Final Boss Epic Gameplay

[MorphingDragon]

I know its some people's opinion that Final Bosses have becoming more anti-climactic, but I was thinking. Are people just mistaking hard for epic?

I just finished playing Radiant Dawn again, and I always thought that Ashera was an epic boss for a TBS game. But I just realized, shes just hard. What makes her epic is the story surrounding the battle and the music (Oh the music).

I go back to Hocus Pocus (Really Old Example). I thought that the Bosses in the last levels of each act were hard, not exactly epic. The story or any other immersion building wasn't really there. Now go to Mass Effect 2, the Final Boss was pathetically easy, but people still consider it epic, mostly because of the story surrounding it and the talk with the illusive man afterwards.

Actually now that I think of it, I kinda struggle to come up with a final boss that's both epic in gameplay and surrounding elements. I can think of the Jak n Daxter Series and Demon's Souls, but I sort of draw a blank after that.

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Ashera's Battle Music:

 

[sb666]

Metal Gear Solid, Shadow of the Colossus, Okami and Final Fantasy have the best boss fights in my opinion.

 

[MorphingDragon]

Metal Gear Solid and Shadow of the Colossus have the best boss fights in my opinion.

See, now how can I forget those.

Bad Brain.

 

[sb666]

Metal Gear Solid and Shadow of the Colossus have the best boss fights in my opinion.

See, now how can I forget those.

Bad Brain.

I forgot to add Okami to that list can't belive i forgot it.

 

[Whyso]

the best boss fights i've seen have to be in kingdom hearts, there is a strategy to every boss fight, always many triggers and best ways to do things, as well as unique ideas for each one

 

[MorphingDragon]

Spoiler: You don't know epic unless you see the following...

Bayonetta vs. Jubileus Terra, Ventus, and Aqua vs. Xehanort and Vanitas Solid Snake vs. Liquid Ocelot

Haven't played Bayonetta.

MGS4 overarc'd itself IMO. By the time I got to the end I just wanted the damn thing to be over.

Metal Gear Solid and Shadow of the Colossus have the best boss fights in my opinion.

See, now how can I forget those.

Bad Brain.

I forgot to add Okami to that list can't belive i forgot it.

Yes the Okami music is very nice.

I have the soundtrack CDs somewhere.

 

[nohorsetown]

Illusion of Gaia. Haven't played it in 10 or more years, and the last boss is probably not that hard, but goddamn the music was so epic that it immediately popped into my mind.

Kefka from FF6 was epic, as far as presentation and music. Again, I'm not too sure about the gameplay, because I was always over-grinded.

The final battle with Lavos (Chrono Trigger) was epic in that it was *anti-epic*. At the heart of this huge alien doomsday creature, you find some kinda chicken-thing in a space suit. And then it turns out the real boss is one of his "bits". I loved that.

Not a final boss, but Luca Blight in Suikoden 2 is probably the most epic thing ever. Dude gets shot full of a zillion arrows, plus you need 18 people to bring him down. He brags about it as he dies. He has no regrets. He was a badass.

Sorry, that was just old RPGs. Stick with what ya know, yeah?

 

[sb666]

Also serious sam has really epic boss fights.

 

[The Wykydtron]

Persona 4's boss fights were awesome, you were always wondering what the next boss would look like and whether you'd have to spend half an hour on the fusing menu to create something that could even remotely dent it... Or maybe that's just me refusing to grind any levels ever

And the boss music was epic, that's kinda a requirement for good bosses though

 

[Pearwood]

Demon's Souls

Presumably you don't mean the barely animate lump of flesh you fight in the Nexus, you mean the False King?

Jubileus from Bayonetta was pretty epic (and hard as hell to match), the last part of the fight involved

Spoiler

smashing the fragments of her corpse to stop it destroying the world. If that's not epic then what is, she can die and still murder you and everyone you know just by falling on you. Plus you fight her IN SPAAACE which helps.

Edit - bugger I was ninja'd behind a spoiler I'll add the final quest of Dragon Age, it's not difficult but it does build up the feel of an invasion.

 

[rohansoldier]

For me RAAM from GOW1 (especially on insane mode) and Saren from Mass Effect 1 were 2 of the best bosses I have ever fought against, and had the pleasure of killing

 

[latenightapplepie]

For me RAAM from GOW1 (especially on insane mode)

Sorry, I just had a bit of a relapse there. Bad memories. But I killed that ************. However, it wasn't terribly epic; I think I just died too many times, perhaps. The same thing happened, to an extent, with the Archdemon in Dragon Age: Origins.

The final boss of the original Assassin's Creed struck a good balance of difficulty and emotional story climax, I thought.

Ultimately though, I still think you can loosen the difficulty somewhat and still have an epic boss fight. All the bosses of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask were fairly dramatic, if I remember correctly. I particularly liked the shock value of some of them; I mean, tell me you expected all of them to be what they were.

 

[Wayneguard]

haha the first few posts were perfect: Shadow of the Colossus then MGS. If these don't meet the criteria for epic in gameplay and story, nothing will. Holy Jesus the fight with ocelot at the end of MGS4... WOW.

 

[WashingMachineofDoom]

I thought the final boss fight of Arkham City was epic in my opinion, mostly because the villain is pretty awesome, and I never expected to see them in game.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

Jubileus from Bayonetta was pretty epic (and hard as hell to match), the last part of the fight involved

Spoiler

smashing the fragments of her corpse to stop it destroying the world. If that's not epic then what is, she can die and still murder you and everyone you know just by falling on you. Plus you fight her IN SPAAACE which helps.

Edit - bugger I was ninja'd behind a spoiler I'll add the final quest of Dragon Age, it's not difficult but it does build up the feel of an invasion.

The whole battle was freaking hard as hell, but it did make me feel like a badass after I killed her.

Thank GOD for check points in that battle though because it would get ridiculous at times.

 

[krazykidd]

Oh look it's thia thread again . Oh well might as well give the same answer i give everytime . Persona 3 nyx . Best boss battle by far , it was quite challenging ( especially if you didn't over level yourself ) and the boss music is out of this world , one of my favorite boss battle themes i have ever heard . " The battle for everyones Souls " it's what it's called if you want youtube it.

 

[go-10]

I've always like Metal Gear Solid and Legend of Zelda bosses, but like you said OT is not because they're hard is just the story leading up to that moment is a great build up

try not to tell me that last battle with Ganondorf in Twilight Princess wasn't epic and I'll call you a liar

 

[sumanoskae]

The dragons from Dragon Age were not only built up to, but they were hard as hell. Seemingly so little could even scratch the strongest one. I didn't fully appreciate how useful Zevran and Wyen were until then.

 

[Pearwood]

Thank GOD for check points in that battle though because it would get ridiculous at times.

Yeah... I wanted to unlock the hidden character so I had to platinum the bloody mission. It was so hard but so satisfying when I did.