Feds bust 72 users of a child porn forum.

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mjc0961 said:
Fuck their situation. Even if they didn't make it, they still used it rather than calling the police as soon as they found it so that less kids would be hurt in the future. I have no pity for these 72 people, my sympathies will be with the real victims of this (the children).
It is understandable that you would be angry at them since children are quite precious and abusing them in such a way is disgusting. However, they cannot help it. They have a mental disorder and the same way a schizophrenic person cannot look past their delusions those people can't look past their attraction towards children.

Do not be mistaken, I am all for punishing those who subject children to this form of abuse. However, those who watch it have no blame at all. They have a mental illness and they need help, not punishment. Punishment will not deter them from looking at child porn in the future and punishment will not deter them from pursuing those urges even further than just looking at videos.

I'm not saying they're victims, I'm saying they're mentally ill. They need professional help, someone who can teach them how to resist those urges. A person with a mental illness will do things that seem illogical to healthy individuals. Still, show some compassion. The sick people who abused those children deserve to be in some way rehabilitated or if not possible punished but those who watched the videos deserve to be helped. They did not think logically and neither did they act knowingly. Remember, they suffer from a mental illness. Their actions are not their own and cannot be considered their own.
 

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amucha98 said:
That's horrible! I hope those fuckers have a horrible time in prison.
Oh trust me... they will. You don't want to be a pedophile in a prison. Prisoners tend to get a bit... stabby, around pedophiles.
 

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as long as they don't hurt children why the fuck should anyone care what they masturbate to, you people make me sick, if a pedophile rapes or does something like that to a child lock him up for good but if a pedophile just faps to images of naked children WHY THE FUCK SHOULD YOU CARE, THEY AREN'T HURTING ANYONE. I hope my children can live in a world where anyone can do whatever the fuck they want as long as they don't hurt others. Seriously this was done to they gays before, they're "unnatural" we should kill them, heck it's still done in a few countries.
So you think we should allow people to support and/or encourage the creation of child pornography for the sake of their personal liberty? That is madness.

Drawn stuff? Allowing people to wallow in their own mental illness, eventually that wont be enough and they'll move on.

These people need dedicated treatment.
 

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arragonder said:
Valagetti said:
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Lock em up and throw away the key.


Is there any way we can legalize hitting them with hammer in the nuts every time they have a sick thought?
Some thrid world countries chemically castrate pedos, to be honest, its a pretty good idea. Drastic, but hell, no more repeat offenders!
making child porn is actively harmful, the only thing we condone is the use of loli hentai which is drawn child porn involving no real people, everything else by necessity involves actively hurting little children or supporting those that do.
If you search this forum, I mentioned somewhere that children being subjected to porn is pretty horrible. I rate it up with 1st degree murder... of innocence.
 

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halo3rulzer said:
amucha98 said:
That's horrible! I hope those fuckers have a horrible time in prison.
Oh trust me... they will. You don't want to be a pedophile in a prison. Prisoners tend to get a bit... stabby, around pedophiles.
Well, yeah, based on the bloodlust of people outside of prison for these guys it'd be pretty bad when the people are actually violent.
Jonabob87 said:
Drawn stuff? Allowing people to wallow in their own mental illness, eventually that wont be enough and they'll move on.
Citation needed here, that's quite a controversial point to make. Very little evidence either way, I believe. I have to say I think you're confusing the causality
 

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in cases like this, child molestation and child pornography i think there can be only one real solution. Put the offender in a room with the parents of the children, lock the door and walk away for an hour or so. you better believe justice will be dispensed
 

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Is paedophilia really a mental disorder? I thought it was just another fetish, like being attracted to feet or liking S&M. And I thought "child abuse" was just being sadistic, rather than some brain defect. Did Hitler have a condition that made him want the Jews gone, or was it just because he was an evil man with messed up ideals? I don't think it can be "cured" - people like what they like, and if they are evil they are evil.

While not being one myself, I'm annoyed that this further paints the non-abusing ones in a bad light. Everyone will paint them all with the same brush, when really, there is nothing wrong with the harmless ones (i.e. ones that don't frequent forums like the one in question and don't act on their desires [barring hentai]).
 

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I don't think these guys should get the death penalty: No no, lethal injection and the electric chair is To good for these fuckers.

These guys deserve a full on medieval style of execution: Like, tieing there arms to the back of a train, the legs to the back of another train and then have both trains drive off in opposite directions. Or good old fashioned Burning at the stake.

Might be sounding a bit cruel here but..Not only was child porn posted in that place, but these fuckers went one step beyond and willingly posted pictures of child torture. I am very big on never harming kids or minors ever, and i believe people who do so are some of if not THE worst scum ever to draw breath on planet earth. And they are fully deserving of having Karma come back and punch them so hard in the face their heads fly off.

I'd best stop here before i go off on to much more of a tangent

Fuselage said:
Well in prisons, the most hardened criminals hate child molesters, so one: They get raped by bubba or two: they get shanked with a shiv and bleed to death slowly.
That is why these fuckers deserve this.
If this isn't proof of 'even evil has standards' i don't know what is..
 

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Yeah, great news they've been caught and have been reminded of justice.

However, what I'm more interested is is the responses here from the Escapists. Every second post in this thread is incredibly hateful and is mostly along the lines of "torture them and kill them". Compare this response to the response of the Norway massacre and it is far more severe.

