Fight like a .... coward?
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I was nearly robbed once, a few house moves ago. I caught some teenager in our house trying to make off with my grama's (completely useless) balance book.
Instead of thinking I was being robbed, I thought my brother had invited one of his friends over at the crack of dawn, as he often did.
So I walked toward him. "Are you one of Jerry's friends?"
The kid nearly pissed himself, slowly placed the balance book on the dining table, slowly backed out to the back patio, & he was gone.
Don't know how he got in (or out) in the first place; The back yard fence is like 10ft high & the gates can only be opened from the back yard.
We found out that the would-be-thief was the visiting grandson of our next door neighbor. That was a really shitty neighborhood, I could tell you stories......Thank gawd we rent; it's so easy to just move without waiting for the next residents to move in.
Instead of thinking I was being robbed, I thought my brother had invited one of his friends over at the crack of dawn, as he often did.
So I walked toward him. "Are you one of Jerry's friends?"
The kid nearly pissed himself, slowly placed the balance book on the dining table, slowly backed out to the back patio, & he was gone.
Don't know how he got in (or out) in the first place; The back yard fence is like 10ft high & the gates can only be opened from the back yard.
We found out that the would-be-thief was the visiting grandson of our next door neighbor. That was a really shitty neighborhood, I could tell you stories......Thank gawd we rent; it's so easy to just move without waiting for the next residents to move in.
No I have never been robbed, but I have to say no amount of money is worth getting shot/stabbed/beat up over. Its a very different story if harm was going to come to me if I gave up the money or not in that case I'd put up a fight. Your actions weren't cowardly in the least in my opinion.BiscuitTrouser said:
I... Buh.... Th.... STOP USING LOGIC TO CRUSH MY DREAMS!Lead Herring said:
It's weird, I've felt the kind of tiredness that'll stop a man from doing anything but walking (Duke of Edinburgh hiking is a total *****) but I seem to believe that in a fight, I'd never be able to give up thanks to... I don't know, it just never really seems an option for me.
Way to invalidate your opinion by spouting random "honor code" bullcrap after a fair opinion. Its fine to call me a coward. Feel free. Id fight damn hard for things i love and for things that matter to me. Ten quid? Not really. Not at all. I couldnt give less of a shit. To be a coward is to let the things you love be taken away. To be a smart man is to let go of the things you know wont hurt you if they are taken. I know ill fight for things that matter. You can die for 10 pounds. I wont. Im living to fight a battle worth fighting.scar_47 said:
So it's normal for people to take pictures of themselves after they were beaten?InterAirplay said:
No, you have self preservation instincts. most people would roll over and prtoect themselves more then their possessions. so you did the right thing. Its better to let a person who can handle the situation in the right way (an officer of the law), then handle it yourself.
I kinda wish i had the luxury. But my family has a lot of ex-military, from each of teh five branches. And all taught me how to fight since I was four, saying i would need it one day to protect myself. I was always taught to approach the situation head on, to not back down, to not show weakness. Its not much of an option for me to not fight, cause if i go home and my family hears that I just rolled over, I'd get a rather severe beating and "reteaching" of some lessons. In my family, we have four rules:
No blood no tears
No scar no excuse
If you get into a fight, either go down fighting, or walk out winning
If you die, make sure you take someone with you*
*amended: or at least leave them something to remember you by.
Now of course we'd be insane to enforce all of those, and while no one in my family wants another to die, for some reason we like to think its better if you died fighting or of old age then died like a puss.
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However, I usually dont get messed with anymore. Ever since... Oh, had to have been since November of last year (I got mugged and shamefully lost), i've been carrying a rather large and noticable knife that once you see, you have some second thoughts about pissing with the person carrying it.
