That is pretty much the opposite of the truth, if you see every piece of media in a context-vacuum you cannot even begin to critisize it.piscian said:
Damn you beat me to it.DanielG said:
It's sad how true this is. But, really, I've been seeing magic and science mixed together in great works for a long time. Hell, I write tons of stuff that mixes the two. It leads to all sorts of interesting dilemmas.cthulhuspawn82 said:
I don't know anyone who thought they were "awesome". Who the hell could, who's ever looked at a few selections of X-Men era designs?Windknight said:
My comments were about the MCU films in particular, btw (in response to that guy's criticism of Bob's observations), I wasn't picking at Fant-4-stic's designs. I mean, I could... but I didn't in that first post (what I did say, however, is that the Fantastic Four deserve a proper Silver Age treatment).ArcaneGamer said:
I last heard he's 8th, and Hank Pam (that's him in his Wasp outfit) is 7th, and Cho is OK with that.coheedswicked said:Damn you beat me to it.DanielG said:
He's the 7th smartest person in the world ( or 8th depending who you ask). He can basically... see math.
Stories have fans because something about them connects with those audience members in some way. A good adaptation of a work will find that connective element and build with it. This tends to be easier with more popular material because that element either has broad appeal or a good expression in the original work.Falterfire said:
Phwoah, Adi Granov's iteration of Wanda is one of the best I've seen since Adam Hughes:coheedswicked said:
that's a bit harsh.Darth Rosenberg said:
To make money, likely. They ARE ba business, I get it, but they must remember who their target audience for these movies are. I want a movie like that too, and maybe that's why while I WANT to give Trank a chance, and see if the movie's any good (After I hear some reviews first, of course), I also have this lingering desire in the deeper part of my mind that this bombs, and Marvel takes it back, and makes their version. Because they have shown via their films, that they can not only pull it off, but do so in a way that's mostly satisfying, looks modern (somewhat believable), we can get invested in the story, yet still has that comedic side to it, to let us know that they're not taking themselves too seriously, and embracing their goofier side. I get that superhero movies with a darker tone can work, but it doesn't work with ALL of them. It's the main reason I haven't (and refuse to) see "Man Of Steel". Superman isn't Batman. He's pretty much a god that thinks he's a man. He is, as Zack Snyder put it rather bluntly, Space Jesus. But from what I've seen/heard in reviews, he doesn't ACT like it. The characters build him up as such, (with a performance I'm surprised to say I liked Russel Crowe in as the father) yet he causes so much damage to the city he's SUPPOSED to protect, and when he could have led Zod somewhere away from the city, he doesn't. And need I bring up the whole "Zod neck-snap" thing? I felt worse for Zod! But I'm getting off track. From what Max did with the character of Doom in his web-series (which is mostly about how to play with the characters of Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3), what I had heard from Linkara about the character from his show "Atop The Fourth Wall" (A comic book review show with it's own story to it, that I'd recommend seeing), and from what I saw of him while reading "The Runaways" comics, I came to like the character. (And yes, I know, comparing how the comic portrays Doom to a web-series is kind of dumb, but that's the interpretation that got me to like the character more; especially after I learned more about him via Linkara's review of "Doom 2099 #1".) So, I was irritated to see what Trank's planning on doing with Doom. I don't think that Doom is supposed to be played this way. (And remember I haven't read the comics) I want the Doom that comes across a villain from the Silver Age, (and kind of acts like a ham at points, reminding me of Tim Curry) yet is a kind and caring ruler of his country to his people. Wow, this response was long, wasn't it? Sorry for the large wall of text, sir or madam.Darth Rosenberg said:
Superman isn't Space Jesus! He's Space Moses! Read your Space Bible!ArcaneGamer said:
There's a Space Bible?! Does it make any more sense than ours?theNater said:
You've written on the subject of science and magic mixed together? Do tell. I find the ideas of Functional Magic, and/or MagiTech fascinating. The knowledge and technology of science, combined with the raw power and potential of magic...wonderful, yet potentially devastating. I say that, because when people get a new resource, tool, or invention...we eventually find SOME way of either hurting people with it, or using it in a way it wasn't originally meant to be used. Like say, the atom bomb or the creation of dynamite. But that isn't to say all innovations are bad. After all, what are most inventors? Dreamers, creators. Dream lead to divine discoveries, wouldn't you say? An idea for story I'm trying to come with is one wherein Magic either shows up, or "comes back" into modern society. After a celestial event in which the signs of the zodiac appear in the night sky [or something, I'm thinking of it returning due to an experiment the government does shortly after, and be it intentionally or not, it creates a channel to the realm of the supernatural, or spiritual. Basically, it's an energy that can be used to defy the laws of the universe. I'm...probably either over-thinking it or under-thinking it.]RJ Dalton said:
To be fair, the Ultimate comic end was announced after Fox (or whoever was working on the film) said that they were working mainly on the Ultimate side of the Fantastic Four. That was nothing but a very smart business decision by Marvel/Disney as it shows that the original creators have no want of that version of the characters. From a strictly impersonal side, it's very smart. Give the movie as little hope as possible in hope that you can reclaim and re-market a different version a few years later. But personally I find it a little douchey. I don't want films to fail, I would love the film to be great and see everyone say, "They did a good job". Marvel have already done extremely well with their movies so far, and they've got enough content to last them for a long time.SonOfVoorhees said:
That goes a bit off-topic. Let's see if anyone notices. >.>ArcaneGamer said:
