Final Fantasy numbers... Don't make sense.
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Difference depending on whether it's the Japanese or Not Japanese game.
What may be 2 or 3 in Japan could very well be 5 or 6 in the rest of the World.
Could be they tried syncing up and now it makes no sense.
Anyone got a Chart of some sort?
What may be 2 or 3 in Japan could very well be 5 or 6 in the rest of the World.
Could be they tried syncing up and now it makes no sense.
Anyone got a Chart of some sort?
I'm a little fuzzy on the details but basically many (most) of the games were released in Japan and not the US so when they finally released their next game to the US it was the seventh one released in Japan.
That sounds about right, right guys?
That sounds about right, right guys?
FF2, FF3, and FF4 (or 5) were never initially released in the US, FF5(or 4, I can't remember) and FF6 were renamed to avoid confusion, by 7 they just started using the japanese sequel numbers.
It was worse in the UK, FFs 2-6 were never released here 'til after 9.
It was worse in the UK, FFs 2-6 were never released here 'til after 9.
Ummm.Japanese numbering is straight 1-13
The US skipped FF 2 and 3 and 5.
Making FF, FF4 (in the US known as FF2), and FF6 (In the US known as FF3).
The US skipped FF 2 and 3 and 5.
Making FF, FF4 (in the US known as FF2), and FF6 (In the US known as FF3).
Someone isn't up on their Final Fantasy history. Not all the Final Fantasy games were initially released outside of Japan, namely Final Fantasies II & III, later Final Fantasy IV was released in N. America, and presumably elsewhere, under the title 'Final Fantasy II' and Final Fantasy VI was released to the rest of the world under the title 'Final Fantasy III'. Now fast forward a few more years to when Square starts releasing compilations, for the PS1 we saw 'Final Fantasy Anthologies' which included Final Fantasy V and VI now released under it's proper title. Also for the PS1 came 'Final Fantasy Chronicles' which included Final Fantasy IV, again now released under it's proper title, and Chrono Trigger. Of course last console generation, the remakes really started flying, so for the GBA we saw 'Final Fantasy: Dawn of Souls' which included a remake of the original Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy II, that is the original Final Fantasy II that up until then had not shown it's face outside of Japan.
Long story short, if you're familiar with the history of the series, the numbering makes sense.
Long story short, if you're familiar with the history of the series, the numbering makes sense.
theyve re-released every game in america and 2 and 3 are not 5 and 6, that is just what they called them over here because they didnt port the other ones over yet. 1-13 all our all completely different games with nothing connecting them besides a few minor things, but i cant say much for any of the spin off games
final fantasy 1 - NES, released in both Japan and US as Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy 2 - NES, unreleased in US
Final Fantasy 3 - NES, unreleased in US
Final Fantasy 4 - SNES, Released in the US as Final Fantasy 2
Final Fantasy 5 - SNES, unreleased in US
Final Fantasy 6 - SNES, released in the US as Final Fantasy 3
Final Fantasy 7 - PSX, Released both in Japan and the US as Final Fanasy 7.
Final Fantasy 4 and 6 are not remakes of Final Fantasy 2 and 3, but were just renamed for their american releases because 2, 3 and 5 were not released in US until many years later
Final Fantasy 2 - NES, unreleased in US
Final Fantasy 3 - NES, unreleased in US
Final Fantasy 4 - SNES, Released in the US as Final Fantasy 2
Final Fantasy 5 - SNES, unreleased in US
Final Fantasy 6 - SNES, released in the US as Final Fantasy 3
Final Fantasy 7 - PSX, Released both in Japan and the US as Final Fanasy 7.
Final Fantasy 4 and 6 are not remakes of Final Fantasy 2 and 3, but were just renamed for their american releases because 2, 3 and 5 were not released in US until many years later
In order to understand this thing, we need a flashback.
The year now is 1991, Square USA have relatively recently released the localised version of Final Fantasy, and are beavering away on localising the sequel, but wait, what's this? A wild SNES appeared!
The release of the SNES was a crucial branchpoint in history. Square could continue to release the NES games, thereby locking themselves to the old hardware, or they could down tools and start work on the latest Japanese release, the much prettier Final Fantasy IV. They opted to do the latter and, recognising that Americans are easily confused by nonsequential numbers and difficult gameplay, dumbed the whole thing down considerably and renamed it Final Fantasy II.
When the time came to do Final Fantasy VI, (V having been considered too fiddly for yanks), Ted Woolsey was in charge, and that meant there were no rules about what things ended up being called or how the dialogue was written, so this one was called Final Fantasy III.
It wasn't until Final Fantasy VII that it was generally accepted that people would realise that the reason that the numbers had jumped was that some games had skipped localisation and the actual title was used (plus they probably couldn't be bothered to rerender the opening CGI with a new title graphic).
The year now is 1991, Square USA have relatively recently released the localised version of Final Fantasy, and are beavering away on localising the sequel, but wait, what's this? A wild SNES appeared!
The release of the SNES was a crucial branchpoint in history. Square could continue to release the NES games, thereby locking themselves to the old hardware, or they could down tools and start work on the latest Japanese release, the much prettier Final Fantasy IV. They opted to do the latter and, recognising that Americans are easily confused by nonsequential numbers and difficult gameplay, dumbed the whole thing down considerably and renamed it Final Fantasy II.
When the time came to do Final Fantasy VI, (V having been considered too fiddly for yanks), Ted Woolsey was in charge, and that meant there were no rules about what things ended up being called or how the dialogue was written, so this one was called Final Fantasy III.
It wasn't until Final Fantasy VII that it was generally accepted that people would realise that the reason that the numbers had jumped was that some games had skipped localisation and the actual title was used (plus they probably couldn't be bothered to rerender the opening CGI with a new title graphic).
FF I and II (the NES games) were released in a compilation PAL version for the PSX, it was called Final Fantasy: Origins.
This further confuses things, because (I think) there are now two different games that have been released called FF II in Europe and NA.
This further confuses things, because (I think) there are now two different games that have been released called FF II in Europe and NA.
