Fallout 4 Teaser Sites Broadcasts Ominous New Message

Therumancer

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Then again Mr.House had very little faith in the political system. I also assume that we will be seein th second revolutionary war in boston
It doesn't seem likely, what we know about "The Commonwealth" right now is that they have a very sophisticated caste of androids that can pass as humans and are apparently acting as a servant class and not all of them are happy with that. At the same time however at least some Androids are at least trusted enough to hunt other androids, and also have the authority and knowledge to barter technology and perform complex surgery. The Androids you meet in Fallout 3 being able to reward you with a cybernetic implant for quest completion.

I can't see this being overlooked if they are going there, and it doesn't seem like much of a set up for a "revolutionary war" as there is nobody to really revolt against, especially seeing as The Enclave is more or less gone, and was really only a big deal for about 15 minutes in the scheme of things. I suppose they could make civil war analogies if the entire thing comes about deciding to free androids or leave them as slaves.... they already have an underground railroad analogy going in Fallout 3 given what your told by a random NPC trying to get you to drop the
quest (who is also an android if you gun them down).

Of course given the Fallout/Wasteland school of thought involving AIs and how technology tends to work out, I'd imagine if they go there, it won't be straightforward. I could easily see this entire thing combined with a "Rise Of The Machines" type concept where your basically put into a situation where if you free the enslaved androids they will inevitably turn on inferior organic life, meaning that the evil android enslavers are actually doing what they do out
of self preservation with the technological cat being out of the bag so to speak. A much bigger and more elaborate version of the whole "Tenpenny Tower" quest where they set you up to side with a bunch of ghouls against bigoted, stuck up humans, only to find that while the humans might have been jerks, the ghouls were murderous bastards, and the humans were right since as soon as you let the ghouls in they kill all the humans and take over. :)

At any rate, it will be interesting to see where it goes if that is the location. As much as I love speculation, I am having a hard time really getting excited because as I said... we're just now seeing teasers leading up to an announcement of some kind. Unless they are breaking the usual format of a slow burn release, with them announcing "we're now making the game", it's going to be a huge amount of time before we actually have a game. With the morse code I'm half expecting that what we're going to see is an ARG leading up to some trailers or whatever.
 

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The Androids you meet in Fallout 3 being able to reward you with a cybernetic implant for quest completion.
The only person who rewards you with a cybernetic implant is Zimmer, and he is not an android.

People really need to stop pushing that conspiracy theory.
 

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First countdown ended... site went down. Must be loading up the next part.

This is new:

KVNGR REV ALPHA PPS VT PIZ UHMYLPVOQ CM XHWMZP. NBJB SPI'F BYQS QT D'Y BYFGEOB FI VQDYL MAQ. -NGQHT 5120- Nuclear winter has come

Any ideas?
KVNGR = Keyed Vignere, Rev Alpha= Reverse Alphabet, PPS VT= Passphrase vaulttec.
Using this decryption keys, the text becomes:

"THE INSTITUTE IS SEALED. THEY WON'T HELP US I'M HEADING TO BLACK ROW. -TBNLS 5120-"
 

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"THE INSTITUTE IS SEALED. THEY WON'T HELP US I'M HEADING TO BLACK ROW. -TBNLS 5120-"
I bet they mean MIT with that, especially when you combine that line with the rumor that Bethesda was scoping out the Boston and MIT area a while ago.

Now, that combined with the morse code message about Vault 119 near Quabbin, which is near Boston, gave me the idea to compare the distance between Quabbin and MIT to Springfield and Washington DC from Fallout 3, which were almost the edges of the map, to get a possible sense of scale of the map we'll get in Fallout 4. Results as posted on Reddit in that huge thread by my partner [http://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1ruucj/the_survivor_2299_hype_and_speculation_megathread/cdr6ukj]:




Of course this is just a rough guess, but even for a rough guess we can see that the difference is huge. A map around, and maybe more, than twice the size of Fallout 3? Oh my.

Now of course, fingers crossed that it'll be (A) A loading-screen-less area, and (B) There'll be enough cool stuff to explore.
 

