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Ironic Pirate

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priestswearseatbelts said:
Maternity leave.
How?

Anyway, if scholarships are too be believed, white males are all able to pay for scholarships themselves, whereas every other ethnicity has quite a number to pick from. Shouldn't these things be given out by economic state rather than race?
 

Ajna

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Vault101 said:
I doubt getting hit on by a gay alein in a game is going to irreverisbly ruin your day

and its all about story and stuff as well...I mean YOU are not comander shepard, its not YOU whos being hit on

I mean its all about the experience isnt it? not "ahhhhh gay alien hitting on ME??? kill it! kill it with fire!"

people need to grow up
I really hope that "people" is referring to people other than me, because if you'd comprehended what I wrote (I'm making the leap of faith to assume you read the entire thing, which is more than most people on this site do), you'd have gotten that my point was not "ew gay aliens".

My point is that I play games as a form of escapism. And it's not homophobia to feel awkward when a gay man hits on you. It's feeling goddamn awkward. I play role-playing games to be someone cooler than me. And I like to imagine that if I was cooler, I'd get hit on by people I'm attracted to. I don't give a shit about how it's different from reality, because it's a goddamn video game.

It's growing increasingly annoying that people can't understand: I am not homophobic, I just don't like it when guys hit on me. In real life or a video game.

Also, thank you for using the same goddamn logical fallacy everyone else uses, and using worse grammar (and strawman-esque statements) for your [made up] quotes representing a view opposing yours. It's almost as original as sarcasm as a way of proving how stupid an opponent's view is.

EDIT: Actually, upon rereading your post, you just use pretty terrible grammar throughout, so you can ignore half of that last point.
 

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Faux Furry said:
My 'favorite' double standard is the one dealing with acceptable exposure.

If a man takes off his shirt to flaunt what he's got, he's a manly man that it's okay for children to look up to. Said flaunting of physique might even help him to become governor some day (as well as to sire an illegitimate child or two along the way).

If a woman takes off her shirt for so much as ventilation, she's a shameless harlot whose going to corrupt the children of the world (maybe even her own child if she was about to breastfeed her/him?) and a disgrace to society.
This.
Though I've noticed it's somewhat more exceptable in hot countries where tourists go, as opposed to good ol' England.
Still. In the summer.. :/ Anyway.

OT: My friend was one of the biggest homophobes out there.. two guys? ERGH GROSS! Immoral. Etc
However.. two girls = okay.
It's very rarely the other way round.. but still.
E.g You'll get men who phwoar at 2 lasses.. but the second 2 guys make googley eyes at each other it's disgusting and foul.

That bugs me. Homosexuality is homosexuality. And it's fine ^^

Also, if you are not religious and state your view to a religious person, and they get upset. But the other way round is fine.

And the whole woman hit man = okay
man hit woman = brute.
 

Ajna

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Emilin_Rose said:
If you're black or hispanic, you could have a brand new mercedes, drive to the foodbank, and everyone just smiles and lets the "down on their luck" minority family get whatever food they want, but if you're a white and you go in a crappy ancient minivan without working heat in the dead of winter first thing in the morning to get food, everyone looks down on you, mutters about how you're "taking advantage" of them, sneering behind your back, and making sure when you come to the area for fresh food{fruits, berries, vegetables) they always give you the moldy rotten ones, as punishment for "taking advantage" of people's kindness when you obviously don't need it because you are white.

Ajna said:
A similar "not exactly a double standard" that bugs me:

There are plenty of scholarships related to your race and gender, but it's all one way. Minorities (in the Politically Correct sense of the term, not a regional one) get plenty, as do women, but if you're a white male, clearly you've never suffered hardship, and clearly your parents have enough money to pay for college, so you don't get a scholarship, *****. Now fuck off.
I have to stop you there. There are a few scholarships i've found that are for women in general, but they are usually given to minorities, because again, minorities must have it harder with their nice cars and stuff. Other than than i've yet to find a scholarship for white women only or anything like that. You'd think being a woman would make it easier, but nope.
Regarding point 1 (the part not directed at me): Actually, me and my mom have to go to a food bank every couple of months, and we get treated with respect even though we're white. Though, part of that might be that the majority of the poor in my area are white, so...

