FFXIV Director: We Took Final Fantasy "For Granted"

[Charli]

I'm sorry SE but this game is going to HAVE to be the WoW Killer for me to revert my stance on your Bum fucking of the Final Fantasy franchise, I don't think you're quite self aware of how much you've killed this particular horse.

And are still beating it.

 

[crimson sickle2]

It's nice to see someone in the industry apologize instead of the usual response of:

Spoiler

 

[dalek sec]

whats up with all these developers and publishers realizing their mistakes and apologizing, instead of calling everyone entitled?

something "feels" wrong here, when it shouldnt be the case.

I remember someone in another thread saying that most publishers want a clean slate going into the next generation, because what with all the crap some have put us through they'd be worried it'll impact future sales.

Yeah, can't picture why publishers would be worried after all the crap we've had to put up from when the next generation of consoles comes out... /sarcasm]

And yet I just don't believe them, the sheer amount of ego we've have to put up with from the past generation has been very insulting to say the least. They want us to buy their products, they need to show that they can change for good and not pull this kind of crap again... though I rather doubt it.

 

[faefrost]

*Looks at article title*

*Looks at Final Fantasy: All the Bravest*

No, FFXVI Director, you still take Final Fantasy for granted.

I'm sorry but I can't take this seriously.

"The first one was us as a company being too comfortable in the Final Fantasy franchise. We took it for granted. We thought, 'Whatever game we make, players will play it.' I think that was a very big mistake we made."

Yeah that sounds well and good, but if they realized this back when XIV failed and have been working on this fixed version for years now, then why do they continue to push out titles like All the Bravest which exists for pretty much the exact same reason? "It's Final Fantasy, it has the sprites, they'll buy this!" And look where it got them.

It's a nice apology and all. Really a wonderful gesture, thank you. But the warning sign that the usual arrogance and stupidity of the game industry is still there, is that they still insist that we will pay a monthly subscription now for a game that they completely screwed up over a year ago. Really? You think we the sheep... I mean customers are that stupid? yeah! we will still support subscription as a valid business model for an MMO, provided you get it right on day one. If you fluq that up, please go to the back of the ftp line. I'll then decide if your sparkly ponies and hats deserve my funding.

 

[Carlston]

Far as I see it the nail in the coffin could be summed up in one spoken blurb.

"Friendly neighborhood gullwings."

The damage done in that one "game"

The horror.

The horror...

 

[ScruffyMcBalls]

whats up with all these developers and publishers realizing their mistakes and apologizing, instead of calling everyone entitled?

something "feels" wrong here, when it shouldnt be the case.

Yeah.... It's starting to get more than a little unsettling. Like then you think you've defeated a boss only a couple minutes into the fight.

 

[lapan]

whats up with all these developers and publishers realizing their mistakes and apologizing, instead of calling everyone entitled?

something "feels" wrong here, when it shouldnt be the case.

Yeah.... It's starting to get more than a little unsettling. Like then you think you've defeated a boss only a couple minutes into the fight.

Watch them transform into their final form where they confiscate all games older than 1 year, destroy all disc based copies and turn every game into a single console bound subscribtion system.

 

[lanceton]

... The subscription model was unrelated to the success of the game."

Very true indeed, if they make an EXCELLENT game, I don't mind paying $20 per month or more, and I am not going back to wow even if pandaria goes F2P today.

The pitfall they're facing here is that they are trying to make the game as appealing as possible to general mmorpg population by adopting way too many so-called mainstream features, to the extent they are losing their own style. They need to realize that these 'mainstream' features are becoming something different - something that are offered by F2P models that people are no longer willing to pay for.

FFXIV as it currently stands, has the POTENTIAL to become one of the greatest mmorpg of all time... whether that comes true depends on what they do in the next few months' testing and tuning. We'll see soon enough. Fingers crossed.

 

[Random Argument Man]

whats up with all these developers and publishers realizing their mistakes and apologizing, instead of calling everyone entitled?

something "feels" wrong here, when it shouldnt be the case.

So many publishers and developers seem to have found their marbles again, lately. This can't be a coincidence.

I have a bad feeling about this...

Well, I'll join your club because....



It scares the shit out of me too...

 

[ilexuki]

Lack of experience with mmos? so then what square enix mmo have i been playing for almost 10 years....i could have sworn it said final fantasy XI everytime i log in.

yea no, it's not lack of experience that caused ff14 to come out bad it's completely ignoring the years of experience and customer feedback, something SE does constantly.

they pretty much got rid of everything that made ff11 magical, kept things that were bad in 11, and infused a hefty dose of generic modern mmo into the mix to fill in the space.

 

[The Great JT]

You could make the argument that all the "main series" Final Fantasy games since number 7 (except Final Fantasy IX, obviously) have been more and more taking advantage of the fact that the words "Final Fantasy" are in their titles and sucking pretty hard. Call me insane, but can we all just collectively agree that Final Fantasy X, XII and XIII were at best not as good as others? Maybe scaling back the sci-fi/cybertech schizo tech crap would help, instead go the magic and steampunk route.

Never again will there be a Final Fantasy VI...excuse me, I need to have a sad.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Thank you Yoshida; Thank you for stating the fucking obvious.

whats up with all these developers and publishers realizing their mistakes and apologizing, instead of calling everyone entitled?

something "feels" wrong here, when it shouldnt be the case.

It's the blind-leading-the-blind, and they just heard the guy in the lead scream as he fell to his death.

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

Especially forcing FF13 down our throats with 13-2 and Lightning and whatever else. No one like 13 yet still they keep making sequels. They also ignore fan opinon. Its like they think "Tough.....your wrong....this is what you want". Im happy they did something new with 13, but if it doesnt work and fans dont like it, stop doing it.

 

[KingdomFantasyXIII]

You know, reading all these comments above me really puts me to shame of how fans can be so selfish and out right rude.

Square still develops a lot of other good games, even if you don't like the FInal Fantasy franchise (KH, DQ, TWEWY, Nier, The Last Remnant, Murdered: Soul Suspect, Star Ocean, etc)

They even develop good side game Final Fantasy (Type-0, Dissidia, Dissida 012, Theaterythem, etc). Hell, the company is even taking the time, money and supplies to redo an entire new game just to bridge the gap of trust that it broke with fans. I enjoyed Final Fantasy XIII but did not enjoy XIII-2 and now they are making a 3rd game. Am I saying "IT'S ALL OVER! SQUARE ENIX IS FINISHED!!! THE NINETIES SQUARE RULED AND THE MODERN DAY SQUARE SUCKED"? No, I'm not. Why? Because I know they make and publish many other good games that I can enjoy just as much.

And lets not forget the games they published as well (Deus Ex: HR, Htiman Absolution, sleeping dogs, Tomb Raider 2013, etc)

It's not like they don't make or publish bad games either though (Mindjack, All The Bravest, The Third Birthday, Front Mission Evolved, Kayne and Lynch 2, etc), but what gaming company doesn't? The point is, Many gaming companies don't allow such employees to be this personal on a game's quality and allows such workers to be this open with their fans. So shut up and be thankful that a gaming company is willing to be open and honest when they know they have screwed up.

 

[LordLundar]

So many publishers and developers seem to have found their marbles again, lately. This can't be a coincidence.

I have a bad feeling about this...

When the next game crash occurs due to arrogance they're hoping to say to their investors "We don't know what happened. We tried to make amends, see? Now can we have more money?"

Lip service. That's all it is.