Favorite Video Game Plot Holes

Recommended Videos

kane.malakos

New member
Jan 7, 2011
344
0
0
Euhan01 said:
Half Life - How does a random scientist have the power to destroy everything in his path?
It's pretty well established that the only reason Gordon Freeman survived was the HEV suit, plus getting really lucky (maybe with some help from the G-Man). In fact, canonically speaking, basically everyone who had an HEV suit survived, while the vast majority of others died.
 

kane.malakos

New member
Jan 7, 2011
344
0
0
ReinofFire said:
Halo: Humanity has been able to use covenant technology for a long time apparently (thank you Halo Wars) but in all that time they still use bullets. In fact, if Spartans could use covenant technology to begin with, why didn't they use it more often (you know other than for scavenging, which by the way is not a part of war, thank you video games).
Even if they have the technology, reverse engineering it is not exactly easy. Plus the covenant weapons have some drawbacks compared to the human weapons - overheating problems, no scope technology, poor accuracy. I'm sure the humans could integrate some of the advances into their own weapons, but they're more focused on fighting the war.
 

Euhan01

New member
Mar 16, 2011
376
0
0
kane.malakos said:
Euhan01 said:
Half Life - How does a random scientist have the power to destroy everything in his path?
It's pretty well established that the only reason Gordon Freeman survived was the HEV suit, plus getting really lucky (maybe with some help from the G-Man). In fact, canonically speaking, basically everyone who had an HEV suit survived, while the vast majority of others died.
I haven't played Half life in ages, but weren't there loads of dead HEV suit's in Zen? Surely they were trained more in wafare then Freeman?
 

zfactor

New member
Jan 16, 2010
922
0
0
Klagermeister said:
LoZ OoT: Considering the sages had the power to weaken and kill Ganon in his fully empowered form at the end, why did they seal themselves in the Sacred Realm along with Link (while Ganondorf was still just some magic-wielding normal dude, no less) while he fucked with Hyrule for seven goddamn years? Couldn't they have beaten him when he still didn't have the Triforce's power?
-sigh-

They never had the power to kill Ganondorf in the end. Link had to weaken Ganondorf for them. When Ganondorf first entered the sacred realm, the only sage there was Rauru. Link had to gather the other sages by getting rid of the evils in their temples. Rauru was not powerful enough to stop Ganondorf on his own and, as soon as he entered the sacred realm, he has the Triforce of Power. So Rauru did not try to stop him and just sealed Link in the realm for seven years. Yeah, they all probably could have defeated him, but not while he had the Triforce of Power. In the end sequence, they are able to seal him in the sacred realm because link weakened him by shooting him with light arrows, hacking his face off, crashing a castle down on him, then stabbing him in the face. Repeatedly. Ganondorf was weakened by link and that is why he is able to be sealed away. Of course, he still has the Triforce of Power, so he might be able to break out later (then they made Windwaker, where he got out.)
 

EHKOS

Madness to my Methods
Feb 28, 2010
4,815
0
0
Scorched_Cascade said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Any CtF game: Why can't you teleport with a flag?
Its a well known fact that flags in fact interfere with quantum processes while armour and guns do not. Do you want your character to rematerialise fused with the flag?

Jak and Daxter: Oh man, time travel right? So it is hinted strongly that:
Jak is in fact Mar
Jak runs around picking up pieces of Mar's armour and then time travels a bit with the otsels. When he emerges from whatever it was he was doing in the past he still has the armour on.
If he is mar and he picked up Mar's old armour in the future then he must have left it at some point in the past
What's going on there?

There are also a few involving the child that is Mar's descendant in the future and what happens to him.
I can explain this one. In the game they say Mar was old. I can't remember how old but enough that he died a while back. Jak is his decendant. That little kid IS Jak. They sent him back to the first games location to protect him until he was old enough. Wether they knew he would find another time machine or just hoped to get him out of danger is still a question.
 

Shoggoth2588

New member
Aug 31, 2009
10,247
0
0
Elamdri said:
Ok, I know this is video game plot holes, but I'm just going to have to hijack this for a moment and turn to book/movie plot holes.

Harry Potter: Why don't they ever use the Time Turner to fix stuff?
A bigger question is, why didn't Hermione brew up more Felix Felicious (luck potion) during 6th year and summer break after? Lucky Potion would have been a really effective weapon in the fight against He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named[sub][sub][sub]Voldemort[/sub][/sub][/sub]. Even if the trio didn't use it themselves, there was a window of opportunity during the end of year 6 when she could have left it in the Room of Requirement or something.

