lol, last time I heard someone use the word "grand" like that was when I got a fishing pole in a Pokemon game
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... So there's nothing we can do for people with swine flu because it's likely a descendent of spanish flu? I call bullshit on that. People have recovered from it already. But I'm not going to argue any more, cause all you're gonna do is dump half a readers digest at me and I'm gonna lose the will to read through it.Ragdrazi said:
I agree, some things are beyond our control. Volcanoes for example. But a virus that can be treated like any other is not one of them. Personally I don't know why you see the need to quote spanish flu to stir people into a panicked frenzy, but then again you're probably one of those people that likes to stir the pot.
Well that sucks. I've been trying to make everyone panic but even stupid high school students are to smart for this bullshit
Meh, my mighty Bird Flu shall kick Swine Flu's ass!
And then the Aids shall take up the rear of the field....
Sphincter....
Okay, I'm all out =[
It's just the press pushing another "thing" on us. Wait a month
And then the Aids shall take up the rear of the field....
Sphincter....
Okay, I'm all out =[
It's just the press pushing another "thing" on us. Wait a month
"The strain responsible for the 2009 swine flu outbreak in most cases causes only mild symptoms and the infected person makes a full recovery without requiring medical attention and without the use of antiviral medicines"
Well, I see no reason to panic. Some people just won't be able to fight off the infection. It's not like the Black Plague or the virus I'm cooking up..........wait disregard that last part (shifty eyes).
Well, I see no reason to panic. Some people just won't be able to fight off the infection. It's not like the Black Plague or the virus I'm cooking up..........wait disregard that last part (shifty eyes).
A mix of avian flu, regular flu, and a new strain from pigs. People who have had flu innoculations seem to be pretty resistant to it, and if you have high quality healthcare, you should be fine, even if you do get it. It's big enough to be on your mental radar, as its spreading fast and quite a few people have died, but not enough to get hyper-paranoid about. Just be cautious, and make sure you wash your hands.SharPhoe said:
When people say that they mean that Swine Flu won't become a pandemic, not that it will do absolutely nothing. They just think it won't have a very big effect, and I agree.hannahdonno said:
Unless you can provide citations, people should ignore this as being complete and utter bullshit. (and no, Wikipedia is NOT a credible source for probative evidence. The sources that Wikipedia articles cite might be, but oddly enough, the paragraph where this bogus info probably comes from still states ) There has never been a widespread disease that killed that rapidly: it would actually be an anti-evolutionary trait for a pathogen, as the virus would kill its host (and by extention itself) too rapidly to spread effectively. As for the time to live (huh, whole different meaning to that outside of networking jargon, isn't it?), records show that only the very infirm died in 24 hours (particularly those with lung problems), so your use of the word 'typical' is incorrect as well.Ragdrazi said:
If people reading this really want to learn about the possibility (some would argue 'probability') of 'The Stand' type, 'virus wiping out the world' scenarios, go to your local library and read "The Coming Plague" by Laurie Garrett. It is a scientifically researched analysis of the emerging threats in regards to microorganisms. Be warned, tho: it is dry as all hell.
And dude, you may not care if you provoke a panic, but you still shouldn't intentionally spread fear. Not only is it dangerous and petty, it's also of questionable legality-- like yelling 'Fire' in a crowded movie theater. Trust me, if you get off on people freaking out, just sit back and watch: stupidity is the absolute most effective contagion known to Man. Don't help it along tho- it really doesn't need any assistance.
By all means, please do. I will admit that I did not specifically research the Spanish Influenza Pandemic personally, so it is entirely possible that I could be wrong. But until you do-- and this is the whole point-- your opinion is no more valid than mine: that is why I tacked on the provisio "Unless you provide citations."Ragdrazi said:
See, I do have access to information specifically relevant to epidemiology that I'm sure 99.99999% of the people do not: namely a spouse with a postgrad degree and training in microbiology and genetics, with a focus specifically on epidemiology. Thing is, tho, since it's a person rather than a document, that knowledge is hearsay. I know that. That's why I do not offer myself up as an authority figure. So I was offering you the opportunity to source your statements, and if you can, I will apologize. But until then, you can't say something as provactive as "people were walking down the street, caught Spanish Influenza, and died before they could even make it to the hospital" or "Typically, people got this and died in 24 hours" because those statements imply that the Swine Flu situation is far more serious than it has been made out to be, since it is at least in part a genetic variant of Spanish Flu. I think you may be sensationalizing it a bit.
All these animal flus are so funny when they come out with another that's named after a country then I'll be worried. Spanish flu anybody?
Yeah, but you know how it is today. Media panics too much. Then people panic. Its fucking contagious man.xmetatr0nx said:
True true. I'd ordinarily say that you got me there, but the thing is, there are a lot of school-age kids who hang out on these forums. I honestly try to set a good example. In fact, that's the whole reason I replied in the first place: I was dead serious-- you give me a reference and I'll say you were right. But people need to learn that you can't just say provacative stuff without backing it up-- that will get you into big, big trouble down the road... and- of course- clutter these forums in the meantime.Ragdrazi said:
Gah! Die news media! Die!Daezd said:
Okay, here we have a potencial threat. Everyone's scared of the unknown and invisible, so it's safe to say that viruses are scary. But then you have fear moungering. What the media do to gain attention and the all mighty $$$.
This is little more then a scary flu. It's killed a few people, a lot lot less then what the normal flu does, and yet it's hyped to be the next apocolypse! Look out people, get your gas masks on for the Swine Flu!
The local paper (whom after yesterday I hate and will eagerly burn to the ground if I had the chance) reported that over 150 people are now dead in the ground because of it! Wasn't it a number in the single digets? But never fear, because all pharamasies should have a drug that is a proven cure for Swine except the big wigs aren't letting anyone touch it. Okay, so now I'm supposed to be mad at the government because they have a mythological drug that doesn't exist. Bravo!
The paper even started off with: 'The deadly virus sweeping Queensland,' to which a few paragraphs in stated: 'No known cases have been reported in Australia yet.'
At this point I feel inclined to say, 'fuck you' to all my local newspapers. Screw off and burn in hell 'respectable papers.' Now I have no source bar the internet.
Yes, a few may be affected, and I hope they get better soon, but I'm convinced it's just another scare like "Bird Flu" and "C.J.D." etc.