Fallout New Vegas: Why all the hate?

[Greatjusticeman]

New Vegas was miles better than Fallout 3.

Those only reason it's panned is because of all the bugs that came with it. Had Obsidian made a non-buggy game, their reputation would've improved.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

I loved New Vegas in a lot of ways. The story, the setting and the characters simply worked and fit better in the Fallout mold than fallout 3 did by a long stretch. But the game also did it's best to make me hate it. From regular crashes to desktop (averaging around one per hour though the problem is most commonly linked to cell transition so this could be stretched if I spent a lot of time in one place. Traversing Vegas itself was like playing Russian Roulette in this regard all while pushing my luck), to glitches that forced me to load a save made hours prior in order to progress the game was just a technical mess. It is, quite literally, the buggiest game I have ever bothered playing to completion. Which is a shame because it really is an incredible experience.

 

[John the Gamer]

I like it, but I would have prefered Fallout 3 with the new features of New Vegas(Iron Sights etc)

I still play it a lot, but my frequent crasher card is getting full, so I'll have to go cash in on my points and catch a flight to tahiti or som... I might have gotten that wrong......

And btw. There's a mod that allows you to connect the two games; (...)

I just spend half an hour searching but now I'm bored. It's somewhere here: http://www.newvegasnexus.com/

And allows you to travel from the mojave to the capital wasteland and back.

EDIT: Oh, wait, here it is; http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=41480

 

[Tuesday Night Fever]

I'm asking because recently I was on a website and every other comment after "When does Old World Blues come out?" was "FNV sucks!" or "F3 was so much better!" which got me wondering, why? It is, when u get down to it, a F3 expansion pack. Same engine, same character creator, even some of the same enemies. Personally, I love both games and will enjoy playing them until they get off their asses about Fallout Online. So, my fellow Escapist, can anyone tell me why FNV gathered some much ire from people?

I don't understand the hate either, camrulez. I loved New Vegas, and I was apparently one of only a handful of people who encounted no bugs whatsoever.

Personally, I thought Fallout 3 was the weakest of the main-series games. That's not to say I thought it was bad... weakest of the main series still places it well above-average for games-in-general, in my personal opinion. It just didn't have any characters I felt particularly attached to (except Harold, and even then, a very minor character in the game), I didn't feel any sense of urgency whatsoever from the game's main plot (wandered around visiting every single location before bothering with the story... zero consequence despite all the times they imply that time is of the essence), the original ending was downright stupid (especially considering I had a Super Mutant as a companion), they took a ton of liberties with the Brotherhood of Steel... I dunno. The game was fun, but there was enough stuff that, to me, detracted from the experience to make it not feel quite as Fallout-y as the rest of the main series.

To each their own, I guess.

I'm eagerly awaiting Old World Blues too. It wasn't this Tuesday, so hopefully next Tuesday. /sigh.

 

[RA92]

New Vegas got both the setting and aesthetics of the Fallout franchise way better than Fallout 3. NV's player-driven narrative was light years ahead of FO3's.

 

[Brandon237]

Fallout NV was AWESOME!
It had so much more in weapons, mods, choices, plot-lines than Fallout: 3. I think that 3 had a nicer wasteland, but that is it, for the rest New Vegas for the win. It was a good game with so many options that kept me playing for many many hours.

 

[Captain Underbeard]

Because it was awfully buggy, and still is. No game should crash that much.

Which is a pity, because I really, really enjoyed FNV until I got to New Vegas and the game crashed every half hour :-(

 

[GiantRaven]

However, aesthetically, Fallout 3 had more going for it.

Yeah, that shapeless dark green mess of a wasteland was so much more aesthetically pleasing than the nice bright (and varied) colours of the Mojave. New Vegas has so much more than Fallout 3 aesthetically, simply because it does a wider variety of visuals and scenes.

 

[Laser Priest]

People say that Fallout 3 was more atmospheric.

Also, people on the internet have the ability to be total idiots who take the slightest opinion to the extreme.