Point 2 (the part actually directed at me): I can understand scholarships for minorities to encourage diversity at school. But if you're going to a school that is 70% black (which I am planning to), then black people aren't a minority. Sure they are, nationally, but scholarships offered for minorities by a school should, in my opinion, be offered to people that are actually a goddamn minority there. Gender is a different issue: It just bugs me that scholarships for women exist in the first place. There are as many or more [http://www.nber.org/digest/jan07/w12139.html] women in college than men. Frankly, I don't think the difference is big enough to warrant scholarships (or at least, not the huge fucking ones I'm seeing get handed out), but even if they do, it seems like men would be the ones (statistically) that should be getting them.

>inb4 "women haven't always had the option to go to school, so they need the scholarships more"

That doesn't make sense. Because other men got to go to college when other women didn't, that makes current women underpriveleged? I can understand claiming women are worse off than men in the workforce, because the whole "75 cents to a dollar" thing is an actual stat. But as it is, more women are going to college than men, and the women are paying less.
 

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LordSnakeEyes said:
2- Every white man can be a racist but nobody can be racist against white men.
This one plus

Black (Asian, Hispanic, etc) person hits a white person = assault and battery

White person hits a Black (Asian, Hispanic, etc) = HATE CRIME
 

Canadamus Prime

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Elijah Ball said:
Twilight.

40something year old women salivating over buff teen vampires, ok.

40something year old guys doing the same for teen girls... less ok.
"less ok"? that's putting it mildly. If it was 40something year old men drooling over teen girls it'd be called pedophilia and they'd all be locked up, or put under surveillance at least.
 

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gbemery said:
LordSnakeEyes said:
2- Every white man can be a racist but nobody can be racist against white men.
Definitely this. I'm black and I can honestly say my parents and most people in my community (fellow black people of course) are some of the most racist people I've ever come across.
 

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k-ossuburb said:
Okay, mine's not as controversial as the others, but I feel like this thread needs to lighten up a bit.

Guy is naked and is wearing nothing but socks and he looks a total fool.

Girl is naked and is wearing nothing but socks and it's actually quite cute.

Little link on Urban Dictionary explaining things. [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sock%20gap]
Hey! I'm wearing nothing but socks right now, and i don't look like a total fool. >:eek:
 

Vault101

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Ajna said:
Vault101 said:
I doubt getting hit on by a gay alein in a game is going to irreverisbly ruin your day

and its all about story and stuff as well...I mean YOU are not comander shepard, its not YOU whos being hit on

I mean its all about the experience isnt it? not "ahhhhh gay alien hitting on ME??? kill it! kill it with fire!"

people need to grow up
I really hope that "people" is referring to people other than me, because if you'd comprehended what I wrote (I'm making the leap of faith to assume you read the entire thing, which is more than most people on this site do), you'd have gotten that my point was not "ew gay aliens".

My point is that I play games as a form of escapism. And it's not homophobia to feel awkward when a gay man hits on you. It's feeling goddamn awkward. I play role-playing games to be someone cooler than me. And I like to imagine that if I was cooler, I'd get hit on by people I'm attracted to. I don't give a shit about how it's different from reality, because it's a goddamn video game.

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Ok then, let me put it a different way

I wouldnt what whatever charachter or incident this is removed from the game, because some people feel uncomfortable over interacting with some pixels

also I dont agree with the Idea "I use games as a form of escapism so I don't think they should do X"

I feel its kind of like saying "I watch movies as a form of escapism so I dont think they should make sad movies, I dont like being sad"
 

Aurgelmir

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emeraldrafael said:
OneStepAhead said:
OT:

Guys throw like a girl, gay (or a girly boy).
Girl throws like a guy, butch lesbo.