---

Final Fantasy VII & Crisis Core: There were literally dozens of G clones. Why did Cloud and Tifa forget about them and yet retain memories (no matter how faint) of Zack?

---

Kingdom Hearts/Final Fantasy VIII: Who the hell is Leon? What have you done with Squall!?

---

Mass Effect 2 & Dragon Age 2: If you played the Kasumi Loyalty mission, you may have noticed a statue of an Ogre from DA:O/ DA2. If that was there then it could be argued that Ferelden and it's Earth coexist with Shepard. Looking closely at default, Male Hawke, you can kind of see something familiar:



My current theory involves Hawk being a son of Shepard since Shepard's Earth is ours IE: no biotics/ magic until after the discovery of Mass Effect Drives. That one isn't a plot hole: just an insane theory.
 

archvile93

New member
Sep 2, 2009
2,564
0
0
wouldyoukindly99 said:
Not really what you would call "Favorite" since it kinda spoils the story but, Bioshock:

So Fontaine sends Jack to the surface as a baby right? What happens when he gets to dry land and exits the sub? How did he survive alone, as an infant no less, on the surface? We learn that his memories of a family are fake, so he probably didn't live with anyone on the surface, how did he make it as a baby all the way to able-to-buy-a-plane-ticket-for-myself adulthood?

Also, how did Fontaine know where to send the package? Did he have someone tailing Jack his whole life?
Well I can't explain the package, but it's stated that Jack's development speed was greatly sped up before being sent to the surface. There's at least one diary by doctor Su Chong (I think that's his name) complaining how useless children are, and that he needs to find a way to make them grow into adults where they're useful faster. I guess he did.

OT: There probably is an explanation for this, but why in Halo 1 when Cortana finds out about the Halo's through Covenant data do they believe that the halo's are simply a weapon, whereas in Halo 2 it's stated they believe them to be objects of transendence?
 

baddude1337

Taffer
Jun 9, 2010
1,855
0
0
The crazy number of inconsistencies/retcons in Halo games, such as Noble being mainly Spartan 3's even though nobody knows about them, and theres even a Spartan 2 on the team. How all the spartans seem to have regenerating shields even though chief is the only one who actually has the armor to do that, and that fact that it is Spartan 3's who are using this armor, How the Spartan's in Halo Wars have shields even though they hadn't been invented yet. That's just a small number of the many problems.
 

Azaraxzealot

New member
Dec 1, 2009
2,403
0
0
Klagermeister said:
LoZ OoT: Considering the sages had the power to weaken and kill Ganon in his fully empowered form at the end, why did they seal themselves in the Sacred Realm along with Link (while Ganondorf was still just some magic-wielding normal dude, no less) while he fucked with Hyrule for seven goddamn years? Couldn't they have beaten him when he still didn't have the Triforce's power?

Dead Rising: .......How did Frank West escape from the tank?
he zombie-walked.
 

Scorched_Cascade

Innocence proves nothing
Sep 26, 2008
1,399
0
0
EHKOS said:
Scorched_Cascade said:
Jak and Daxter: Oh man, time travel right? So it is hinted strongly that:
Jak is in fact Mar
Jak runs around picking up pieces of Mar's armour and then time travels a bit with the otsels. When he emerges from whatever it was he was doing in the past he still has the armour on.
If he is mar and he picked up Mar's old armour in the future then he must have left it at some point in the past
What's going on there?

There are also a few involving the child that is Mar's descendant in the future and what happens to him.
I can explain this one. In the game they say Mar was old. I can't remember how old but enough that he died a while back. Jak is his decendant. That little kid IS Jak. They sent him back to the first games location to protect him until he was old enough. Wether they knew he would find another time machine or just hoped to get him out of danger is still a question.
Okay I'm going to assume everyone that wants to play this game has already so without spoiler tags:

They say that Jak is his descendant but it is heavily implied by the sage/otsel characters that Jak IS Mar as well as his descendant. I.e he time travelled back built haven city and fathered a child who then fathered a child until Jak was born.

