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Honestly, it was horrible. If they were going to use a puppet, they should have contacted the guys that made the first one, because it didn't even look right. They may as well have just gone right ahead with the CGI.necromanzer52 said:...Why?SckizoBoy said:Ep1 Yoda was pure sacrilege.
"We're not going to fight...ANYMORE!!!"Weealzabob said:While it sounds like I'm being a hipster, I don't like to say I have "guilty pleasures", just movies that I should probably know better than to like.
On topic! Deep Blue Sea and Jurassic Park 3. Both are really silly, but so boldly entertaining, I have to love them.
"You ate my bird."Jazoni89 said:"We're not going to fight...ANYMORE!!!"
*get's eaten by a shark from behind*
Brilliant stuff.
Hmm, I knew he was considered for the role but I didn't realise Burton was so set on him.prince_xedar said:It's just my personal opinion, and that fact that he was Tim Burton's first choice is also a huge indication of just what could have been.
in this tone then, Do you prefer Nicholson's Joker or Ledger's Joker?
I feel the same with this movie. I actually like it a lot.Marter said:Something like <url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.237678-2-50-Reviews-Underworld-2003>Underworld comes to mind when I think about "guilty pleasure" films. Although I don't get that feeling, as I actually do believe it to be a great film, I think it would qualify for what you're looking for.
i own Starship Troopers on Bluray. I might get 3 but i cannot stand the piece of shit that is twoCasual Shinji said:A lot of guilty pleasures here that I actually consider to be quite respectable pleasures; The Iron Giant, Predator, Wallace & Gromit, Who Framed Roger Rabbit. These are like classics. Next thing you're gonna say The Lost Boys is a guilty pleasure.
Hudson Hawk
Howard the Duck
Last Action Hero
Starship Troopers
Now those are some real guilty pleasures.
I wouldn't say one beats the other, they both have their merits. While Nicholson's Joker is funny, and dare i say it a bit campy, i think Ledger's joker is wild and unpredictable, that you cant control him, and therefore i would say it is more loyal to the joker we see in the comics. So i personally prefer Ledger's Joker, because im a big comic book nerd. Also i prefer Nolan's Batman movies, because even though the tend to shy away from the more comic booky ideas, i could see it happening in the real world, which attracts meIndianaJonny said:Hmm, I knew he was considered for the role but I didn't realise Burton was so set on him.prince_xedar said:It's just my personal opinion, and that fact that he was Tim Burton's first choice is also a huge indication of just what could have been.
in this tone then, Do you prefer Nicholson's Joker or Ledger's Joker?
As for Heath Ledger, well first I'd have to make the skeptical comment that his portrayal would not have been widely lauded (largely by the non-comic-savvy media) as it was had it not been his last role - in the same way that Bella Lugosi's appearance in Plan 9 from Outer Space was immortalised by the fact he died half way through production - that's not to detract from their performance, it's just they were given an unusual emphasis.
Having said that, I prefer Ledger's Joker but only because it reflects the incarnation of the Joker I find the most appealing. There have been many incarnations of the Joker and while Nicholson catches the more 'goony' Golden Age/Silver Age villian with a nasty streak, Ledger's portrayal is more akin to the 'counter-Batman' - a Joker who defines himself and justifies his existence as the antithesis to the Dark Knight and that closeness between these two heavyweights, the Joker and the Bat, is, I find, their conflict at its most compelling.
Anyhow, I waffled on a bit there; would you say one portrayal shines through more than the other?