Final Fantasy X HD Remaster... Seriously.

[JeanLuc761]

Uhh...not for nothing, but the argument being had is about why they won't make a FF7 remake. At no point was the topic about anything but the fact that they did FFX but haven't done 7 yet. Go actually read the OP. It's literally a gripe about there not being a FF7 remake.

Their point is that a remastering of a game (which is essentially just slapping higher resolution assets onto the existing models and ensuring the engine runs on the PS3) is infinitely easier and more cost effective than remaking Final Fantasy 7 from the ground up. Their arguments are justified.

Basically, FF7 would cost a fortune and a half to bring into the current (or next) generation, and it's unknown just how many sales of it there would be to offset the cost, much less make a profit. FFX, on the other hand, still looks decent enough that if they boost the resolution to 1080p and up the texture resolution a bit (and maybe use their HD models in all scenes), that's all they'll have to do. Relatively little cost, which makes the number of required purchases far less.

So to the OP, that's why they're opting for a simple, cheap remaster of a very popular installment of the franchise, instead of taking an indescribably massive risk with a remake of the also extremely popular FF7.

 

[Lunar Templar]

indifferent
1) it's square, so i kinda expect this crap
2) i own, nor will be owning, ether of those systems, so this means little to nothing

 

[rcs619]

Ehh, pretty much all the big-selling PS2 games are going to get re-released or re-mastered anyway. It's just a way to make money of the people who want to relive old games they enjoyed, but no longer have access to a PS2 or PS3 with backwards compatibility.

Was always a bit torn on FFX myself. I really did not like the art direction and especially disliked the character design, but the battle system was pretty interesting, and there was a couple good moments here and there. Kind of like FFVIII for me, really. I don't hate it, but I wouldn't call it "good". Other than a few memorable parts, they're kinda meh for me.

I honestly never understood the "They must remake FFVII!" campaign. Don't get me wrong, FFVII was a solid game, and one of the better ones, but it wasn't some perfect super-creation of a game. The story suffered from a few holes, the main villain was kinda simplistic and the ending was extremely unsatisfying. It was a very solid RPG though, with memorable characters and a place in history for its technical achievements at the time.

Really though... unless you, like, re-imagine a property, or look at it from a different angle, most remakes are kind of derivative, and a good chunk of them are nothing more than nostalgia-grabs. Honestly, with it taking Square 3-5 years to make a big-budget game these days, I'd rather have them focusing on new IP's, or new Final Fantasy games than on completely reconstructing a PS1 game on a current-gen console.

Let's be honest here too. If Advent Children, Before Crisis and Dirge of Cerberus are any indication, they'd probably just screw it up anyway. Turn it into a bunch of anime cliches and brooding.

I understand wanting older games to be remade. Hell, I'd LOVE to see Final Fantasy VI, Chrono Trigger or The Legend of Dragoon get a next-gen remake, but with as long as it takes to make games, I'd rather encourage 3-5 years of creativity than reconstructing someone else's work.

 

[Vivi22]

Dare I say it? The Final Fantasy fan base is infamous for wanting a Final Fantasy VII remake. But Squeenix just blew every piece of common sense out of the water after announcing a Final Fantasy X remastering.

I think it's safe to say that nobody saw that coming.

Huh? Every developer, publisher, and their mothers have been releasing HD upscaled versions of last gen games lately. I'm pretty sure everyone expected Square to throw there hat in with FFX and possible XII on this one because it's dirt cheap to do and it's easy money. Most FF fans I know have been expecting this for months because it is common sense for Square to do it.

Outraged that they're remaking a game that doesn't need to be remade?

It's not a remake.

Or just plain outraged that they got the memo about what the fans would shell out for, read about half of what was on it, and misread VII as X.

I can guarantee fans will still shell out more than enough for this to make it profitable for Square. Moreover, fans expecting a full blown remake of FFVII have absolutely no idea how much that would actually cost and how long it would take to make. If they didn't start it by now it'd be too late to bother for this generation, and it isn't going to be any cheaper on a next gen console. I really don't see it ever happening and if it does I'm not convinced it will turn enough profit to justify it. FFVII is a pretty old game at this point and a remake will not be able to satisfy everyone. Either it changes nothing but graphics and most people take a pass because it's the exact same game, or it changes a lot and plenty pass on it because it's not the same game. This isn't some cheap port of a NES or SNES title with some new sprites added in we're talking about. It'd be a game costing in the tens of millions easy which will not be everything fans want it to be. Square doesn't win in the long run if they make it because nostalgia is one hell of a fickle mistress.

 

[anthony87]

Hey, folks?

IT"S NOT A REMAKE.

Your righteous indignation is cute and all, but it's just an HD remastering, they admitted as much. I know that some people will take any chance they get to bag on Squeenix, but seriously? Do your homework.

Hey, folks?

IT"S NOT A REMAKE.

Your righteous indignation is cute and all, but it's just an HD remastering, they admitted as much. I know that some people will take any chance they get to bag on Squeenix, but seriously? Do your homework.

See this guy people? This guy, is smart.

A Remaster is NOT A FUCKING REMAKE. Why is it, that in every thread regarding remasters, people automatically assume it's a remake?

Uhh...not for nothing, but the argument being had is about why they won't make a FF7 remake. At no point was the topic about anything but the fact that they did FFX but haven't done 7 yet. Go actually read the OP. It's literally a gripe about there not being a FF7 remake.

I think what they mean is that people are talking about a FFVII remake in a thread about a FFX remaster.

As for why they won't actually do a FFVII remake? Because they're fools is the first reason that comes to mind.

 

[malestrithe]

Interested, would probably pick it up as soon as I get the system its on.

But, I would rather see FF V or FF VI get the After Years treatment instead.

 

[Frozengale]

I'm not going to complain. I think FFX was good. It and VII are the only ones I really liked.

 

[NightHawk21]

FFX is a good game, and FFX-2 wasn't that bad (ya I said come at me bro). As for wether I'll be getting it, probably not still have the original.

 

[shrekfan246]

Wasn't this announced like a good while ago?

Yeah, I feel like I've gone through a time portal and ended up like, a month in the past. This has already circled around the Escapist Forums quite a few times, I'm shocked that no one else seems to recall that.

Anyway, I've had conversations about the Final Fantasy series many times, on here and with my friends.

Going onto the off-topic topic that's started raging in this thread: Final Fantasy VII would technically cost more to remake than, say, Final Fantasy XIII cost, if it were a faithful remake. Because the game world of VII is much, much, much larger than XIII, remaking every area with every monster and then implementing a world map again for the first time since the PS2 era first came out would be a task. Now, I'm of the opinion that Squeenix could still easily do it, but I feel that they've become disillusioned with their fans.

Though, to be fair, I think most of the large publishing companies have become disillusioned with all of their piles of money that roll in and subsequently get squandered away and grow into tumorous debts.

 

[burningdragoon]

The only stupid thing Square has done regarding a FF7 remake was releasing the tech demo that got people's hopes up.

 

[Austin Howe]

Who the fuck resurrected this thread? Weren't we on this months ago?

 

[scorptatious]

Wasn't this announced like a good while ago?

Why yes it was, in fact I remember posting in the thread that announced it.

OT: I really don't mind to be honest. While I probably won't be buying it seeing as how I have a copy of the original game, I'm sure this is great news for people who have enjoyed the game and looking to play it in shiny HD.

As for the whole remake FFVII thing? I wouldn't mind seeing something like that. But I can deal with it not being remade.

 

[Tony2077]

well its one of the few i'm missing so hurry up and release it oh and give me 3 as well

 

[scorptatious]

well its one of the few i'm missing so hurry up and release it oh and give me 3 as well

Wasn't FF3 remade for the DS? Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Risingblade]

What the hell are you talking about? Lots of people loved X >.>

 

[Austin Howe]

I got it!

Project Meteorfall!

 

[Tony2077]

well its one of the few i'm missing so hurry up and release it oh and give me 3 as well

Wasn't FF3 remade for the DS? Correct me if I'm wrong.

i don't own and yes it was

 

[GundamSentinel]

It's just another HD remaster, I don't know what the fuss is about. FFX is one of my favorite FF games, so I'm quite happy about it. I'd like them to do the same for FFXII. Man, I loved that game.

Personally, I don't care much about FFVII, but it would be nice of Squeenix to give the fans their much awaited remake.

 

[devotedsniper]

To be honest i think 7 to 10 should be remade but 10 needs it the least, in all fairness the graphics even by todays standards still look nice. It's just a shame i won't be able to play it because i don't have a ps3.

 

[babinro]

Keeping in mind that I actually like FFX more than FF7 (though don't have a high opinion of either).

I think it's a slap in the face to revisit this title when the fans clearly want something else.