Nah it would only be incest if he displaced his natural grandfather to sleep with his grandmother (classic grandfather paradox) instead he is fathering a child with a woman when he would not otherwise have existed.believer258 said:
It's still a bit weird, seeing as the Spartan 3's weren't even known to the 2's, and seeing as all the 2's grew up with each other, he must have thought something was up as he did not know any of them.Ordinaryundone said:
While playing Mass Effect and looking around at planets, some of them are labeled as being on reserve lists since they could one day harbor life (it's in there: those planet descriptions can get a bit wordy). I think the planet on which Dragon Age takes place is a planet that is in Council Space so therefore, The Council has made it illegal to interfere with it (which didn't stop certain people). It's strange that humans would evolve up on Earth and the Earth of DA:O/DA2 but it could be that the Humans, Dwarves and, Elves are all different versions of a singular species, with the main humanoid species living in a sort of transitional period between Darwinian extinctions.mireko said:
1. Inorite?Euhan01 said:
Well, once again, Bungie sees the games as the foremost source of canon, with books and other EU coming in second. If a game says that a Spartan 2 was on a squad of Spartan 3s, then thats just the way it is, and it can be retroactively inferred that, obviously, not all Spartan 2s were ignorant of the Spartan 3s (which, really, makes more sense to me than having them be completely unknown). The best example, of course, is Halo: Reach itself. Its completely different than The Fall of Reach in nearly every regard, but for now is regarded as the actual events of the battle. Games overwrite EU canon-wise. Ditto with Shields on Spartan 3s and in Halo Wars, but I think that was more a retcon of gameplay necessity than a deliberate story retcon.baddude1337 said:
Humans evolving on multiple planets isn't entirely unfeasible if the climate is similar, really. We have many examples of organisms acquiring similar traits without ever coming into contact with eachother. If the planet with Ferelden/Kirkwall/etc is a lot like Earth (and it seemed to be in DA), then humanoid life is entirely within the realm of possibility, since the human form was optimal enough for our species to survive here.[footnote]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_evolution[/footnote]Shoggoth2588 said:
Chris screwed up his plans in RE1 and in RE: Code Veronica, and on other occasions. He's been a pretty constant thorn in Wesker's side since Raccoon City.Lieju said:
Well, it was untested, for one. Birkin and Wesker had an idea of what it would do, but Wesker using it on himself was its first real trial. Also, Birkin did most of the work on it, and was killed in RE2 presumably before he could make more.
As far as the ending of RE3 goes, Sherry is in the hands of the government and Barry is either with his family in Canada or helping Chris and Jill. Steve is dead, as far as we know. No real evidence has been given to him being anything other than dead.
Eh, its RE. This isn't exactly classical literature we are dealing with.
As far as RE 1, 2, and CV to a degree, the architects who designed the buildings were certifiably insane or working on a commission to make everything as obtuse as possible for security reasons. Usually both.
Movie logic. Its not a plothole, just plot-contrived conveniences. After all, we wouldn't have gotten a cool fight scene if they'd just shown up to see a dead guy in a wheelchair.
Well, I'm tempted to say "Its RE" again, but honestly, yeah. It was pretty dumb. Though I do find the idea of Rebecca going on this huge adventure and saving the day, just to show up at the Spencer Estate and have everyone treat her like dead weight to be hilarious.
-Chris and Jill stopped him from successfully esacping the Spencer Mansion with the BOW combat data when he defected from Umbrella. I never finished Code Veronica, but I'd assumed Chris got in the way there too.Lieju said:
Explained, and justified with the scavenging (unlike every other shooter), in the expanded universe. Basically, there are standing orders for all Marines, ODSTs and SPARTANs to collect any and all Covenant technology they find in battle, so the ONI spooks can do whatever research necessary to replicate that technology. Bear in mind that it's perfectly reasonable to assume that we'll still be using similar weaponry and such in 500 years time as we do now, it's not a big logical leap really. In the books, however, it's stated that ONI haven't been able to replicate Covenant technology perfectly, which is why there are only certain things that are Covenant-based (particularly shield systems and artificial gravity) that humans can use. Thus the scavenging is justified and it explains how the characters can use Covenant technology, without having access to it through their usual weapon choices...ReinofFire said:
Except that Wesker had planned his death and it all went to plan. Why he'd want to fake his death like that is another plot-hole, or something like it. If he expected Chris and Jill to die, why fool them into thinking he died?Ordinaryundone said:
And yet they made a big deal out of G-virus even though there was a better super-soldier-serum around. I guess it could be explained Will was just so in love with his precious he didn't consider Wesker's virus interesting enough.