I kinda wish i had the luxury. But my family has a lot of ex-military, from each of teh five branches. And all taught me how to fight since I was four, saying i would need it one day to protect myself. I was always taught to approach the situation head on, to not back down, to not show weakness. Its not much of an option for me to not fight, cause if i go home and my family hears that I just rolled over, I'd get a rather severe beating and "reteaching" of some lessons. In my family, we have four rules:
No blood no tears
No scar no excuse
If you get into a fight, either go down fighting, or walk out winning
If you die, make sure you take someone with you*
*amended: or at least leave them something to remember you by.
Now of course we'd be insane to enforce all of those, and while no one in my family wants another to die, for some reason we like to think its better if you died fighting or of old age then died like a puss.
.....
However, I usually dont get messed with anymore. Ever since... Oh, had to have been since November of last year (I got mugged and shamefully lost), i've been carrying a rather large and noticable knife that once you see, you have some second thoughts about pissing with the person carrying it.
Does a broken nose or cracked rib cost you more or less than 10 quid? And do you considering having them a virtue or a nuisance?
Fck 10 Quid I say, I hate physical discomforts. I have enough self inflicted idiotic injuries already. Like stubbing your toe, biting your nails too much, bumbping into sharp or hard surfaces etc.
haha Captcha is Oh, Lord
Fck 10 Quid I say, I hate physical discomforts. I have enough self inflicted idiotic injuries already. Like stubbing your toe, biting your nails too much, bumbping into sharp or hard surfaces etc.
haha Captcha is Oh, Lord
You did exactly the right thing. Fighting people like that is stupid for a variety of reasons. For one, you don't know whether he actually did have a weapon (legally and practically, it makes sense not to pull one out until you absolutely need to when robbing someone). More importantly, you are probably not a great fighter. Have you been in a fight before? People who rob people tend to be the sort of people who get into fights. So he had height, likely significant muscle given the age difference, and almost assuredly fighting experience on you. Giving him a paltry ten pounds doesn't mark you as a coward so much as it avoids marking you as a complete imbecile.BiscuitTrouser said:
TL;DR: Discretion is the better part of valour.
In your situation, I'd probably have fought for it. I do know how to fight, and one on one I'd probably favour my odds. Probably after having made as if to give him the money, nice way to distract someone.
But if there was a weapon, or two men, or any other situation than just one person, I wouldn't fight. Just not worth it.
Haha, Captcha: 'Know your rights.'
But if there was a weapon, or two men, or any other situation than just one person, I wouldn't fight. Just not worth it.
Haha, Captcha: 'Know your rights.'
Why exactly do males have the responsibility to fight for their pride, where as a woman would be encouraged to run away? Cause lets face it, if a girl made this post no one would be insinuating that she was a coward. Relative strength doesn't even factor into the equation as you have pointed out that you would have fought a guy double your size. And hey his cowardice cost him 10 bucks, but loosing the fight would have cost him his bike.JB1528 said:
It seemed like a worthy cause to me. Standing up against those that would threaten because there were more of them. I wasn't doing it for bravery, I wasn't doing it for glory, I was doing because I thought it was right, you obviously think it was stupid. We've been arguing what I think is right and what you think is stupid? Can we stop arguing now because I really have more important things to do than have a flame war with someone on the internet who has nothing better to do.Abandon4093 said:
Ten pounds? That's like... twenty bucks, right? I'm flat broke, so hell yeah I'd fight him!
In all seriousness, though, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't just give him money. At the very least, he'd have to hit me first. I mean, if he isn't armed, and there's only one of him, I'm not just going to lie down and take it.
Of course, I've never been mugged before, so I'm not really speaking from experience. I like to think I'd be brave in this kind of situation, but I can't really know until I actually get mugged.
In all seriousness, though, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't just give him money. At the very least, he'd have to hit me first. I mean, if he isn't armed, and there's only one of him, I'm not just going to lie down and take it.
Of course, I've never been mugged before, so I'm not really speaking from experience. I like to think I'd be brave in this kind of situation, but I can't really know until I actually get mugged.