Basically they imply that he is his own ancestor. So the timeline looks like this:

-Jak is born the descendant of mar and grows up in a city at war with metal heads.
-He is captured but later saved by the resistance and future Jak.
-Child Jak then opens the temple of mar for future Jak who is too tainted to do so himself.
-Future Jak saves the city
-Child Jak is sent back in time to the past with the young green sage as his guide/mentor.
-Events of Jak+Daxter 1
-Jak, Kiera and Daxter repair the old time machine and activate it this allows the metal head leader entry into the past world from the future and his conquest begins creating a stable time loop.
-Jak is sent into the future and saves the city while picking up artifacts Mar left behind in the past
-Jak saves the world from the Dark Makers
-Jak time travels to the past with the otsel makers for unknown reason
-???
-Jak (Mar) travels back to the past to build Haven city and temples that he had already used in the future by using mako. He leaves behind his armour and other artifacts.
-Jak (Mar) fathers children one of whom is the ancestor of Jak.
-Jak is born the descendant of Mar and grows up in a city at war with metal heads
It's clever but it makes your brain hurt.
 

Witney

New member
Mar 25, 2011
22
0
0
Games are better without plot anyway. Stories only get in the way of gameplay, and are usually completely extraneous.
 

Zachary Unkle

New member
Jan 16, 2011
80
0
0
Call of Duty games:
MW2:Random militia soldier.He has access to some of the most potent firearms in the world as well as attack helicopters,fighter jets,supply drops,and sentry turrets.All he needs to do is kill people to get these things.
Black Ops:Hello soldier!You're being assinged to a combat mission in nearly every country involved with the Cold War.Also,you're brainwashed so that there's an imaginary Russian guy who seems to follow you around everywhere and is able to kill people when he doesn't even exist.
Yup,it all makes sense.
 

Ordinaryundone

New member
Oct 23, 2010
1,568
0
0
Silent Biohazard Solid said:
In Metal Gear Solid 2, Liquid Snake says, that Big Boss was "In his late sixties when they made his clones."
But in Peace Walker, it is officially revealed that Big Boss is 39 years old in 1974, which means he was actually 37 when they made his clones.
The only way to explain this is that Liquid (or Ocelot) completely sucks at math.
Eh, its not really a plot hole so much as a retcon. In MGS3 they wanted Big Boss to look exactly like Solid Snake, which forced them to de-age him quite a bit from his previously established age.

supermariner said:
It's not really a plot hole, just something i don't quite understand

in Lost Odyssey, why the hell does Jansen stick around?
everybody hates him (bar Ming but even she never says anything nice to him)
Seth even keeps kicking him up the arse constantly all the way through the game
Ming, Sarah, kaim and Seth have to stick around to beat Gongora, i get that
Mack and Cooke have no family other than kaim and sarah so they have to stick around
Sed is Seth's son and has a ship which the others NEED
and Tolten needs Gongora defeated so he can reclaim his kingdom
But Jansen? i just don't get it, there's no reason whatsoever for him to be there
he even moans that he doesn't want to be there any of the time
Cause Gongora was a huge cock to him and Jansen felt like getting revenge. Also, he's in love with Ming.

Or he's got nothing better to do, maybe? Jansen didn't seem like the type to really have big plans for the future. Once he'd found a circle of friends and a girl he was actually in love with he had no problem sticking around. I never really got the impression that the rest of the party disliked Jansen, except for Seth at the beginning. He's just a doofus, and though they occasionally tell him off for saying something dumb, I get the feeling most of the party liked him just fine. I mean, none of the party outside of his family ever say anything nice to Kaim either, but I wouldn't say they dislike him.

Euhan01 said:
Halo Reach - How do all the Spartans now how to use Coventent weapons/viechels that they've never seen before.
Who said that the Spartans didn't know how to use Covie tech? Reach wasn't the first battle of the war, not by a long shot. And they recognized Covenant soldiers the moment they saw them.
 

baddude1337

Taffer
Jun 9, 2010
1,855
0
0
believer258 said:
baddude1337 said:
The crazy number of inconsistencies/retcons in Halo games, such as Noble being mainly Spartan 3's even though nobody knows about them, and theres even a Spartan 2 on the team. How all the spartans seem to have regenerating shields even though chief is the only one who actually has the armor to do that, and that fact that it is Spartan 3's who are using this armor, How the Spartan's in Halo Wars have shields even though they hadn't been invented yet. That's just a small number of the many problems.
Don't start! The fanboys will fucking eat you alive for that blasphemous statement! Trust me, I know, I said the same thing about the inconsistencies in later Halo games (after 3) on one thread, and I had flamers writing entire essays, nay, entire thesis papers on why a statement similar to your own is completely wrong!