According to Wesker's report he took Sherry.
Which doesn't change the fact that they are plot-holes. Caused by the franchise consisting of that many games with different people working on different ones.
I still count that as a plot-hole, especially since they make an attempt at explaining it. Ada knew Wesker was coming there, Jill and Chris got a tip, most likely from Ada. But it's still a huge coincidence.
She just never mentions it, even when they talk about Umbrella in Re1/Remake. Not to mention the timelines don't really fit.
No they didn't. Sergei and the Red Queen did(as we see in Umbrella Chronicles). Apart from that the whole thing with Wesker's death went according to his plan. Except maybe for Jill and Chris surviving, but if he wanted them to die, why bother faking his death in a way that required them to survive and report him dead?starwarsgeek said:
Birkin tested the virus on animals and reported decent success http://residentevil.wikia.com/Virus_Memostarwarsgeek said:
Like, for how long was John (The one Ada dated) the head researcher at Arklay? I recall trying to find that out some time ago for a fanfic I was writing and different memos and raports giving different dates for when he came from Chicago.starwarsgeek said:
But you could still find all the emblems and whatnot.starwarsgeek said:
Rebecca has this whole adventure before the events in the mansion, fighting tyrants, zombie-monkeys and giant bats in an another mansion before that. And yet she never mentions this to anyone and is defenseless against one hunter, despite killing dozens of them just few hours ago.starwarsgeek said:
Not really. Even if the world is very similar climate-vice, it would take quite a lot of coincidences to end up with a similar humanoid structure. It isn't even particularly good design choice and is a result of an accident more than anything. Humans are the only ones on this planet with this structure, so it isn't that advantageous. It works, sure, but it isn't that great a design, (especially in humans where it developed from a non-erect form so our muscles and organs are all stupidly placed). So why would evolution end up with something similar in a totally different world?mireko said:
Er, that's completely answerable actually.wouldyoukindly99 said:
Well, Wesker doesn't seem to care because he's a smug bastard. Even if Chris did seriously screw things up for him, Wesker would never show it. Hell, even through RE5 where Chris is throwing a wrench into nearly all of Wesker's machinations, he doesn't even get angry until near the very end when literally everything is over.Lieju said:
Well, Birkin never got a chance to really see the effect IIRC. Wesker went into hiding after RE1, and RE2 happened shortly after. And like you said, Birkin was in love with G-Virus. It was his life's work, and he considered it superior to everything, even T-Veronica. Guy had an ego the size of a truck, so its fairly believable he'd snub the results of rebirth even if they were presented to him.
Didn't Wesker just say he recovered Steve's body? I mean, the virus is still in him but I doubt Wesker would have had any interest in reviving Steve. He probably just wanted the T-Veronica sample. As for Sherry, who knows? That story has long since stopped being relevant as G-Virus never came up again. I actually like the idea of her being safe with the government better, as it gives a more closed reason as to why she never shows back up.
Timeline inconsistencies don't necessarily equal plot-holes. In movies it happens all the time: The hero has only a minute to disarm a bomb but the scene takes longer. No one considers it a plothole, its simply done for drama. Likewise, not all the games fit absolutely perfectly together, but thats done more for the sake of storytelling than anything.
I doubt its from Ada, as she has no idea (as far as we know) who Chris or Jill are. My guess: Spencer sent it. He knew Wesker was coming to visit, and he knew it probably wasn't a social call, so who better to call for help than Wesker's archrival? If Chris had made it just a few minutes earlier its very possible Wesker would have tried to kill him before Spencer, and it might have saved his life. No one else would rank that high on Wesker's kill on sight chart.
To be fair, no one really asks her where she has been, so maybe she'd feel rude bringing it up? After all, they did have bigger problems at the moment, and she wouldn't want to let anyone know about Billy. And yeah, the story is pretty aimless, but I kinda got that vibe from most of the early RE games. 1 and 3, especially. Though nearly all of them have heroes who sort of just wander about until the run into the story. Its probably why 4 and 5 feel so different.
