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wedrinkritalin

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I punched a chav who I later found out was only like 12, I was mortified but still somewhat proud as he threw a stone at me.
 
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HBrutusH post=18.69524.664251 said:
That's true, however a martial artist is still more likely to be a more proficient fighter than your average Joe hoodie.
Not necessarily. In fact, there have been many, many cases where a "martial artist" has been beaten by Joe Random. If you're trained to fight in a very unrealistic and impractical way and have no real experience, then someone's simply going to punch you in the face.
 

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frontier psychiatrist post=18.69524.664264 said:
HBrutusH post=18.69524.664251 said:
That's true, however a martial artist is still more likely to be a more proficient fighter than your average Joe hoodie.
Not necessarily. In fact, there have been many, many cases where a "martial artist" has been beaten by Joe Random. If you're trained to fight in a very unrealistic and impractical way and have no real experience, then someone's simply going to punch you in the face.
I've fought Joe Random's before using martial arts and destroyed them pretty easily. If someone has no martial arts experience, or little, and is within about 50 pounds of me, I can usually win pretty easily (mostly because I just love to fight).

But again, there's about ten bad examples of martial artists for every one good one. I took martial arts because I love watching it done and thought it was cool, not because I ever needed to defend myself. And I took martial arts with the intent of learning how to beat the hell out of people, not with the "it'll teach me confidence and respect" though it did, the lessons I learned still didn't keep me from liking the experience of fighting.

Don't get me wrong, I've had the shit kicked out of me, but only by more skilled fighters (black belts all of them) than me. In fact, the only non-traditional martial artist whom I've lost a match/fight to was my friend who was a very skilled folk style/freestyle wrestler, as well as being very strong, not to mention I taught him everything I knew about Brazilian Jiu Jitsu which he absorbed like a sponge. Our fights go back and forth, however, and it has yet to be found out who is better. I have an advantage on my feet, because he is admittedly terrible at striking, but on the ground, he has a much bigger advantage (being both a wrestler, a BJJ user of about my skill level, and stronger than I am).

So yes, I am one of the first people who is willing to say "just because you know martial arts doesn't mean you can fight". It takes a certain mental mind set to have it in you to fight someone. Every person has two instincts when it comes to confrontation, fight or flight. When people who normally have the flight concept in mind take up martial arts, sometimes they can't fully commit to the fight mind set and therefore aren't mentally prepared for physical violence.

This can be also blamed on the teachers, many of whom will either neglect sparring, or treat it as a sport or game over practice fighting as it should be. Sparring for me was usually a practice fight (on some occasions, we'd have point-scored matches, but this didn't stop the intensity of which we fought). You might not be punching each other in the face with the intent to kill (which I have been punched and kicked in the face, alot) your still going at the guy and your both learning what its like to be in a one on one combat scenario with another person. Contact doesn't have to be full force, but it should not be a little touch either. Luckily, I trained with a group of tough guys who enjoyed hard sparring and didn't mind getting kicked in the chest, bloody lips and noses, or the occasional shin-on-shin contact that left super-ball sized welts on your shins.

Again, the lesson of this long essay is "Yes and no, it depends on the person and school".

I would tell other stories of how I'm a different case than 80% of anyone who's taken martial arts, but I feel as though I'd make myself sound like an unbeleivable liar if I did. Its not that outrageous, but it involves taking on multiple people in weight lifting class.
 

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A few years back, believe it or not, I got into a fight when I touched some guy's paper hat. He got so mad at me he punched me in the face. Naturally I was pissed off so I punched him back square in the middle of his face and that pretty much ended it (I was known as the strong guy at my school). I later found out I broke his nose and caused some odd lumps to appear on his head :S. Needless to say I felt kinda bad afterward...I never apologized though...he did hit me first after all.

I've been in several other fights...but this is the only one I notably feel sorry about.
 

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frontier psychiatrist post=18.69524.664264 said:
Not necessarily. In fact, there have been many, many cases where a "martial artist" has been beaten by Joe Random. If you're trained to fight in a very unrealistic and impractical way and have no real experience, then someone's simply going to punch you in the face.
Ares Tyr post=18.69524.664504 said:
Words! Jeez!
That.
 
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Ares Tyr post=18.69524.664504 said:
Again, the lesson of this long essay is "Yes and no, it depends on the person and school".
You didn't have to write an essay about it. I thought it went without saying that it depends on the person and the school. I was specifically talking about "martial artists" whose training is at best useless and at worst counter-productive.

Its not that outrageous, but it involves taking on multiple people in weight lifting class.
It's a popular myth that you just "can't" fight multiple attackers for some magical mystery reason. There are a lot of variables involved, and there's certainly nothing outrageous about defeating several attackers.
 

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frontier psychiatrist post=18.69524.664565 said:
Ares Tyr post=18.69524.664504 said:
Again, the lesson of this long essay is "Yes and no, it depends on the person and school".
You didn't have to write an essay about it. I thought it went without saying that it depends on the person and the school. I was specifically talking about "martial artists" whose training is at best useless and at worst counter-productive.