Some of us clearly think that trading child pornography images is morally worse than murdering seventy seven innocent people. It shows the taboo modern society places on paedophilia. Don't get me wrong, this isn't wholely a bad thing - I'm just a little concerned at how hateful many of us are reacting to this. Your vicious reactions and awfully emotional responses isn't good for anyone - not the legal system, not the victims and not yourself. The law must operate above these things and be calm and logical. We should strive to understand where these men went wrong rather than striving to demonise them and throw them out of sight.
 

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Baneat said:
6037084 said:
By viewing such material you are supporting the act in itself and by extension harming. Especially to the nth degree if any money is changing hands.

"You people make me sick" - Really?

Note: Drawn stuff.. bit more difficult, I'll err on the side of it really does no harm.
chances are that kids aren't harmed in the making of child pornography, if you take nude pictures of a 11 year old girl touching a penis then no physical harm was done I'm not a pedophile but the image people get when thinking of child pornography ( little kids getting raped, crying etc ) is probably waaaaaaaaaaayyyy over exaggerated ( some shit like that probably exists tho and people like that are no better than rapists), but if the world was a little bit more acceptive instead of throwing everyone that's different than the norm to jail then everything would be a lot better and pedophiles could actually be helped. besides people are born pedophiles, they cant fucking help it, it's the same fucking thing as being gay,
 

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Baneat said:
halo3rulzer said:
amucha98 said:
That's horrible! I hope those fuckers have a horrible time in prison.
Oh trust me... they will. You don't want to be a pedophile in a prison. Prisoners tend to get a bit... stabby, around pedophiles.
Well, yeah, based on the bloodlust of people outside of prison for these guys it'd be pretty bad when the people are actually violent.
Jonabob87 said:
Drawn stuff? Allowing people to wallow in their own mental illness, eventually that wont be enough and they'll move on.
Citation needed here, that's quite a controversial point to make. Very little evidence either way, I believe. I have to say I think you're confusing the causality
Citation? Uh, human nature?
 

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mjc0961 said:
AndyFromMonday said:
Pedophilia is a mental disorder. If the users of those forums did not create the child porn themselves then sentencing them to a prison will serve only to aggravate their situation. We should help them deal with their illness rather than ostracize them for having it.
Fuck their situation. Even if they didn't make it, they still used it rather than calling the police as soon as they found it so that less kids would be hurt in the future. I have no pity for these 72 people, my sympathies will be with the real victims of this (the children).
Heeeeello thought police.

I know what you mean but. This would be equal to you wanting to put the death sentence on people who stood by watching another guy getting beaten up.. Or a kid getting beaten up. Which happends all the time, with less of an uproar.

While I would certainly punish those people.. Looking at a crime being commited and not saying anything. Is not the same as commiting the actual crime.

Jonabob87 said:
Baneat said:
halo3rulzer said:
amucha98 said:
That's horrible! I hope those fuckers have a horrible time in prison.
Oh trust me... they will. You don't want to be a pedophile in a prison. Prisoners tend to get a bit... stabby, around pedophiles.
Well, yeah, based on the bloodlust of people outside of prison for these guys it'd be pretty bad when the people are actually violent.
Jonabob87 said:
Drawn stuff? Allowing people to wallow in their own mental illness, eventually that wont be enough and they'll move on.
Citation needed here, that's quite a controversial point to make. Very little evidence either way, I believe. I have to say I think you're confusing the causality
Citation? Uh, human nature?
Whooopdedo. We got another one. Worse perhaps.

Honestly. That would put all good-hearted christians behind bars if looking at drawings of underage child nudity is a crime. Without arguement most drawing of angels is just that.

Also. You have zero evidence to support your claim. Im sure a lot of people have looked at. . . Underage drawn characters and not becomes pedophiles. There is a very long jump from one to another.
 

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Jonabob87 said:
6037084 said:
So you think we should allow people to support and/or encourage the creation of child pornography for the sake of their personal liberty? That is madness.

Drawn stuff? Allowing people to wallow in their own mental illness, eventually that wont be enough and they'll move on.

These people need dedicated treatment.
The exact same thing could be said about gay people, and a while back gay people did get dedicated treatment, it just didn't help. I'm not saying it should be supported I'm just saying that pedophiles should be accepted as human beings not treated as the scum of the earth that should be thrown in jail for their entire life
 

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I always remember that one episode of Law and Order SVU when I hear about this kind of crap.
 

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Fuselage said:
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13 Out of 52 individuals have pleaded guilty and have been sentenced to prison terms as long as 30 years, serves the bastards right.
No...it doesn't. They need to be tortured and torn apart limb from limb. If i were them i would release the names of everyone on that list and when they are in prison or holding i would wander down the halls shouting "PEDOPHILE ON ROW! CHILD MOLESTING PEDOPHILE!" Monsters like this need to be destroyed. And hey. Just a note to the mods. If i get suspended for this it is a wrongful infraction. I've been on probation for 4 months now and no one has removed it lol.
Well in prisons, the most hardened criminals hate child molesters, so one: They get raped by bubba or two: they get shanked with a shiv and bleed to death slowly.
That is why these fuckers deserve this.
Prisons actually separate child molesters and normal criminals for that reason, after all, prison is a business, and pedo's are easier-contained cash cows compared to violent killers.

Ssssad Trrruths.
 

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And the guy in Norway who murdered 77 people is only getting 21 years. How's the justice system working for you?
 

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Im all for just executing them, but i suppose getting anally raped in prison will do.

But maybe its just me, but when i hear about this stuff and its like older guy x young boy, then like...no one brings up that the guy turned out gay, i mean some have wives...does she not care?
 

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NathLines said:
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72 people arrested... I want to make a joke without offending anybody but I don't want to receive hate...
Gotta catch 'em all?
Well, it was nice knowing you on this forum...

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