Fallout New Vegas: Why all the hate?

[fleischwolke]

I really like FNV, and it's at least on par with FO3 in my opinion. The only thing I missed was a large crumbling city to explore.

 

[MgsTheFury]

I can tell you one thing. I love it more then fallout 3!

 

[RaikuFA]

i liked NV's story and atmosphere more than 3's but damn the bugs. my game just refused to work.

 

[Jimmybobjr]

Theres a large ammount of hate on Vegas?

I certanly didnt notice. i remember people complaining about the bugs, but i dont think anyone said anything about it being bad...

Did they?

 

[the_Origin]

I think NV has more potential to be a better game than FO3 the faction/companions were a great addition, and the nerfs to some of the combat makes the game challenging all around.

The issue is that I have started the game up three different times, played ten hours then encountered a game ending bug, that reverting to an old save file couldn't fix. Due to that, NV really pisses me off, but that is fixable with patches i suppose...

 

[RipperSU]

I also preferred NV to 3 due to it's more imaginative storyline, characters and more varied settings. I do however think the game deserves all the flak it receives from a technical standpoint. Towards the end of the game, it was crashing every hour or so for me.

 

[Vandenberg1]

WEELLLLLLL.... for a game to claim it was bigger then FO3 was absolute lying bullsh**.. It was maybe bigger a little on the map but THERE WAS NOTHING THEREEEE. Seriously, one can travel in FO3 and ALWAYS find something new to explore or some quarky little plot point that had nothing to do with story. Vegas Had a better story becasue you could change it, but the combat scene in the end was NOTHING compared to Prime kicking ASS. The glitches almost killed the game for me, een the Expantion pack was unplayable for a week untill a patch came out letting GET PASSED THE FUC**** well with Dog..or god..FO3 was a better game in my opinion.

 

[GameMaNiAC]

Fallout 3 was a good game, but I've always loved New Vegas more. It has much more player freedom and choice than Fallout 3. FO3 had a much better post-apocalyptic atmosphere, though.

 

[Jamboxdotcom]

I've never seen anyone who liked it better than Fallout 3.

Let me be the umpteenth. I loved F3, but i liked NV much more. 1) As mentioned, canonicity. 2) Greater variety of choice in terms of main story path. (Granted, some might argue that the physical path had less variety, but that didn't really bother me. The first 2 games were much the same.) 3) Lots of nice improvements, like the crafting and modding systems. 4) Slightly better (in my opinion) story and dialogue.

Again, though, don't take that as bashing on F3, because i loved F3, aside from the abomination that was Motheship Zeta. God i hate that DLC. And i hate the fact that when it comes to Fallout games, i'm a completionist...

 

[JoJo]

I think both had their own merits, my opinion as abreivated as possible:

Fallout New Vegas had: more engaging overall storyline, more interesting factions and surroundings, fairer difficulty if played on hardcore mode, more large places to visit,

Fallout 3 had: better atmosphere and player character, deeper immerision, larger map, less boring NPCs you couldn't speak to, a more useful town for being based in (Megaton)

Overall I prefer NV but it's a close match, they are both among my top 5 favourite games ever.

 

[triggrhappy94]

I liked it, probably just as much as Fallout 3. Well 3 had a bit of a surprise hit with me, and the story was a bit better. NV just has the hype pay off aspect, at least for me.

People don't like the newer Fallouts (3 and NV), because they seem like sell outs. Giving up the birds eye view 3rd person camera work for FPS. People also call it a full price expansion pack. I don't think that's neccesarily fair. There's a lot of new stuff, new locations, a new full length story, and new characters. There's even a different developer.
Its not completely different, but it does more than other sequals.

 

[superdelux]

Yeah it seems a lot of bugs took 1.5 points from all those 8.5s, Personally I loved vanilla New Vegas more than a GOTY-modded-the-shit-out-of-it Fallout 3.

And for all those who disagree beat New Vegas then FO3 again and tell me which was more fun.

 

[Wolfram23]

What hate? I've rarely if ever seen someone throw hate at it. At worst people say it's a copy and paste, or a worse version, of FO3. Which is still pretty good...

Anyway I quite liked it. I also didn't experience a lot of bugs (PC version).

 

[Nerdstar]

i personal loved fallout:new Vegas and thought it was a great game (bugs not withstanding) but i also loved fo3 as well, there both great games on par with the originals despite what others might say(played 1,2, and tactics WAAAAAYY back in the day)but there very different games in some respects and both do certain things better than the other and worse. they both have good continuity with nods to the originals (like when in Vegas i found the wearck of the highwaymen,that made me smile)the companion system was done better in new Vegas(the wheel, and generally there backstroys and how the endings affected them, with the possible exception of dog meat and Fawkes)however fo3 was easier to travel (and I'm not talking about the wandering deathclaws or cazadoras that will rape you if you at a low level and or unprepared i was sort of OK with that it kept me on my toes and made hunting them fun, i remember doing the quarry mission and had mines laid out everywhere and sniping them with a varmint rifle form the ridge and than lobing grenades at them from the ridge as they ran over my mines and the when the survivors got close i pulled out my shotgun and got stuck in with some good old fashioned CQC,that was fun but most of the time i died a horrible painful death)i mean where fo3 was mostly flat and easy to traverse fonv had more hills and mountains than I'm really comfortable with especially when it looks like you can climb it but when toy get high enough you stop moving or moved like molasses but eventually got over it or just moved like molasses but never got over the hill as it dangled an illusion of mobility in front of you(cant tell you how many times i thought i could get to a place doing this only to find i cant and then spend forever going around trying to find a way to get it)

and to answer why there are no trees in the capital wasteland(aside from the oasis) D.C was probably hit harder than most places(if not the hardest) where as new vegas got off relatively light with only a few bombs which allowed the mountains and the general shrubbery to survive add to that possible FEV contamination

 

[rosac]

I love new vegas. Why? because punching giant lizards to death never gets old.

and... modable weapons

and... true iron sights

and... a cooler story start.

however, the lack of 3 dog is disapointing.

 

[Tentickles]

I loved both games equally. They both had their pros and cons but in the end were fantastic games to play through. For being games of today they did a pretty good job of paying homage to the originals.

I enjoyed the fact they didnt skips out on the deep and immoral storylines. As in the Novac quest in FNV or the Slavers quest in F3. There's some pretty deep commentary there on life in the wasteland.

 

[sofareal]

I love both games, but I'd think I'd prefer Fo3 slightly over FNV, only for the increased immersion, there was something personally gripping about starting my game and knowing that the character that I will be playing (for the next 100+ hours) as is (digitally) being born. Now only if the lone wanderer landed in the west coast, then we can get the best of both worlds (they had a vertibird in the end of FO3,well broken steel, in theory could happen)

 

[Ace of Spades]

I honestly don't know. I thought New Vegas was better than Fallout 3. I admit NV was less immersive, but it was also much better paced, and had a better variety of guns and other implements of murder. In 3, once I got A3-21's plasma rifle, I never used anything else, and literally every encounter was just, press v, click on the head a few times and watch the resulting fountain of gore.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

3 was a good game, but a bad Fallout game.

This sums it up pretty well.

F3 is my favourite game of all time and I prefer it to New Vegas by quite a margin, but even I can see that New Vegas is a far better sequel to the originals and more closer in tone to them.

 

[Eomega123]

I think New Vegas was really fun...but those DAMN GLITCHES! I can barely bring myself to play the game thanks to the glitches and extreme loading times.