghouls? Oh they invariably go feral and eat people? Kill 'em all, damn zombies. Stupid move.

 

[Guitar Gamer]

I say since Australia (though no doubt a great nation) doesn't really get that involved in giant wars............well look at this I like to think that Canada would be drastically different due to the different climate and wildlife.............and all that fresh water would provoke someone to purify it...........I mean if project Purity was the first time I'd be kinda disappointed.

 

[llafnwod]

It only takes the radiation of ten nukes to destroy the whole world, so even if it started in America, it would quickly spread worldwide and destroy Eastern countries.

What? The number of nuclear weapons tests that have been conducted to date exceeds that figure by two orders of magnitude.

As has been stated, and as cursory research will quickly reveal, the entire world was heavily affected by the war. Some places may have received less fallout than others, and some are making major strides towards rebuilding (the best known example being the NCR), but no power is in good enough shape to help or threaten anyone outside their immediate sphere of influence.

 

[Jfswift]

Is it ever made clear whether or not the entire world is effected by the nuclear death of the US or if the rest of the world is dead too. If the world is still alive, why is no one helping us?

Remember the android from the commonwealth? There are other colonies however technology is in such bad shape that communication is difficult at best. (that's a good point though, who knows maybe they'll expand out if the next fallout sells well)

 

[NEVRINx54]

you have to realize that (i wld assume) the world split during the "war" ... the democratic nations verse the communist nations, so... once one nuke went off it cause a massive chain reaction...

 

[Kurokami]

Well, China did not invade after it and no other nation came to aid the people effected by WWIII so It's safe to assume all nations were wiped out.

Incidentally, I played the game in Russian originally, gave it a completely different feel from "US got fucked" to "Holy shit, Russia invaded the US!"

It was excellent.

 

[spectrenihlus]

Don't forget Colin Moriarty who moved to DC from Ireland.

 

[TheGreatCoolEnergy]

i agree with all your answers but I pose one conundrum:

In Fallout 3, Allistair Tenpenny claims he came from England to make his fortune. How did he get to the US? The only way one could live long enough to have access to a working plane or a boat with enough supplies to go solo from england to the US would have been to be a pre-war ghoul.

Not nessecarily; the Enclave have the vertibirds afterall; he easily could have just lucked out and found some old English tech

 

[neoman10]

you have to realize that (i wld assume) the world split during the "war" ... the democratic nations verse the communist nations, so... once one nuke went off it cause a massive chain reaction...

just want to say that Communism and democracy aren't mutual exclusive, Trotskyism FTW


OT: I really never thought about it, I guessed everyone turned to dust and all nationalities kind of faded away. meh, all well

 

[Zackary Yakumo]

Well nothing says yay or nay to this question, so i think the leave t to the players imagination. but, like others have said, im pretty nsure if a nation was still alive and they didnt hear nything about america they would have checked it out. I know i would have.

 

[spectrenihlus]

Well if you remember the picture of earth from mothership zeta...

 

[Oomii]

Well sense the U.S. nuked China and China nuked the U.S. That Fallout from all that would though the world into nuclear winter, and thats assuming it was only America and China, so yeah whole world go boom.

 

[AllLagNoFrag]

Is it ever made clear whether or not the entire world is effected by the nuclear death of the US or if the rest of the world is dead too. If the world is still alive, why is no one helping us?

no body knows, accept for the occasional chinese soldier that seems to have sprung up. It's part of the mythos.

However, it's a good bet that the rest of the world was laid waste too. I can't imagine that there wouldn't have been a peace keeping force, or at the very least, a foreign nation sending in task forces to steal Vault-tec and other military technologies from the United States.

Exactly, and how some people did not make it into the vault (or afford a spot) and had to stay outside and suffer ghoulification. You would think they would have at least went to a safe haven in some unaffected country. My question is, did every country have its collection of vaults and fair share of vault hunters? I know Japan would have advanced vaults etc etc but, what about some countries with really high poverty rates? Did they have no vaults and the whole population wiped out/ ghoulified? Hmmm...

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

why cant fallout 3 be cannon im not trying to sound like an ass i just really dont understand

Because it regularly violates established lore for the most part. There is plenty about the game that quite simply doesn't make a bit of sense, and much of it revolves around the timeline.

In fallout 1, a few decades after the war, the world is similar to what we see in fallout 3 - settlments stratching out a miserable existance from the ashes and so on. Fallout 2 takes place two generations later (you play as the grandchild of the vault dweller you played in the first game) and the world has altered dramatically. There are once again working cities and towns and a functioning society is present.

Additionally, certain bits are utterly out of place. The FEV, the true source of super-mutants, was the result of a terribly secret project on the west coast that was interrupted by nuclear holocaust. How did it end up on the east coast?

The Brotherhood never had the resources to police more than their local strongholds - the only long distance expedition was born out of a desire to get rid of dissenters by sending them on a suicide mission and that only made it as far as Chicago. Am I to believe that they exhausted the technology of all the vaults between california and DC?

The Enclave were all but cannonically destroyed by the events of Fallout 2 and yet they reappear to play the bogeyman in Fallout 3 somehow.