Personally, I agree that Fallout 3 was more atmospheric in some ways (primarily, it felt like more of a wasteland), but New Vegas was more atmospheric in others (Felt more lively and wasn't entirely in shades of green) and generally better in every way.

 

[Canid117]

People say that Fallout 3 was more atmospheric.

Also, people on the internet have the ability to be total idiots who take the slightest opinion to the extreme.

Personally, I agree that Fallout 3 was more atmospheric in some ways, but New Vegas was more atmospheric in others and generally better in every way.

Also it was less grey. The color scheme got a little old after a while.

 

[Outright Villainy]

I thought New Vegas was the far superior game. Not in terms of craft; Fallout 3 had more visually interesting exploration and was less buggy. But in every other regard- every other regard, New Vegas was far superior. Stat building, story, dialogue, voice acting, quests...

Everything.

 

[Jaeke]

FO:NV to FO3 was like DA2 to DA1.Sure New Vegas had new stuff but once you got it, there was nothing else. The Mojave was just a big damn sandbox to blow stuff up. Yeah there was factions but not really anything as rewarding as just killing them and taking their stuff. FO3 had a much more interesting landscape, a big desert with the occasional mountains is just boring. New Vegas's story was crap compared to FO3. FO3 you get to see the life of your character from birth the escape from the vault. Idk who the hell my courier was before he got shot from some random i guy i just kill later. The courier had no meaning or connection to me compared to my Vault Dweller. New stuff doesnt mean its better. Its just a classic case of sacrificing story for gameplay.

 

[Syphous]

I loved Fallout 3. I scoured every inch of the world three times. Now I love New Vegas. I'm in the middle of my third play-through.

New Vegas is better than Fallout 3, but not by leaps and bounds like some people seem to think it is. I think it's just a good sequel, building upon what already existed without changing the game completely.

I give both games an enthusiastic thumbs up, and recommend them both to anyone who asks if they're any good.

 

[Jaeke]

And to talk about atmosphere.... you're really gonna tell me that New Vegas is more interesting and colorful than D.C. ive been to D.C. and to go and walk to landmarks ive seen in real life in a post-apocolyptic setting was so much more thrilling than 3 little square areas with only about 2 buildings that were interesting. New Vegas city was pathetic. The strip was awful. Megaton, even The Pitt had more compelling areas/buildings.... Sunnyside(? forgot name) was just a couple of streets with the occasional thug that is the only thing worth the bullet i spend shooting his head off. all in all the atmosphere of New Vegas pales in comparison to D.C.

 

[Cobblerfiend]

right away: i did not read all the posts so be forgiving if im behind on this

i love FNV so much more than FO3 mostly because it forces me to specialize more, cant become a do all character late game

 

[Jaeke]

Really i think we should all look forward to Skyrim. An amazing Skyrim means a OMFG BOOM Fallout 4

 

[5t3v0]

I do hope that Bethesda will hire a great deal of Obsidian for Fallout 4 (I.e. The writing staff and the game designers and balancers... If the Programmers get a bit more practice they can come along too) Or Bethesda just Buys obsidian. They know how the story goes. They could probably ret-con Fallout 3 into canon properly too, which I wouldn't mind.

Oh, and before you guys think Im a Fallout 3 hater, I'm not. I just despise ignorance. After I found myself free-falling on the Fallout wiki, I found myself liking the original story arc than what Bethesda had one in Fallout 3. Fallout 3 was the only one that I had played, so I got myself a copy of Fallout 1 and 2 and played them for a while. Didn't finish it though, as I started playing something else for a while, but If I havent lost my save games, Im going to try and finish it.

 

[Wyatt118]

Hater's gonna Hate.

 

[Orange643]

Fallout 3 had so many plotholes it could have been written by George Lucas.

 

[doomboy29]

I liked FalloutNV because i could literally kill every single person i met. In Fallout 3? Nope. You have to deal with this essential npc bullshit. Also. Little Fucking Lamplight.