EDIT:

Thought of another, though it may not be universally true.

really enjoy learning -> Loser
really enjoy Sports -> Awesome

EDIT2:

government is a big one, at least int he states, though I imagine it is anyhwere wehre there's more then one party. But Fox news and MSNBC are perfect examples, depending who you support.

Msnbc = good
Fox news = bad

or

Msnbc = bad
Fox news = good
Noe of those are really double standards though. Your first one is actually "same treatment" I mean what you say is this:
If a man is like a girl, he is gay. If a woman is like man, she is gay. No double standard at all.

The second are referring to the act of really liking two different things, which then can't be viewed as a double standard without context.

A double standard is when two different people/groups/genders/races/etc do the same or similar thing but get treated differently. Which can't really be applied to your news channel example either, as you have different people liking different things.
 

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SvenBTB said:
Faux Furry said:
My 'favorite' double standard is the one dealing with acceptable exposure.

If a man takes off his shirt to flaunt what he's got, he's a manly man that it's okay for children to look up to. Said flaunting of physique might even help him to become governor some day (as well as to sire an illegitimate child or two along the way).

If a woman takes off her shirt for so much as ventilation, she's a shameless harlot whose going to corrupt the children of the world (maybe even her own child if she was about to breastfeed her/him?) and a disgrace to society.
Yea, and men don't have tits, either. *facepalm*

Go down to a beach this summer. I can guarantee the skimpiest beach-wear you'll see is that on a female. You're not going to see a dude on the beach wearing nothing but a thong.

Unless you live near a nude beach, of course, in which case disregard this =P
What about flat chested women or men with moobs?

My most hated double standard is the acceptance of sexism in different genders:

Man treats women like objects: Bastard!
Woman treats men like objects: Totally acceptable, we're barely people after all.
 
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clipse15 said:
priestswearseatbelts said:
Maternity leave.
Wait how is Maternity Leave a double standard?
If I, as a man, decided that I wanted six months (or whatever the standard is) off work. In order to pursue a NON-WORK related interest. Which for a COMPANY, having a child is.

Then I'd expect that six months to be without pay, and the employer would be within their rights to sack me. For the inconvenience. However if I were a pregnant woman; who was fired. I could sue, how is that fair?

Not all countries have the same contractual laws, with regards to employment. Not all employment contracts account for pregnancy.

Recently laws in the west offer fathers maternity leave. It's nothing in comparison to the leeway offered to mothers though. The logical inference is that. Males are not entitled to the same level of devoted time; in the first six months of their child's life.

Our capacity to 'father' as many children as there are eligible, fertile women. Is the main reasoning behind this. However.... this implies infidelity. It's OK to tar guys with the same brush though. You make a suggestion that women are cyclically emotional unstable. You will hang. Regardless of how true it is.

As with most things that are examined with a purely subjective and biased eye. With an aim to sit on a pedestal and snipe at anyone with PC bullets, from on high.

The internet, as a whole. Seem incapable of objective discussion. You just try discussing lactose intolerance amongst racial demographics. The number of African American that are able to swim. Hell try having a civilized conversation about immigration.

You will be met.... on BOTH SIDES. By extreme zealotry, ignorance, assumptions, personal insinuations and cliched response. Instead of intelligent, succinct, astute, articulate and rational discussion.
 

Korolev

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Here are the worst double standards that I have seen:

