DAAANtheMAAAN said:
Alright to finish this up I'll say this much.
I have played quite a bit of TOR, and the basic plan is to create new characters or modify old ones and then add the changes into the game, with most evidence towards the creation of new characters. Technically any addition or change would count as a "content update" which is just a semantic term for any time they add something new to the game. Whether they hire new actors, or have additional dialogue recorded "in character" for existing characters, or whatever else, the bottom line when all is said and done that every player playing ToR has to have homosexuals on their ship and vocally interested in their character. How it's inserted, and what the quality is, is kind of irrelevent to that entire situation. If your grossed out by the idea, but don't nessicarly oppose it in any militant form, tough crap, you pretty much HAVE to deal with it for the sake of a tiny group of people who actually want it.
When it comes to political pressure it's important to understand that while the nation is polarized right now, the left wing controls most of the media despite left wingers wanting to deny this. Simply put threats or campaigning from conservative groups don't amount to much despite their points of view accounting for roughtly 50% of the population don't matter that much because they can't actually do much to hurt distribution or generate bad press. Really, one of the reasons why you see so much religious garbage coming from the right wing even if it's a small percentage within it is that religious groups are one of the few right wing elements that maintain enough media power to be heard. Churches that run their own radio stations, TV studios, and/or have long standing contracts with networks to broadcast before a lot of these issues ever started. A religious leader can get a point of view heard on a wider scale (even if mild compared to liberal media control) than someone within the right wing who isn't acting from that position.
The basic point is that if gays threaten a company with support from the left wing media, right or wrong, they can generate a LOT of bad press, and tons of people will hear how bigoted the company is even if it's not true with little opposition. If some religious group like the one that started this thread does... well, they aren't going to reach all that many people overall, they are barely even in a position to have their objections heard to begin with. That's why you see Bioware caving to liberally driven gay demands, as opposed to the one, fairly powerless sector of the opposition that can make itself heard on the matter to any extent.
Not to mention that when you get down to it the conservatives that being heard here are the kinds of radicals who would probably want Bioware out of business on general principle, if they did anything but create interactive bible games or whatever. The gay rights movement might be just as wrong here, but once pandered to they aren't going to keep pushing to knock them out of business.
The more reasonable, non-religiously driven, right wing majority like me, well we aren't a factor because we don't have the media power to be heard an any large scale, we pretty much write message boards like this to make our noise, and sadly few of us bother to come into hotbeds of opposition like I do to express their viewpoints as opposed to engaging in a lot of back patting in friendlier enviroments.
As far as the gay/lesbian thing goes, I won't get into it in detail, but as I mentioned it's more pervy than hypocritical. I just haven't gone into a full run down on homosexuality and what I think of it in general. In short I do not define "homosexuals" as all being the same thing, men and women are differant, and gays and lesbians are differant. One of the problems with dealing with the "gay rights movement", compiling statistics, and setting fair policies is specifically that people lump it all together as opposed to dealing with gays and lesbians as two entirely differant issues, with two very differant outlooks, subcultures, and behavior patterns, that are rarely allied for anything other than political power. Gays and Lesbians don't exactly group up together "in the wild" like they do during rallies and shows of political unity. To make one point, when is the last time you've seen, or even really heard of a lesbian stalking and molesting a young girl, or a mother raping her daughter, or whatever else. It HAS happened, but not very often in reality. Now how many times have you seen or heard about it with men? You do a quick search you'll find tons of stuff about gay child molesters and predators but very little about lesbians. Likewise accross the spectrum women are more likely to kill their offspring/dependants when they go off the deep end, than sexually molest them over a period of time. As I said, there are exceptions, but that's one big pattern. Working casino security for a pretty long time I literally chased scores of creepy guys away from the little boys in the arcade, I did not have a single incident of finding a woman trying to lure little girls away or anything. It's not a point many people on the leftward side of things like to hear, but think about it sometime. You do a job like I did and you'll see the differances first hand as well in who you have to step in to deal with. Basically, chances are if I thought Lesbians represented a threat, I wouldn't be pervy towards the idea, especially seing as by their nature girls who like girls want nothing to do with me.
At any rate that should cover just about everything, we're pretty much done, and this will be my past post in the thread.
