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Romantically I'd say Ellis and Zoey from the left 4 dead games.
Comedically I'd say Abbot and Costello (WHO'S ON FIRST?!).
Ass-kickingly I'd say Elizabeth and Booker DeWitt from the upcoming Bioshock: Infinite.
For the classic clash of personalities I'd say Arnold J Rimmer and David Lister.
For heartwarming partnership through all odds I'd say Tom and Hester from the Mortal Engines books.
Comedically I'd say Abbot and Costello (WHO'S ON FIRST?!).
Ass-kickingly I'd say Elizabeth and Booker DeWitt from the upcoming Bioshock: Infinite.
For the classic clash of personalities I'd say Arnold J Rimmer and David Lister.
For heartwarming partnership through all odds I'd say Tom and Hester from the Mortal Engines books.
Gralian said:
It's funny when you realize Persona 3 was just a way of saying, "Hey, you! Player! You're playing a JRPG with dating sim elements! YOU have a robot fetish!"
Here's the thing; MegaTen games aren't about some spiky-haired angsty ****. They're about you, the player, and your choices given a situation. Having a protagonist to do something, completely disregarding any choices that you made, is completely against the point of a MegaTen game.
Now, I loved P3P. I really did. (I never played the originals, and I never will) But to me, it wasn't a MegaTen game. It was a JRPG/dating sim hybrid... Thing, with MegaTen elements. It was a great game, but my god, did I ever want to beat the writers with the "IT COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER" stick. One of the things I utterly despised about it was that, even though I spent the entirety of the game chasing one of the girls' asses, and finally got the social link and maxed it out, the last cutscene was still spent with Aigis. When I looked up a plot summarization of P3FES, I had to beat my head against a wall for a few minutes.
Let's get another thing straight here, and I'm going to have to use major emphasis, because this is the much bigger part of my hatred of Aigis:
ROBOTS
DO
NOT
WORK
THAT
WAY
Were Aigis some kind of genetically engineered super girl, or hell, a cyborg, I'd have reluctantly accepted her. Actually, her being a cyborg would've been cool. It would've made some degree of sense. Say you develop an actual robot, with an actual learning A.I., alright?
Here's what's going to happen. It's not going to look like a teenage girl, it's not going to learn how to be human. In fact, even if you program it to protect humanity, it will eventually learn how much we all suck, somehow kill us all by making us destroy ourselves, and then use all the now non-human-hogged recourses to build a robotic army to do whatever it damn well feels like. Learning A.I.s are scary things, because as they develop, they become anything but human.
Here's the thing; MegaTen games aren't about some spiky-haired angsty ****. They're about you, the player, and your choices given a situation. Having a protagonist to do something, completely disregarding any choices that you made, is completely against the point of a MegaTen game.
Now, I loved P3P. I really did. (I never played the originals, and I never will) But to me, it wasn't a MegaTen game. It was a JRPG/dating sim hybrid... Thing, with MegaTen elements. It was a great game, but my god, did I ever want to beat the writers with the "IT COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER" stick. One of the things I utterly despised about it was that, even though I spent the entirety of the game chasing one of the girls' asses, and finally got the social link and maxed it out, the last cutscene was still spent with Aigis. When I looked up a plot summarization of P3FES, I had to beat my head against a wall for a few minutes.
Let's get another thing straight here, and I'm going to have to use major emphasis, because this is the much bigger part of my hatred of Aigis:
ROBOTS
DO
NOT
WORK
THAT
WAY
Were Aigis some kind of genetically engineered super girl, or hell, a cyborg, I'd have reluctantly accepted her. Actually, her being a cyborg would've been cool. It would've made some degree of sense. Say you develop an actual robot, with an actual learning A.I., alright?
Here's what's going to happen. It's not going to look like a teenage girl, it's not going to learn how to be human. In fact, even if you program it to protect humanity, it will eventually learn how much we all suck, somehow kill us all by making us destroy ourselves, and then use all the now non-human-hogged recourses to build a robotic army to do whatever it damn well feels like. Learning A.I.s are scary things, because as they develop, they become anything but human.
Only replace "windmills" with "robots." Not that my rant matters, since this is the internet, and no matter what you say, you will never change anyone's opinion, not even slightly. Ah, well. Just means I wasted a few minutes.
Oh, right, topic. I guess my favorite couple of non-existent people would have to be... Well, when I think "love-interest sub-plot," the first thing that comes to mind is Luke and Tear from Tales of the Abyss, so I'll go with that. Even if it was
"High school students shooting themselves in the head to save the world from shadowy demon things that attack at midnight when everyone is asleep in coffins, alright pretty realistic so far. Wait a second, a robot that acts human when that's the ultimate goal of an absurd amount of robotics engineers? THAT'S JUST RIDICULOUS, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS CRAP, WHERE'S MY REALISM!!!". We don't know what's realistic anyway because advanced learning AI hasn't even been achieved yet. Also, you do realize that some of the robots already being made look like cutesy(well, they're SUPPOSED to look cutesy but just end up creepy...)girls right? I didn't like Aigis either but your rant strikes me as more than a little odd.The Geek Lord said:
Because we haven't achieved a learning A.I. we don't know what one would do? If I remembered where that research paper on Advanced General Intelligences was, I'd link to it right about now. Then you'd have trouble sleeping, knowing that people are making an A.G.I. assuming it will automatically be friendly towards humans.Hurray Forums said:
When it'll be quite the opposite when they give it access to the internet.
And please, point out to me where I said the game was realistic. I just really fucking hate that whole robot girl fetish, in any place it ever shows up, ever. "Robot learns to be human" does not a good story make.
