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[Maximum Bert]

I cannot mentally handle Eventhubs anymore.

Yup its not exactly very good for news on anything except about Street Fighter and by extension pretty much SFV. Whats that a new fighter is coming out? ah nah screw it lets do a headline article on this new CFN profile character again. Also seriously side topic but whoever writes those CFN profiles they either have the easiest job in the world or they have a stupid work load and would rather not do this as well they are just so bad an acute case of quantity over quality and to hell with having any sort of lore.

I sometimes go back dont know why I guess I just hope against hope they have actually expanded their scope and uplifted their quality but it seems clicks are mostly what they are interested in and SF does that well. I know they were originally just a SF site but I think if they were going to widen it then they should have made a conscious effort to provide a wide ranging amount of content as possible in regards to fighters if they do not want to or cannot then they should have just stayed as a SF site (even though they pretty are just that, and not even a great one at that).

They do have a good layout and comment system though imo and I feel that helps them immensely.

Also just so people know Skullgirls is getting a limited physical release so if anyone wants to pre order it (only way you can get one I believe as they are made to pre order) you can head over to

https://www.limitedrungames.com/collections/games

Would not recommend it if you just want to play the game though as the digital version is far cheaper.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

You guys see how into this stuff I am so I don't think I need to clarify further lol.


I never visit that site or SRK or reddit. All those sites are too cumbersome and people use them like how they use facebook as though they are the one site that matters. Going at the source is much better. Maybe it is different if you care about capcom games or something, dunno lol.



I like dustloop and gamefaqs, both foster a sense of community at the cost of being smaller. Also lots of the actually active people who play a lot and not just talk about the game use them. Easy to get matches going and exchange advice and feedback.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

Their articles get dumber and dumber everytime I go. I respect their new tools to play with, I respect that they are the fastest website for fighting game new but goddamn they are hard to handle. Straw for me was promoting a blatant porn artist who just so happens to do fighting game art some time. I understand and respect how they sometimes honor several artists at a time but doing one article for one porn artist alone is just cringe as I have seen them get outside of promoting Core-A Gaming's godawful "Villain" video and by extension Core-A Gaming as a whole.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

You guys see how into this stuff I am so I don't think I need to clarify further lol.


I never visit that site or SRK or reddit. All those sites are too cumbersome and people use them like how they use facebook as though they are the one site that matters. Going at the source is much better. Maybe it is different if you care about capcom games or something, dunno lol.


I like dustloop and gamefaqs, both foster a sense of community at the cost of being smaller. Also lots of the actually active people who play a lot and not just talk about the game use them. Easy to get matches going and exchange advice and feedback.

SRK is worth it and my current preference even if I visit all of them except EventScrubs and Fighter's Generation because the owner of the latter is a prick and alleged racist.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

I cannot mentally handle Eventhubs anymore.

Yup its not exactly very good for news on anything except about Street Fighter and by extension pretty much SFV. Whats that a new fighter is coming out? ah nah screw it lets do a headline article on this new CFN profile character again. Also seriously side topic but whoever writes those CFN profiles they either have the easiest job in the world or they have a stupid work load and would rather not do this as well they are just so bad an acute case of quantity over quality and to hell with having any sort of lore.

I sometimes go back dont know why I guess I just hope against hope they have actually expanded their scope and uplifted their quality but it seems clicks are mostly what they are interested in and SF does that well. I know they were originally just a SF site but I think if they were going to widen it then they should have made a conscious effort to provide a wide ranging amount of content as possible in regards to fighters if they do not want to or cannot then they should have just stayed as a SF site (even though they pretty are just that, and not even a great one at that).

They do have a good layout and comment system though imo and I feel that helps them immensely.

Also just so people know Skullgirls is getting a limited physical release so if anyone wants to pre order it (only way you can get one I believe as they are made to pre order) you can head over to

https://www.limitedrungames.com/collections/games
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Thank you very much for posting this here.

Would not recommend it if you just want to play the game though as the digital version is far cheaper.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

My SRK experience is best summed up as this:

-Get linked to cool soundin srk article
-Read an article that sounds like it comes from the perspective of a biased competitor to the content because it isn't capcom-made
-Read comments that generally function under the presumption that the article's subject is less significant than capcom stuff
-Make a comment or two correcting especially frustrating inaccuracies
-Give up on them further and go away



I especially remember this one article where someone had written an e-book about how to get into fighting games. Not SF, just fighting games, but the whole book and article treated the way SF plays as the one way fighters are. I made a ton of posts in various comment trees in that one, explaining stuff, saying that the book needed a different name or a chapter for each style as a lot of stuff it posited did not apply at all to some games. That was the height of productivity in my time there, and it was basically yelling at ignorant folks for a couple of days. Not fun lol.

 

[Maximum Bert]

Book to get into fighters? are you on about the one Gootecks wrote or the other one by Patrick Miller? I would assume there are others ofc as well.