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A map around, and maybe more, than twice the size of Fallout 3?
Doubtful, if anything, it will be just twice as compressed as Fallout 3's map.

There is a point where after making a world so large, it just becomes utter crap, and the copy-paste that is required for games this large gets so out of hand it becomes more detrimental to make it bigger. Oblivion, Fallout 3, New Vegas, and Skyrim, were all roughly the same size, around 16 square miles, and I don't see Fo4 being any "bigger", as they already push the limit with acceptable copy-paste with those games.
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Also. your map is terribly deceptive.

-Going from Rivet City to the other side of Fallout 3's map, in a straight line, is around 61 real world miles.
-The Washington Naval Yards(where Rivet City is located) is 44.5 miles away from Warrenton, or Warrington station in Fallout 3.
-Fallout 3's map is a 51X51 grid of squares organized into a 17X17 grid of larger squares.
-Warrington is 37 squares away from Rivet City
-If 37 of those squares = 44.5 real world miles, then 51 squares = 61 miles.
-MIT is 61.7 miles away from Quabbin, if you go in a perfectly straight line.
-assuming that MIT and Quabbi nare on the extreme edges of the map, then Fallout 4's map should be the exact same size as Fallout 3's.
 

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Actually, when I use this map [http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081126235053/fallout/images/2/21/Map1.jpg] of Fallout 3 I come up on around 22 miles between Travilah and the Washington Monument. Quite a difference with 65 miles.

Of course, yes, that's assuming the Fallout 4 locations are on the edges on the map. It's mostly to get a sense of scale, and it's still a rough guess. I just find it slightly unlikely that they'd make a fuss about both MIT and Vault 119, which would be near Quabbin, and not include both locations in the game.

On a sidenote, the Reddit thread [http://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1rv24f/the_survivor_2299_hype_and_speculation_megathread/?sort=new] on this whole spiel is way too much fun. The hype train just keeps on going.
 

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Actually, when I use this map [http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081126235053/fallout/images/2/21/Map1.jpg] of Fallout 3
That is a terrible map because it overlays the in-game map with a real world version of Washington, without adjusting for scaling.

This is a more accurate map to show the distance between Rivet city and warrington

aka these two locations
 

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deathstar2Razor said:
CarnageRacing00 said:
First countdown ended... site went down. Must be loading up the next part.

This is new:

KVNGR REV ALPHA PPS VT PIZ UHMYLPVOQ CM XHWMZP. NBJB SPI'F BYQS QT D'Y BYFGEOB FI VQDYL MAQ. -NGQHT 5120- Nuclear winter has come

Any ideas?
KVNGR = Keyed Vignere, Rev Alpha= Reverse Alphabet, PPS VT= Passphrase vaulttec.
Using this decryption keys, the text becomes:

"THE INSTITUTE IS SEALED. THEY WON'T HELP US I'M HEADING TO BLACK ROW. -TBNLS 5120-"
I am assuming the "Passphrase vaulttec" tells you which reverse alphabet to use and how, because if you just reverse the alphabet you don't get that "Institute is sealed" message.

Simply reversing the alphabet gets you "KRA" as the first word, and the symbol for the letter 'e' keeps changing, even within the words.
 

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Alorxico said:
deathstar2Razor said:
CarnageRacing00 said:
First countdown ended... site went down. Must be loading up the next part.

This is new:

KVNGR REV ALPHA PPS VT PIZ UHMYLPVOQ CM XHWMZP. NBJB SPI'F BYQS QT D'Y BYFGEOB FI VQDYL MAQ. -NGQHT 5120- Nuclear winter has come

Any ideas?
KVNGR = Keyed Vignere, Rev Alpha= Reverse Alphabet, PPS VT= Passphrase vaulttec.
Using this decryption keys, the text becomes:

"THE INSTITUTE IS SEALED. THEY WON'T HELP US I'M HEADING TO BLACK ROW. -TBNLS 5120-"
I am assuming the "Passphrase vaulttec" tells you which reverse alphabet to use and how, because if you just reverse the alphabet you don't get that "Institute is sealed" message.

Simply reversing the alphabet gets you "KRA" as the first word, and the symbol for the letter 'e' keeps changing, even within the words.
http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/vigenere-keyed.php

if you apply reverse alphabet, and put vaulttec as the passphrase, it works. i don't know how, i just know it does xD
 

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Hi! My first post, but I saw this and have been watching the site regularly. The new message is accompanied by a new Morse code message as well: cq cq cq de vt 119 sos lvl4 und attk os is dead ii sos lvl4 attk os is dead we wnt mk ie

CQ as we know is "calling any station".

de vt 119:
This I don't know. DE is Delaware, but it's probably not that. VT 119, I suspect that's probably going to be Vault 119.

sos lvl4 und attk os is dead ii sos lvl4 attk os is dead:
We know ii is repeat and as we can see, it's an SOS. OS, my best guess would be the Overseer, the person in charge of the vault. So, Vault 119 is under attack, the boss is dead.

we wnt mk ie.:
We want, they want something. Now, MK usually means mark, like a version or series of something... It can also mean "Master Key". Then again it can mean mercy killing... o_O ie is a little more difficult, it can mean a LOT of things. One thing that I have seen, is "Idle End", perhaps signaling that they are idling, waiting for response, maybe, maybe not. I didn't find it or MK as radio jargon.

Just an educated guess, still thinking about it.

Edit: Made correction.

Edit2: E is a dit, T is a dah (dash). we wnt mk ie, is quite possibly "We Won't Make It."
As well, the events of Fallout 3 were in 2277 and New Vegas occurred in 2281. The year for this, as suggested by the URL, is 2299. This makes me wonder, who is invading a vault???
 

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If this is a hoax holy crap I want to buy the guy a beer. I could definently see a new Fallout coming out. Seeing as Bethesda 'finished' with Skyrim quite some time ago. The Elder Scrolls series is likely on halt ith the MMO coming out. Next few months would be a perfect time for a new Fallout.

I'm predicting: Fallout 4, ESO launch then new dishonored or new EP.
 

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if you apply reverse alphabet, and put vaulttec as the passphrase, it works. i don't know how, i just know it does xD
It basically works the way that it takes every letter of your passphrasea transforms it into a numerical value depending on its position in the alphabet (a=1, b=2 etc.) and then does the same to the whole message and to encode it adds these numerical values preiodically (basically if n is the length of the word then evry n-th letter has the same thing added on) after this it puts it back into the jumble of letters you see above and to decode it just reverses the process (substracts). I was thinking we would have to do frequency analysis on the ciphre to decode it but that probably wouldn't work since the message is too short (and you would have to divide the message into eight parts and use frequency analysis on every single part and that just wouldn't be feasible now, would it? :D
 

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Well, looks like this morning we are gifted with yet again, a new Morse code message; it's just continuing on:

clg br otst gx is sf tl lvl 4 bre n srv 899 crps we lvg vt 119 kn
 

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If this is a hoax holy crap I want to buy the guy a beer...
If you run a whois on the domain, it'll show it's ZeniMax Media Inc. It'll also provide the IP which, if you look it up, shows to be out of Baltimore, Maryland, is attached to the correct domain and is listed under a type of Corporate. I don't think it's a hoax, if it is, this is like the worst prank ever!
 

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If you run a whois on the domain, it'll show it's ZeniMax Media Inc. It'll also provide the IP which, if you look it up, shows to be out of Baltimore, Maryland, is attached to the correct domain and is listed under a type of Corporate. I don't think it's a hoax, if it is, this is like the worst prank ever!
Its laughably easy to fake a whois page details.

Also, the website was registered via godaddy.com, whereas Zenimax uses an entirely different company for literally every other website they have made.
 

Therumancer

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SajuukKhar said:
Therumancer said:
The Androids you meet in Fallout 3 being able to reward you with a cybernetic implant for quest completion.
The only person who rewards you with a cybernetic implant is Zimmer, and he is not an android.

People really need to stop pushing that conspiracy theory.
I'm pretty sure he is, I seem to remember pulling android parts off of both him and his 'bodyguard' after killing them.