Its not that outrageous, but it involves taking on multiple people in weight lifting class.
It's a popular myth that you just "can't" fight multiple attackers for some magical mystery reason. There are a lot of variables involved, and there's certainly nothing outrageous about defeating several attackers.
It really wasn't that. I did that once, just to fuck around and show people how cool I am (its not that hard, I'd rather take on three shitty fighters than one great one, its all about standing in the right place). But in this situation, I was trying to convince people that "just because you're stronger than I am doesn't mean you're a better fighter than I am". I did this by taking three guys whom bench-pressed something like fifty pounds more than me, and subsequently submitting them one after the other in one on one wrestling/grappling matches. Two were wrestlers and the third was a reported "good street fighter". I gained several people's respect in doing so, because it was like, my second week at a new school.

At my high school, senior year I was known for three things. Rapping, dancing, and fighting. Usually a combination of the three, so yeah, haha.

And sorry for the essays, I just really like the subject matter (its not coincedence my favorite sport is MMA/UFC stuff).
 

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The only physical fight I've ever had was with a girl I was kind of dating. We were at a party and it started out as playful, but then neither of us would stop. She was a lot heavier than I am (most people over the age of 12 are heavier than I am), so she had me by the hair, pinned to the ground. I, on the other hand, had a big piece of her arm in my teeth. She wasn't going to let me up until I stopped biting, and I wasn't going to stop biting until she let me up. She also has a monsterously high pain tolerance. Did you know that if you bite someone hard enough, their skin kind of crunches? It does, and it did. She said, "OOOWWWWWW!" and I said "grrrr!" or something to that effect, and she let me up.

The next day she had the most technicolor bruise all the way around her upper arm. It was yellow in the middle, with my perfect bite-print in white at the center. The rest was red, green, and purple. I was appalled at what I had done, but she was quite proud of it and showed it to everybody.

So, yeah, girl-fight. Neither of us broke out the fingernails, though. If we'd done that, we would both have ended up with claw-marks on the face, and nobody wants that.
 
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Ares Tyr post=18.69524.664575 said:
I did this by taking three guys whom bench-pressed something like fifty pounds more than me, and subsequently submitting them one after the other in one on one wrestling/grappling matches.
Oh. I thought you were defending yourself against multiple attackers (that might have turned out to be quite brutal considering all the improvised weaponry you can find in a gym).
 

Ares Tyr

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frontier psychiatrist post=18.69524.664593 said:
Ares Tyr post=18.69524.664575 said:
I did this by taking three guys whom bench-pressed something like fifty pounds more than me, and subsequently submitting them one after the other in one on one wrestling/grappling matches.
Oh. I thought you were defending yourself against multiple attackers (that might have turned out to be quite brutal considering all the improvised weaponry you can find in a gym).
Yeah, that probably wouldn't have turned out to well for me, haha. But I've fought multiple people at once. Notably during my black belt test it was required for two on one or three on one sparring. During two on one with two adult men, I kicked one of them in the mouth and out of comission for a little while, I felt bad. The other was my good friend and red-neck street fighter who wouldn't have any of that shit, haha. It was fun.

But no, I haven't had any real street fights since I started taking martial arts. People either like me, or just avoid me. Either way, its all good.
 

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If I have 'defended' myself - I don't feel pity or sorry for the other person(s.) If they were to beat me within an inch of my life after attacking me would they feel sorry for me? Probably not, seeing as they started the fight in the first place. I've never once started a fight, and never will. However, if someone hits me in the face, and I break their arm, I'll feel that got what they deserved. Hopefully they'll think twice before starting a fight with someone in the future too.
 

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I was playing street basket and some idiot was behaving like a jerk fouling me pretty hard again and again. So I confronted him and he tried to stare me down so I punched him quick right hook. I said sorry for the succerpunch and offered him a free one, but he was loading up a big one so I withdraw just in time. He had to walk it off with a bloody nose. I played alot of basketball games before so I knew that he was stepping way over the line.

Some time after I´m playing soccer with my friends and he shows up with a couple of friends and we played them. Then after we scored 2 goals on them they cornered me and all of my friends basically walked away. So I had mr asshole and his four friends going after me. it got to the point one of them actually defending me from the others and I just walked away. I guess that guy thought 4 against 1 was bad form. Didn´t even get bruised.
 

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frontier psychiatrist post=18.69524.664675 said:
meatloaf231 post=18.69524.664660 said:
Ares Tyr post=18.69524.663180 said:
Long, more interesting answer
So basically you could kill any of us at any time.

*backs away slowly*
Oh, the drama. It's not like he's the only person in the world who practises martial arts.
That's right you should be scared! FEAR ME!!!

But seriously, I do get that from friends and assosciates often (light-hearted "Oh, I'm scared of you..."), it gets pretty tiring after a while, which is why I usually don't say anything about my experience unless asked.

Incidentally, I'm also the guy most of my friends call when they may need back up for an upcoming physical confrontation.
 

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There was a kid in my neighborhood once, we were the same age and hung out in the same groups, but we never really liked each other, I have a small group of friends in my neighborhood, that I'm the de-facto leader of, he decided he wanted to lead so he grabbed my shirt and swung, I ducked and came back with a punch to his stomach, then I threw him against a light post in the parking lot we were, he fell down with nothing but a bloody nose and a few scratches from the fall. This had happened before, except I had just thrown him away, never hit him, then I started to feel bad for him, cause I realized he doesn't even really swing punches, he fights like the stereotype of a girl, with scratches and bites(notice how I said stereotypical), then I found out he was getting bullied at school and I felt sorry for him. He now lives in Seattle.
 

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just to clear this up. i didn't feel bad about sticking up for myself, i felt bad for about far i went. i had an opportunity to stop earlier than i did. thats what i felt bad about, my loss of self control.