I have read the one by Gootecks because I got it for free and I wanted something else to read on the long haul flight. I did not learn much tbh and it got kinda hard to read as its fairly dry. Not a terrible book by any means but its a book on how to play SF first and foremost which is not a problem except it says it for all fighters which is untrue except in the broadest sense possible.

Never read the one by Patrick Miller maybe one day I will along with Daigos book but before that I have a stack of about 30 other books I want to read.

Where you go is all down to preference really same with what games you like. If I want SF stuff I would try Eventhubs and Shoryuken if I want Arc stuff I go to Dustloop if I want DOA I go to Free step dodge, Skullgirls I go to Skullhearts, Mortal Kombat I try Test your Might etc.

Only way you are going to get better at fighters is by practice and losing over and over and over again while considering why you lost and trying to fix those reasons. Also I suggest not to make winning your priority only to get better which I believe Dreiko already said but I echo his sentiment.

EDIT: Gootecks book says it about SF I remembered wrong. As such I have no problem with it as it is labelled correctly.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

My SRK experience is best summed up as this:

-Get linked to cool soundin srk article
-Read an article that sounds like it comes from the perspective of a biased competitor to the content because it isn't capcom-made
-Read comments that generally function under the presumption that the article's subject is less significant than capcom stuff
-Make a comment or two correcting especially frustrating inaccuracies
-Give up on them further and go away



I especially remember this one article where someone had written an e-book about how to get into fighting games. Not SF, just fighting games, but the whole book and article treated the way SF plays as the one way fighters are. I made a ton of posts in various comment trees in that one, explaining stuff, saying that the book needed a different name or a chapter for each style as a lot of stuff it posited did not apply at all to some games. That was the height of productivity in my time there, and it was basically yelling at ignorant folks for a couple of days. Not fun lol.

I get the ebook thing. The sad thing to me is that SRK has arguably more of a reason to have a Capcom bias than Escrubs because they are also related to the Evo staff. Yet Eventscubs seems several times more pathetically Capcom biased by far to me.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

So what do you guys do when you hit a slum as well as your own personal skill ceiling?

I'm currently having that problem at the moment with SFV. I reached Gold rank and as soon as i did, i seem to be losing every second game. Now i know im not the best, and reaching Gold has really humbled my ass, but i can't seem to improve.

I main as Ibuki ( after having mained R.mika), and i feel like my opponents are psychic or something. My biggest weakness i would say is my throw game. I couldn't tech a throw to save my life. Other than that my footsie game is subpar at best.

So what are you guys advice for growing as a player after hitting your personal ceiling

Keep playing with other people, preferably IRL and ask them about your fights. If they are better than you they can tell you all the places you go wrong during the match. If you are doing random online play then watch replays of your matches.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j24Fo-lTEVk

Well I did not see that coming.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Heads up, BBCF is out in the US and Es is free for download for the next 7 days, even if you don't own the actual game you can dl her so jump at it!

Book to get into fighters? are you on about the one Gootecks wrote or the other one by Patrick Miller? I would assume there are others ofc as well.

I have read the one by Gootecks because I got it for free and I wanted something else to read on the long haul flight. I did not learn much tbh and it got kinda hard to read as its fairly dry. Not a terrible book by any means but its a book on how to play SF first and foremost which is not a problem except it says it for all fighters which is untrue except in the broadest sense possible.

Never read the one by Patrick Miller maybe one day I will along with Daigos book but before that I have a stack of about 30 other books I want to read.

Where you go is all down to preference really same with what games you like. If I want SF stuff I would try Eventhubs and Shoryuken if I want Arc stuff I go to Dustloop if I want DOA I go to Free step dodge, Skullgirls I go to Skullhearts, Mortal Kombat I try Test your Might etc.

Only way you are going to get better at fighters is by practice and losing over and over and over again while considering why you lost and trying to fix those reasons. Also I suggest not to make winning your priority only to get better which I believe Dreiko already said but I echo his sentiment.

I think it was Patrick's. Basically the book was named something along the lines of "beginner's guide to fighting games" but only spoke about SF such that for example some of the advice given was that jumping is bad. It might be for SF but games like Melty or BB have air footsies so telling beginners to not jump is factually bad advice. The presumption was that only SF exists or matters, it permeated everything about it. When you write a book about fighting games in the plural tense, you need a chapter for each style or you need to call the book a sf-specific book.

 

[Maximum Bert]

Heads up, BBCF is out in the US and Es is free for download for the next 7 days, even if you don't own the actual game you can dl her so jump at it!

Dont suppose you know if that deal will be on in Europe? I stupidly accidentally ordered the EU version now I get to pay higher prices wait longer for release (although not much longer this time it seems) and get less benefits yay! I know the Dizzy DLC was not free for Revelator in EU luckily I bought the US copy of that game.

Free DLC is not there atm but then the game is not out here yet until friday (and I am away all weekend to a wedding.....well cant be to upset as should be lots of beer). Guess I will find out Tuesday one way or another.