1) If a person of X ethnicity, where X is different from the norm in that country, commits a crime, suddenly that person's ethnicity is a focus point. If a person of Y ethnicity, where Y is the majority ethnic group in that country, commits a similar crime, suddenly no one pays attention to his or her race.
2) Gender X can do something and it's seen as no big deal, Gender Y cannot do the same thing. Both women and men do this. Men tend to severely look down on a woman having multiple sexual partners, but tolerate or, hell, even respect a man who has had many sexual partners. On the other hand, Women state that Men are shallow and pathetic for giving importance to physical attractiveness when considering a mate, yet women also have important appearance standards, and apparently that's "not" shallow: Case in point, if a man doesn't want to date a women because she is fat, that's apparently "wrong". If a woman doesn't want to date a man because he is shorter than her, then that's absolutely fine. In my opinion, BOTH genders have an absolute right not to date anyone they find physically unattractive! Men have a right not to date fat women, and women have a right not to date men shorter than them. Another case in point: If a man turns down or scorns the affections of a woman, the man thinks nothing of it. If a woman turns down or scorns a man, the man often gets very angry and throws a fit, as if he had a right to be liked by a girl (which of course, he does not have. No one has a right to be liked. NO ONE. A lot of men have a lot of trouble with this concept, sadly).
3) A poor or middle class person commits a crime. They are punished. A rich or famous person commits the same crime and often gets no punishment or a very minor punishment. This one annoys me the most. How many people have been given years and years in jail because they were caught with drugs or unregistered firearms, yet Lindsay Lohan and many other famous celebrities and rappers get only a few days in jail or a slap on the wrist?
4) Politician A changes his plan. Supporters of A say "what a wise politician! So pragmatic and willing to compromise!", while Supporters of B say "What a gutless flip-flopper. But if Politician B also makes a change or backs down from a plan, supporters of A will say "oh, he's a no-values coward!", while supporters of B will make up any excuse under the sun to justify the change.
5) America does something wrong, and it is rightfully condemned. But when France or Italy or Germany or Russia or China does something even worse, fewer folks pay attention.

Double-standards exist amongst every group. Every group, ethnicity, nation, gender or political party has self-interests and they always forbid their opponents to do what they do themselves. Double-standards come with being human. I have double-standards, YOU have double-standards, EVERYONE has double standards. This doesn't mean we should accept double-standards, but we need to be aware that everyone and every group has them, and that we live in a non-perfect world populated with non-perfect people.
 

Korolev

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Oh, just thought of a good one:

Pharmaceutical or Bio-Med company X wants to market a product. The company is accused of being profit driven and greedy and heartless. By naturalist, hippie sponsored company Y sells a "natural alternative" for an even more exorbitant price and yet they are NOT accused of being profit-driven.

A pharmacy sells a pack of glucosamine pills for 60 dollars? EVIL CAPITALISTS they're called! A "health guru" wants to sell you a magnetic bed or a bottle of homeopathic water for 100+ dollars? WHOLESOME HELPERS they're called!
 

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ThatDaveDude1 said:
Women can give birth however many times they like, but us Men can't even do it once.
Ok that seriously made me laugh out loud.

Let's see, I don't like that Maternity Leave is required for basically every company ever, but Paternity Leave isn't. I understand that the mother is necessary for biological reasons, but that just leaves the mother home alone without any assistance from the father. Sure he doesn't exactly fill a necessary role, but if the dad stuck around I think he'd be wanting to be with his newly born child too.
 

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Oil, coal, natural gas industries in the States: accidents and emissions that routinely leave tons of people dead - unavoidable part of the job, no need to tighten regulation.

Nuclear power industry in the States: overall history in > 50 years with less than 10 total deaths, all of which mechanical - need to keep regulations tight as vices on balls, otherwise Chernobyl every day.
 

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Faux Furry said:
My 'favorite' double standard is the one dealing with acceptable exposure.

If a man takes off his shirt to flaunt what he's got, he's a manly man that it's okay for children to look up to. Said flaunting of physique might even help him to become governor some day (as well as to sire an illegitimate child or two along the way).

If a woman takes off her shirt for so much as ventilation, she's a shameless harlot whose going to corrupt the children of the world (maybe even her own child if she was about to breastfeed her/him?) and a disgrace to society.
I actually have this problem. I throw up and pass out if I overheat in an enclosed area, but all the gyms I go to refuse to let me work out in my sports bra. The guys are COMPLETELY accepted shirtless, but I'm not...and there have been times that they've had to call an ambulance for me.
 

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Club dress codes. Beyond a joke. So I can get chucked out for wearing trainers, but a girl with only a bra and a miniskirt is fine? Fuck you.