FCC Chair To Revise Horrible Proposed Net Neutrality Rules

Callate

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It sounds like they're hoping those affected will shout "We won!" and go home... and stop bothering them.

We'll see.
 

RJ Dalton

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I guess when that one company started threatening to throttle all the porn on the internet, it got someone's attention.
 

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Wonder Mike said:
Tom Wheeler is nothing but an ISP crony. He will do everything in his power to destroy net neutrality and sell us all out for the massive profits the monopolies pay him to commit his treason against Americans. Tom Wheeler is the poster boy for the proper use of the death penalty, execute the politicians that ignore the will of the people.
Keep posting stuff like this and you won't last long. This shit is for youtube. Do not make threats here lest you incur moderator wrath.

Housekeeping aside, just more bullshit. However, having the likes of Microsoft and Amazon on our side is useful. We could use some of the other heavy hitters as well. If Google announced their opposition, it would be massive.
 

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As a Canadian who lives right at the border, I see this going on and all I can think about is this spaceballs clip

http://youtu.be/kD516OENN7s

Now that thats out of the way, if this goes through, we are all screwed. It is just the first step in the direction that will lead to the companies ruling the internet, and what we can say on them.
 

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Meanwhile in Romania you get broadband internet at almost no cost. Why? Because people there in general are poor enough that you can't charge them 100x for their internet of what it's actually worth, and the ISPs there aren't foolish enough to try and lose the market they have. I'm not concerned that this will lead to overpriced internet outside the US, "worst" case important services will have to put their servers outside the US, and I think that right there is a reason the US government shouldn't be doing that. It'll cut into their own big data/spy economy if they scare away the services.
 

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Zaydin said:
With Republican opposition...
Stop, right there.

This issue has absolutely nothing to do with party politics and you bringing them into this is intellectual bankruptcy.

The issue is not one that even has to enter any vote by any party in any way.

The FCC simply needs to reclassify ISPs as CCCs.
It is literally as easy as it sounds and the
Supreme Court *instructed* Wheeler that *any*
rules he wants to enforce on ISPs will be thrown
out until he does it.
 

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Symion said:
Zaydin said:
With Republican opposition...
Stop, right there.

This issue has absolutely nothing to do with party politics and you bringing them into this is intellectual bankruptcy.

The issue is not one that even has to enter any vote by any party in any way.

The FCC simply needs to reclassify ISPs as CCCs.
It is literally as easy as it sounds and the
Supreme Court *instructed* Wheeler that *any*
rules he wants to enforce on ISPs will be thrown
out until he does it.
Prominent republicans have spoken out many times against net neutrality moves that the FCC made in the past. They supported the court ruling that got the previous net neutrality rules thrown out. That being said, you are correct in your statement that the simplest fix would be to reclassify ISPs as common carriers. However, the ISPs would surely sue again and I am not hopeful for any decision passed down by the current, right-leaning, supreme court. Whether you like it or not this is very much a political issue.
 

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He only came in last November!?

Is this like his first big change he's in charge of? Quite the first impression he's making, really showing his roots.

I have to wonder what the criteria for that position is [footnote]Other than, "I know a guy"[/footnote]? You would think that people with heavy ties to the industry you're trying to regulate would be among the least trustworthy people to have in that position...
 

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ike42 said:
Prominent republicans have spoken out many times against net neutrality moves that the FCC made in the past. They supported the court ruling that got the previous net neutrality rules thrown out. That being said, you are correct in your statement that the simplest fix would be to reclassify ISPs as common carriers. However, the ISPs would surely sue again and I am not hopeful for any decision passed down by the current, right-leaning, supreme court. Whether you like it or not this is very much a political issue.
Yes and Wheeler is another of a long line of insular crony hires by the Obama administration, who has the actual power to fix the issue.

You see how there's enough blame to share around to both parties? Its a staple of American politics and its why party politics are a big circle-jerk to be avoided in any situation where possible (Such as this)

I too oppose the rules. Am I some ISP stooge?

No, the FCC putting up rules they can't enforce on Title 1 companies is in-fact a bad thing.
The solution: Make them Title 2 Utilities where the government has the power and right to
do such regulation.
 

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I actually had a peek at a draft of Tom's proposed revisions.

It was a doodle of himself flipping a bird with large, block-lettering underneath reading:

"EAT IT!"
 

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tangoprime said:
Adam Jensen said:
Tanis said:
Tom Wheeler is a traitor to the American ideal.

Tom Wheeler is a wolf watching the hen house.

Tom Wheeler needs to be fired.
He won't be fired. He was hired by Obama who's just as crooked as Wheeler. The people need to sign the petition demanding his resignation for the White House to even consider it.
Pretty much this. So many of his (even top level) appointees are crooked as hell, and Wheeler was a former cable industry lobbyist. How a "former" cable industry lobbyist gets to be in an appointed position in charge of the bureaucracy that regulates the cable industry is pretty clear, and the same story with pretty much every "scandal" since President Obama took office- either he's completely crooked, or completely incompetent. Neither of these are acceptable traits in a leader, especially the chief executive of a nation.
The man is poison and one way or another he needs to be removed from his position. Here is the petition. At least it's a voice.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-tom-wheeler-his-position-fcc-chairman/58HFrZ7t

What further disgusts me is how Obama claims to support an open internet yet he's the one who appointed Wheeler.

I'm so seriously fed up with the way things are being run here that I've begun looking into this

http://www.wolf-pac.com/ Anything to try and break the cycle of money in politics.
 

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2 different people calling for the death penalty / execution because someone is messing with your internet.

This is why no one takes you seriously American people, because the crazy statement ring louder than the reasonable.
 

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Elijin said:
2 different people calling for the death penalty / execution because someone is messing with your internet.

This is why no one takes you seriously American people, because the crazy statement ring louder than the reasonable.
internet now is actually considered human right, so basically Wheeler is going to break human rights of US people. thats quite a crime hes doing there, but of course as long as corporations pay enough noone cares. I dont support his execution, mind you, but i do think he needs to be replaced by someone competent to do the job.
 

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Elijin said:
2 different people calling for the death penalty / execution because someone is messing with your internet.

This is why no one takes you seriously American people, because the crazy statement ring louder than the reasonable.
I don't agree with the death rhetoric either but this is a very volatile and important issue and yes it is a human rights issue so I understand and empathize with people's frustration and disgust on this. Remember this WILL eventually effect YOUR internet as well.
 

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The broadband/cable industry needs to be re-regulated fucking yesterday. Ever since they were deregulated in the mid-90s, we've seen nothing but price gouging, technological stagnation, and horrendous service - essentially the polar opposites of everything deregulation promises us. Now Comcast is talking about data-capping service plans, which might conceivably have a purpose (on the very high end)... if they weren't already charging Netflix and (presumably) other companies for greater speeds and access on the front end. We're a first world nation and a supposed world leader, yet we have some of the absolute slowest and most expensive broadband access in the developed world. We desperately need competition to spur innovation and curtail prices in this crucial space, yet the very government bodies created to protect consumers are busy allowing blatantly destructive super mergers and buyouts.

There's really no finer example of the myriad ways big business conspires with (or, more accurately, outright buys) our government to completely screw all of us. Then those very same big business assholes (or their unwitting "free market" libertarian underlings) will actually blame the government for all of the problems and subsequently insist on further deregulation. It'd be fucking hilarious if it weren't bankrupting the middle class.