By not armed i meant no visible weapon. Coat though. Not sure where his hands were.Dr Snakeman said:
Well I do understand that you thought 10 quid wasn't worth it. And I got to respect you for standing with your decision so I apologize for calling you a coward.BiscuitTrouser said:
I just guess we think a little differently. When a guy robs me for 10 bucks I think "This stupid ************ actually got the nerve to think I'm weak enough to be an easy target? FUCK THAT!" while you think "Well its only 10 quid so I'll just give it up, not worth being beat up for".
And at the end of the day I'll be the one with the bruises while you'll be safe at home, lol so to each his own I guess.
I live in México, and while in my town i have never being robbed, i have being robbed while riding the metro of the federal district (DF here, the Washington for México) it was one guy and at first i was going to fight him but i noticed in the crown 4 or 5 guys that were eyeing us and "looking out" for cops, so i just took my wallet and gave him everything i had, its a whole mafia in there, and if i have the number correctly every day at least one guy gets killed in the metro.
Fighting back doesn't always work out like you planned either.
I know a guy that (claims) got held up outside an ATM. The twist? Guy's a black belt. Ended up breaking one guy's wrist, and some ribs on another. Lost his money though, because he got cracked over the head from behind after he put the first two down.
Rather than being impressed, this pretty much cemented my decision not to fight back in the event of a robbery. What if that third guy had a gun/knife rather than whatever he used to knock him out? That's not worth whatever I have in my wallet.
They ended up catching the guys because the third guy took his buddies into the E.R. Kind of a catch 22 there.
I know a guy that (claims) got held up outside an ATM. The twist? Guy's a black belt. Ended up breaking one guy's wrist, and some ribs on another. Lost his money though, because he got cracked over the head from behind after he put the first two down.
Rather than being impressed, this pretty much cemented my decision not to fight back in the event of a robbery. What if that third guy had a gun/knife rather than whatever he used to knock him out? That's not worth whatever I have in my wallet.
They ended up catching the guys because the third guy took his buddies into the E.R. Kind of a catch 22 there.
Don't worry dude, I know exactly what you mean. I myself have the weird ass idea that I could win a fight through sheer quick thinking and ballsyness, and I'd probably attempt to win aswell. I'd just want to see the kind of hubris that makes a man try to take another mans money punished. But lets face it, in that kind of situation OP was pretty much fucked, and he still managed to keep his phone and his bike. Dude made the right choice.sheah1 said:
Some fellow tried to rob my store while I was working. It catches you off guard, yes, because it's a familiar area with comfortable memories and one wants to think the best of the situation. He walks in with a home-made balaclava and demands the cash. At first, what with it being winter in a small town, I figured his face must have been cold and I remember, many times asking him if he was serious.
It was frightening, as he kept going for his pockets to get something, despite actually having no weapon in the end. He goes for the register, in an attempt to open the thing. At this point, anger overcame common sense and I pushed him back into the chip racks and told him that if he didn't have a F^&&%^g weapon, that he wasn't getting the cash. he flees the store, telling me he'll be back. I grab the phone and call the cops while blocking the door(Didn't know where the keys were).
The thing is, even with my boxing background, it's hard to muster the courage to do something. I acted without actually thinking, as the situation was so foreign that no thoughts could really be given.
One of the most jarring experiences of my life. Of course, I handled it in a stupid manner, as cash in the register is insured and I should've just handed it over.
It was frightening, as he kept going for his pockets to get something, despite actually having no weapon in the end. He goes for the register, in an attempt to open the thing. At this point, anger overcame common sense and I pushed him back into the chip racks and told him that if he didn't have a F^&&%^g weapon, that he wasn't getting the cash. he flees the store, telling me he'll be back. I grab the phone and call the cops while blocking the door(Didn't know where the keys were).
The thing is, even with my boxing background, it's hard to muster the courage to do something. I acted without actually thinking, as the situation was so foreign that no thoughts could really be given.
One of the most jarring experiences of my life. Of course, I handled it in a stupid manner, as cash in the register is insured and I should've just handed it over.