FBI and Australian Police Raid Xbox 720 Leaker's House
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Moosejaw said:
Yeah, somehow I think the US would be a bit more subtle in a country that has their global ElInt network by the balls, has a set of radar arrays that have always been able to defeat airborne stealth systems and probably knows almost as much about the US's curent and next gen of long range recon drones as the US does...
It is freakish how all countries bend over to USA domestic police or rather corporate interests, I wonder how they would respond if this went in the other direction.
Sure if the man broke laws authorities need to prosecute him, but those need to be legal authorities which FBI outside USA is not.
Sure if the man broke laws authorities need to prosecute him, but those need to be legal authorities which FBI outside USA is not.
FBI Down Under. Over kill or what? Yes, he's guilty (and a moron) but "looking for loopholes" to extradite him for trial and imprisonment in the USA? Get ****ed. He broke the law in Australia, and I doubt the AFP or even freaking ASIO would has anywhere near as much clout to extradite an American for trial and imprisonment in Australia. And because this guy's crime is hacking, who KNOWS what bogus, 'example setting' crap will be thrown at him in the USA! Anyway, even if the guy goes to prison, he'll get visitation and the right to contact family. Yet taking him overseas to prison would rob that from him and put undue stress on him and his loved ones. Let Australia handle our criminals, huh? Novel idea, I know.
Coming for thiefs, is that all the FBI is doing these days with the tax payer's money?
And what they want in Australia?
This is slightly out of perspective...
And what they want in Australia?
This is slightly out of perspective...
Not really, considering we spend over 26 times the amount of money on defense than Australia does. Hell, Australia doesn't even have nukes and we've been droning the shit out of a country (Pakistan) that has them.RhombusHatesYou said:
Furthermore, people in Australia aren't American. As we all know, that means they aren't real people, so we only care if American citizens get blown up. Scratch that, we only care if American citizens are blown up if they aren't Middle Eastern (a.k.a., Terrorists). Wait, no, I mean American women. And they have to be white. And pretty. Also, children. But only the white ones.
Anyway, my point is, why are we wasting our time having an FBI agent hunt around for loopholes around some foreign country when we can just hellfire the bastard and get it over with. Dead men don't need trials, after all!
The presence of the FBI agent can mean two things - either "OMG international nazi moon templar conspirazy!!!!" or police forces co-operate in international corporate espionage. My money is on him being requested by the Australians in order to bring specialist knowledge of the system in question, or the FBI were the ones who investigated the matter and co-operated with Australian police in order to catch a criminal. There will probably be Australian officers working with the FBI on the American side of the investigation to - are we going to hear comments screaming "Australia has no right to police the world"?
Looking for loopholes thing? Yeah...I'm really going to trust the word of someone who has just been arrested for theft. Either there is a clear cut case for extradition, or there isn't, and an Australian judge will decide. No need to look for loopholes - more likely that the criminal in question will be the one looking for loopholes.
Looking for loopholes thing? Yeah...I'm really going to trust the word of someone who has just been arrested for theft. Either there is a clear cut case for extradition, or there isn't, and an Australian judge will decide. No need to look for loopholes - more likely that the criminal in question will be the one looking for loopholes.
We build a few, set them off, got bored with them and stopped. Same with rocketry. 3rd nation to put an object into orbit, got bored firing shit into space, found something else to do.Moosejaw said:
Hmmm... one dead annoyance Vs losing most of your Elint for Asia... doesn't sound like a good trade.
I believe he should be tried and put to his sentence in AUstralia, by Austrlian laws, as he is a citizen of Australia. He did not comit his crime outside of AUstralian borders (no, ebay is not American borders) so he should not be extradited.
beside that, good, leaks are what made the PS4 presentation "yeah, we know this already, tell us something new" type of deal.
beside that, good, leaks are what made the PS4 presentation "yeah, we know this already, tell us something new" type of deal.
Actually, where exactly computer related crime occurs is a big question in legal circles.Strazdas said:
Does it occur where the commands are originally sent from or where they are executed?
The answer is "which ever one you choose there are dozens of courts around the world that disgree with you."
The guy talks a big game, and gives a lot of grief to people with his tweets. It's almost unheard of when somebody on the internet actually gets their comeuppance. Still...that's a petty thought.
It sounds like he's an actual Microsoft dev, and a true fanboy at that. So why would he break whatever NDA he signed and spill the specs online? It...makes no sense whatsoever. Maybe he just fell on hard times. I know I have.
Whatever he really intended with the dev kit, it sure didn't sound like he was joking about the sale of it.
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I say leave him to the Australian authorities. Microsoft is having enough trouble as it is, much less being seen as a corporate overlord commanding US law enforcement.
It sounds like he's an actual Microsoft dev, and a true fanboy at that. So why would he break whatever NDA he signed and spill the specs online? It...makes no sense whatsoever. Maybe he just fell on hard times. I know I have.
Whatever he really intended with the dev kit, it sure didn't sound like he was joking about the sale of it.
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I say leave him to the Australian authorities. Microsoft is having enough trouble as it is, much less being seen as a corporate overlord commanding US law enforcement.
was going to post a long drawn out post about everyone acting like "OMG AMERICAN JACK BOOTED THUGS ARE OVERREACHING THER POWER AND ENFORCING THERE WILL WITH AN IRON GRIP!!!!!" and comment on all the anti-America vitriol but this chap here basically said everything needed.GonvilleBromhead said:
thank you kind sir for being the calm voice in a stormy sea.
I thought that the FBI was only allowed to handle things inside the U.S. CIA handles things outside of the U.S. So confused.
Anyway, I hope they throw the book at this guy. Sounds like he has no respect for anyone but himself. People like him make me angry because they bleed arrogance and try to make it look like they're the victim when they were the one breaking the law.
Anyway, I hope they throw the book at this guy. Sounds like he has no respect for anyone but himself. People like him make me angry because they bleed arrogance and try to make it look like they're the victim when they were the one breaking the law.
You really want to go down that road? We helped in WW1 as well.AstaresPanda said:
OP:Why the hell is the FBI in Australia? Aren't they supposed to only deal with domestic crimes?
I guess that makes sense, but now I really want to see what would happen when a Chinese citizen does this because if I recall properly, China almost always refuses to to extradite its citizens and it doesn't seem to care that it has citizens that make and sell knockoffs.RhombusHatesYou said:
Good. The douchebag deserved it. If memory serves me correctly, if you're contracted or whatever to work on confidential/classified tech.. There's an NDA you MUST sign. Break the NDA? You're fucked.
Die in a fire, "SuperDaE".
Also, huh. At least the West Australian police here are good at *something*. Good.
And some people seemed to read half a story. Wasn't just the FBI, you "MAH FREEDOMZ ;_______________;" twats. Australian police were heavily involved as well. Again, die in *all* the fires, SuperDaE. I may not like Microsoft's Xbox division as much these days, but fuck you to anyone who takes on confidential, NDA-signed work and then tries to be a douche by "selling the info".
Die in a fire, "SuperDaE".
Also, huh. At least the West Australian police here are good at *something*. Good.
And some people seemed to read half a story. Wasn't just the FBI, you "MAH FREEDOMZ ;_______________;" twats. Australian police were heavily involved as well. Again, die in *all* the fires, SuperDaE. I may not like Microsoft's Xbox division as much these days, but fuck you to anyone who takes on confidential, NDA-signed work and then tries to be a douche by "selling the info".