Final Fantasy Card Game Detailed

Tom Phoenix

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The good thing about new trading/collectible card games is that nobody really has an advantage at the very beginning. Everyone is more or less a novice and there are no super rare cards that are extremely effective but demand outrageous prices.

The bad thing about new trading/collectible card games is that it is much harder to find people to play with than with a established game. Plus, there is no telling whether or not the game will actually survive in the long run. The TCG/CCG business is very hard to get into (Magic: The Gathering, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Pokémon and possibly World of WarCraft are preety much the only ones that have managed to establish themselves in the long-term). As a result, most games end up being discontinued not long after their debut, which happens even to games with a popular and established franchise behind them (Harry Potter, Star Wars, Buffy the Vampire Slayer...).

We will see how Square Enix's attempt at making a TCG/CCG holds up in the long run. It certainly wouldn't hurt if they managed to succeed.
 

RandallJohn

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Firia said:
RandallJohn said:
blalien said:
RandallJohn said:
Also, how are water, ice, and snow not all the same element?
Ice and water are distinct elements in the Final Fantasy universe. I don't know where snow comes from. Maybe it's a translation error?
Oh, I know. I just mean naturally. And now they throw snow in the mix. I think Square just really likes water-based spells or something. :p
Makes me wonder why they haven't capitalized on Fire Lava and Soot. ;)
How about darkness, shadow, and totally-not-light? :D
 

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I'm still rather irked that the card game doesn't seem to have a consistent art style which would make it look a lot more professional and just overall better. Yea you save time by just taking stock images and plastering em on the cards and that would be fine for just collecting. But for playing cards it would be nice for something more universal.

Ever since Dissidia, I loved the art style character design Normua did and that would have been a GREAT art style for a card game and seeing all the characters and summons and junk drawn in that style would give consistency and be very pleasing. But I guess he's too busy for that and there aint anyone else they can find that can pull that off...oh well.

BobisOnlyBob said:
Pretty sure "snow" and "ice" are the same thing and there's been a problem somewhere down the translation pipeline. Lightning would make the most sense there, as that's a universal of both a 3-primary-black-magics (Fire, Ice, Bolt; aka Fire, Blizzard, Thunder) and the 4-primary-black-magics (same as before, plus Water). Water and Ice are usually separate, as are Earth and Wind (which are opposed). Dark and Holy should be appropriately infrequent and powerful, except for healing, which should either be Holy or Neutral and do damage to undead.

Ex-YGO player here, hoping they don't cock up the balance early in the game's creation like they did with that.
Your right about the translation error, there aint no Snow, it's lightning.

Siliconera had an article about this too and they detailed a little more in regards to the properties of each element.

There are three kinds of cards in the game:

Forward ? These are character cards and act like monsters in Magic: The Gathering. Forwards attack and block the player from taking damage. Many character cards are forwards.

Backup ? These cards provide crystal points used to release forwards. I suppose they?re like lands.

Eidolons ? Powerful and familiar monsters from the Final Fantasy series. These cards are used once.



Cards are further differentiated by their elements. The Final Fantasy Trading Card Game has six regular elements plus two special ones.



* Fire ? an offensive attribute geared towards character damage. A large number of eidolons have this attribute.
* Ice ? support characters that disrupt an opponent?s attacks.
* Wind ? agile characters which are small in size, but are speedy.
* Lightning ? these characters can defeat enemies with lightning speed. This group is effective at removing abilities.
* Earth ? large and sturdy characters. Out of the eight elements these are bar none the best at defense.
* Water ? tricky characters who may have an indirect advantage on the battlefield.
* Light and Dark ? extremely powerful attributes

SpaceMedarotterX said:
everyone in the thread said:
Triple Triad
Triple Triad SUCKS that was one of the worst Mini-games I ever had to endure not to mention all the stupid ass rules that if I wanted to prevent them from changing because god knows the AI's a cheating dick, I have to go everywhere to freaking fix it.

Regardless Yu-Gi-Oh's been my on again off again card game system and I'm unlikely to buy FF cards if I wont buy cards for that game.
A million times this, that game was a total pile of shit and how anyone could enjoy it is mind boggling. If it were FF9s Tetra Master I could understand a bit, but Triple Triad is one of the worst mini games in the entire series, and having it tie into the actual game somewhat mad it worse.
 

Jark212

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I'd rather stick to Magic: The Gathering, at least if I can find anyone to play with...
 

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I would like to see a card game that the rules start out fairly easily learnable much like how magic the gathering was during its initial release and the does not continually keep adding new rules and mechanics that convolute the game to the point that it ends up only accessible to the hard core.

I know the core game of magic I was able to teach my at the time 8 year old sister and she was able to understand it. Now its almost like you need a masters in accellerated particle physics to keep up with all the various rules and conflictions.

Basically a card game with the accessibility of poker with a little more depth and complexity to it would be nice. The way to do it is to create a simple balanced game then stop trying to expand it. 50 years from now I find it unlikely that anyone will be playing Pokemon/YuGiYo etc, but 50 years from now there will still be college kids using poker as a drinking game or the like.
 

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You silly people stopping at two dimensions with your collectible games. I'll stick with Heroclix, thank you very much.
 

chozo_hybrid

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This sounds exactly like Magic the Gathering:

Forward/Creature
The basic card. These are used to attack and also block enemy forwards/creatures.