Edit: She is free which is a very pleasant surprise. Get her quickly if you have the EU version of the game.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

My instinct would say she won't be free. I don't think the EU publisher for BB gives a damn lol. I still have nightmares about that EU BBCT cover.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

My instinct would say she won't be free. I don't think the EU publisher for BB gives a damn lol. I still have nightmares about that EU BBCT cover.

I just got my big box and I am happy. Do not know when/if I will play the game but maybe later.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Yeah I'm up for games whenever really, psn is dreikoo so shoot me a message when the time is right.

 

[Lufia Erim]

So what do you guys do when you hit a slum as well as your own personal skill ceiling?

I'm currently having that problem at the moment with SFV. I reached Gold rank and as soon as i did, i seem to be losing every second game. Now i know im not the best, and reaching Gold has really humbled my ass, but i can't seem to improve.

I main as Ibuki ( after having mained R.mika), and i feel like my opponents are psychic or something. My biggest weakness i would say is my throw game. I couldn't tech a throw to save my life. Other than that my footsie game is subpar at best.

So what are you guys advice for growing as a player after hitting your personal ceiling

Keep playing with other people, preferably IRL and ask them about your fights. If they are better than you they can tell you all the places you go wrong during the match. If you are doing random online play then watch replays of your matches.

There is a scene in my city ( montreal) but the problem is I'm a little asocial, i have a lot of trouble talking to people i don't know IRL. Especially since everyone seems to know each other. They host weeklies and monthlies, but i kind of lack the courage to try and insert myself to an already established circle.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

So what do you guys do when you hit a slum as well as your own personal skill ceiling?

I'm currently having that problem at the moment with SFV. I reached Gold rank and as soon as i did, i seem to be losing every second game. Now i know im not the best, and reaching Gold has really humbled my ass, but i can't seem to improve.

I main as Ibuki ( after having mained R.mika), and i feel like my opponents are psychic or something. My biggest weakness i would say is my throw game. I couldn't tech a throw to save my life. Other than that my footsie game is subpar at best.

So what are you guys advice for growing as a player after hitting your personal ceiling

Keep playing with other people, preferably IRL and ask them about your fights. If they are better than you they can tell you all the places you go wrong during the match. If you are doing random online play then watch replays of your matches.

There is a scene in my city ( montreal) but the problem is I'm a little asocial, i have a lot of trouble talking to people i don't know IRL. Especially since everyone seems to know each other. They host weeklies and monthlies, but i kind of lack the courage to try and insert myself to an already established circle.

Do not let that stop you. Fun Fact: I am EXTREMELY antisocial to the point of basically classifying it as a series mental disorder. The level of ills and anxiety I get around people is unpleasant and unusual and that does not exactly fully leave me around events. Even then I am still filled with more of a sense of peace and at home than I do in any other social environment than I do at tournaments and at some cons. Maybe your local scene is not big enough to hold a tournament and maybe it is. Point is for me going to my local is one of the healthier social things I do and frankly I wish i had the money to do it more often since it is changing for the better in regards to how I socialize. Maybe the results you get going will not be as positive as mine but from my own experience I can only recommend that you please try and best of luck.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

Well Lufia in addition to my previous statement I should make this painfully clear that you should never been afraid of losing because that is as inevitable as the tide turning and the sun setting. To get better you must lose. I have already said this though and maybe you already knew regardless. That and maybe you fear lies less with losing and more with the fear of socializing itself. As I have said I am no stranger to that. All I can say there is suck it up and find an opponent. If thats hard than bring a friend and I know its hard for me personally to find a friend with that level of interest in fighting games(any at all) but they still may be interested and seeing whats going on at will push you in the right direction in the way you likely find the most confortable. I wish you great luck in your fightan pursuits comrade.

 

[Lufia Erim]

Well Lufia in addition to my previous statement I should make this painfully clear that you should never been afraid of losing because that is as inevitable as the tide turning and the sun setting. To get better you must lose. I have already said this though and maybe you already knew regardless. That and maybe you fear lies less with losing and more with the fear of socializing itself. As I have said I am no stranger to that. All I can say there is suck it up and find an opponent. If thats hard than bring a friend and I know its hard for me personally to find a friend with that level of interest in fighting games(any at all) but they still may be interested and seeing whats going on at will push you in the right direction in the way you likely find the most confortable. I wish you great luck in your fightan pursuits comrade.

I want to ask. Forgive me if this is too foward, if you prefer to PM me or not answer thats fine. But i am curious to how your first tournament went out first few) went. seeing as you say you're asocial it could help me set a realistic expectation.

Of course i don't expect to win, i actually watch the streams when people from my town play. it's just i haven't made the step to go out and play with them.

I wish i had a friend that enjoyed Fighting games. The few friends i have prefer to play Fps's online. Any attempt to get them to play and appreciate fighting games has failed miserably , it is a very niche genre.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

Here or PM, whichever you prefer.