As much as I like Halo, the universe did get a bit convoluted toward the end. I can't name anything in the first three games or the first few books, but after that it's gone haywire...
I know. It's just a shame because the universe is very appealing to me but all the random crap is just crazy. It also bugs me how the marines armor seems to change EVERY game.
 

Canadamus Prime

Robot in Disguise
Jun 17, 2009
14,331
0
0
Scorched_Cascade said:
They say that Jak is his descendant but it is heavily implied by the sage/otsel characters that Jak IS Mar as well as his descendant. I.e he time travelled back built haven city and fathered a child who then fathered a child until Jak was born.

Basically they imply that he is his own ancestor. So the timeline looks like this:

-Jak is born the descendant of mar and grows up in a city at war with metal heads.
-He is captured but later saved by the resistance and future Jak.
-Child Jak then opens the temple of mar for future Jak who is too tainted to do so himself.
-Future Jak saves the city
-Child Jak is sent back in time to the past with the young green sage as his guide/mentor.
-Events of Jak+Daxter 1
-Jak, Kiera and Daxter repair the old time machine and activate it this allows the metal head leader entry into the past world from the future and his conquest begins creating a stable time loop.
-Jak is sent into the future and saves the city while picking up artifacts Mar left behind in the past
-Jak saves the world from the Dark Makers
-Jak time travels to the past with the otsel makers for unknown reason
-???
-Jak (Mar) travels back to the past to build Haven city and temples that he had already used in the future by using mako. He leaves behind his armour and other artifacts.
-Jak (Mar) fathers children one of whom is the ancestor of Jak.
-Jak is born the descendant of Mar and grows up in a city at war with metal heads
It's clever but it makes your brain hurt.
"The fate of the world, nay, all worlds depends on you, Philip J. Fry... er, I mean Jak."
 

Little_grim

New member
Jan 26, 2011
1
0
0
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Any CtF game: Why can't you teleport with a flag?
Teleporting with a flag will rip a hole in the space time continuum... Come on buddy... didn't you take science in high school.
 

mireko

Umbasa
Sep 23, 2010
2,003
0
0
Shoggoth2588 said:
Mass Effect 2 & Dragon Age 2: If you played the Kasumi Loyalty mission, you may have noticed a statue of an Ogre from DA:O/ DA2. If that was there then it could be argued that Ferelden and it's Earth coexist with Shepard. Looking closely at default, Male Hawke, you can kind of see something familiar:

-image-

My current theory involves Hawk being a son of Shepard since Shepard's Earth is ours IE: no biotics/ magic until after the discovery of Mass Effect Drives. That one isn't a plot hole: just an insane theory.
Actually.. If Mass Effect is set in our universe (I'm assuming it is), then that universe would have contained Dragon Age at some point. Why they would have a statue of an enemy from a game that is centuries old is a completely different matter, maybe it's an acquired taste.

Come to think of it, that leads to something even weirder. Since BioWare and Dragon Age existed centuries ago in the Mass Effect universe, we can assume Mass Effect (the game) did as well. The only conclusion is that they can predict the future and all the events of the game will actually happen.
 

Ordinaryundone

New member
Oct 23, 2010
1,568
0
0
baddude1337 said:
The crazy number of inconsistencies/retcons in Halo games, such as Noble being mainly Spartan 3's even though nobody knows about them, and theres even a Spartan 2 on the team. How all the spartans seem to have regenerating shields even though chief is the only one who actually has the armor to do that, and that fact that it is Spartan 3's who are using this armor, How the Spartan's in Halo Wars have shields even though they hadn't been invented yet. That's just a small number of the many problems.
Eh, the Shields examples can really be attributed to gameplay. Sure, they could have used the stamina excuse that ODST had, but I suppose they decided to simply call a spade a spade and just have shields. Bungie's motto in these regards seems to be "the games are the canon, everything else defers to them". Plus, Noble is a special example of a Spartan squad, so its perfectly reasonable to assume they have better armor than your typical Spartan III.

As for them actually being Spartan IIIs, how is that a plothole? Its not like they go around telling everyone; in fact, its possible that nobody on Reach can tell a difference between, say, Carter and Jorge. To your average UNSC, a Spartan is a Spartan. As for having a Spartan 2 on the team, I don't really know why they bothered, but it doesn't really bother me. Jorge seemed to have a connection to Reach beyond simply being stationed there; its possible he volunteered to serve on a squad based out of it. Or maybe he just liked the team itself. There are many reasons why he'd choose to work with Spartan 3s, and we don't know enough backstory on the character to really choose one.