Backup/Mana/Artifacts
These cards don't take part in battle. They provide the Crystal/Mana/Artifacts Points that are required for using cards, and also provide support to forward cards through abilities.

Summons/Spells
These are used just once, but have powerful effects.
 

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blalien said:
RandallJohn said:
Also, how are water, ice, and snow not all the same element?
Ice and water are distinct elements in the Final Fantasy universe. I don't know where snow comes from. Maybe it's a translation error?
I'll grant you water and ice but yeah... snow wtf.
 

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NotKyle said:
If this isn't triple triad, it is utterly worthless.
Is that the one from Final Fantasy IX? That would be sick in real life.

Do it like this [y outube= (insert the code in the url here)]
 

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Jesus Phish said:
NotKyle said:
If this isn't triple triad, it is utterly worthless.
I agree with you. Brilliant game that really should just be released already.
There are offically lisenced Triple Triad cards out there, its just that they weren't released in America.
Unfortunately, whomever A-OK'd the designs went with the red-and-blue, double-sided cards.
I bet part of why they never caught on in person is because in FF8, the cards are, in fact, three-sided.
-Seraph- said:
I'm still rather irked that the card game doesn't seem to have a consistent art style which would make it look a lot more professional and just overall better. Yea you save time by just taking stock images and plastering em on the cards and that would be fine for just collecting. But for playing cards it would be nice for something more universal.

Ever since Dissidia, I loved the art style character design Normua did and that would have been a GREAT art style for a card game and seeing all the characters and summons and junk drawn in that style would give consistency and be very pleasing. But I guess he's too busy for that and there aint anyone else they can find that can pull that off...oh well.

BobisOnlyBob said:
Pretty sure "snow" and "ice" are the same thing and there's been a problem somewhere down the translation pipeline. Lightning would make the most sense there, as that's a universal of both a 3-primary-black-magics (Fire, Ice, Bolt; aka Fire, Blizzard, Thunder) and the 4-primary-black-magics (same as before, plus Water). Water and Ice are usually separate, as are Earth and Wind (which are opposed). Dark and Holy should be appropriately infrequent and powerful, except for healing, which should either be Holy or Neutral and do damage to undead.

Ex-YGO player here, hoping they don't cock up the balance early in the game's creation like they did with that.
Your right about the translation error, there aint no Snow, it's lightning.

Siliconera had an article about this too and they detailed a little more in regards to the properties of each element.

There are three kinds of cards in the game:

Forward ? These are character cards and act like monsters in Magic: The Gathering. Forwards attack and block the player from taking damage. Many character cards are forwards.

Backup ? These cards provide crystal points used to release forwards. I suppose they?re like lands.

Eidolons ? Powerful and familiar monsters from the Final Fantasy series. These cards are used once.



Cards are further differentiated by their elements. The Final Fantasy Trading Card Game has six regular elements plus two special ones.



* Fire ? an offensive attribute geared towards character damage. A large number of eidolons have this attribute.
* Ice ? support characters that disrupt an opponent?s attacks.
* Wind ? agile characters which are small in size, but are speedy.
* Lightning ? these characters can defeat enemies with lightning speed. This group is effective at removing abilities.
* Earth ? large and sturdy characters. Out of the eight elements these are bar none the best at defense.
* Water ? tricky characters who may have an indirect advantage on the battlefield.
* Light and Dark ? extremely powerful attributes

SpaceMedarotterX said:
everyone in the thread said:
Triple Triad
Triple Triad SUCKS that was one of the worst Mini-games I ever had to endure not to mention all the stupid ass rules that if I wanted to prevent them from changing because god knows the AI's a cheating dick, I have to go everywhere to freaking fix it.

Regardless Yu-Gi-Oh's been my on again off again card game system and I'm unlikely to buy FF cards if I wont buy cards for that game.
A million times this, that game was a total pile of shit and how anyone could enjoy it is mind boggling. If it were FF9s Tetra Master I could understand a bit, but Triple Triad is one of the worst mini games in the entire series, and having it tie into the actual game somewhat mad it worse.
Let's have a little talk about the difference between opinion and fact.
Your opinion expresses how you feel about a thing. Often expressed in ways involving terms like, "I think," or "I feel."

Facts are truths about things that exist with or without opinions. They are expressed often through the use of phrases like, "They are," "it was," and "It is."
Let's look at, "that game was a total pile of shit."
It is your opinion that Triple Triad is "a total pile of shit," and yet you insist that it is one.
And both of you not only state your opinion as fact, you call out all other people with a differing opinion and demean them.

These comments are illogical, and insult other peoples' opinions. Being illogical and insisting that your strong, negative opinion is truth has a way of inciting mutual dislike and flamewars. This behavior is also not greatly appreciated on the Escapist, because no logical discussion can be made with an interlocutor whose argument is a fallacy, and the point of the forums is good discussion.
 

Olrod

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"Ice" and "Snow"? Really?

That almost seems like there's a translation error somewhere, right? Redundant element seems redundant.
 

KingWein22

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Ex-Magic and Yu-Gi-Oh! player here. I am not sure how to really think of this game. I think it would be interesting, but didn't they try a Kingdom Hearts TCG-ish thing as well?