Fishing with cats and kittens :/

[Abedeus]

http://www.saveourcatsfromfishermen.com/

Don't watch the video, unless you can handle a poor kitten on a fishing hook...

 

[Wolvaroo]

As sickening as this is, the bottom line is a cat is an animal just like any other potential live bait and does not deserve any additional rights just because we've domesticated them.

It also helps to remember that felines are nature's killing machines.

 

[Trivun]

There are some sick people out there who don't care about anything but their own entertainment. I can't say that I've not seen worse things because that would be a lie, but I love cats and I cannot see any justification for this. How about we stick a hook through those fishermen next time and use them as bait?

 

[Knight Templar]

As sickening as this is, the bottom line is a cat is an animal just like any other potential live bait and does not deserve any additional rights just because we've domesticated them.

It also helps to remember that felines are nature's killing machines.

So we should butcher them?

You logic is broken, how manny people devote their lives to worms?

 

[Abedeus]

As sickening as this is, the bottom line is a cat is an animal just like any other potential live bait and does not deserve any additional rights just because we've domesticated them.

It also helps to remember that felines are nature's killing machines.

There is a difference between a fish eating another fish and a shark eating a helpless cat, that can't even escape.

Would you also defend it if someone used babies to bait?

 

[slxiii]

As sickening as this is, the bottom line is a cat is an animal just like any other potential live bait and does not deserve any additional rights just because we've domesticated them.

It also helps to remember that felines are nature's killing machines.

There is a difference between a fish eating another fish and a shark eating a helpless cat, that can't even escape.

Would you also defend it if someone used babies to bait?

babies=/=cats

if it were a fish on the hook, it would be helpless as well

 

[Knight Templar]

babies=/=cats

Not with his logic.

 

[Abedeus]

As sickening as this is, the bottom line is a cat is an animal just like any other potential live bait and does not deserve any additional rights just because we've domesticated them.

It also helps to remember that felines are nature's killing machines.

There is a difference between a fish eating another fish and a shark eating a helpless cat, that can't even escape.

Would you also defend it if someone used babies to bait?

babies=/=cats

if it were a fish on the hook, it would be helpless as well

Humans are mammals, animals.

Kittens = baby cats.

Fish on a hook has much bigger mobility. It can swim faster and even try to dive deeper, so it has slightly higher chance of surviving.

Besides, the fish would die eaten some day, anyway. Nobody sane would say a cat would die eaten by a shark ANYWAY.

 

[Lyiat]

... I have to say it....

Sea Kittens.

PETA fail. Anyway, this is fairly cruel in my book. Cats and kittens are family pets. That is what they are bred and raised for. I would no more fish with a cuddly kitten than I would my father's red-bellied piranha. Its a PET!

 

[Omnidum]

Aww, I thought it was about those sea kittens again. Yet, I don't think felines would be the right bait. Predators taste more horrible than the herbivores we eat.

EDIT: Damnit, ninja'd about the sea kittens.

 

[Trivun]

... I have to say it....

Sea Kittens.

PETA fail. Anyway, this is fairly cruel in my book. Cats and kittens are family pets. That is what they are bred and raised for. I would no more fish with a cuddly kitten than I would my father's red-bellied piranha. Its a PET!

Actually, although I disagree with the use of cats as live bait (see my earlier post), cats and kittens are not specifically there for us to have as pets. They are still animals that without humans would be living wild like any other animal. It is only the actions of a few who domesticated them that make us think they are there simply as pets and nothing else. However, I do otherwise agree with your point, although I'd say it is more than just 'fairly' cruel.

 

[Rednog]

First of all, it is fake.
Second, why do people automatically run to get the torches and pitchforks when it involves an animal that is pet or pet-like. Honestly, if there was a video of someone tossing a pig into water and having a shark chomp into it most people would be like omg cool! But as soon as fido or mittens comes into play its time to throw the people to the sharks.
Third, welcome to animals eating other animals, I don't see anyone running to stop the hungry lion from eating the sickly gazelle, it can't defend itself, it can't get away. Or how about the cow that gets slaughtered my machines, he can't get away...

 

[Abedeus]

First of all, it is fake.

Second, why do people automatically run to get the torches and pitchforks when it involves an animal that is pet or pet-like. Honestly, if there was a video of someone tossing a pig into water and having a shark chomp into it most people would be like omg cool! But as soon as fido or mittens comes into play its time to throw the people to the sharks.

Third, welcome to animals eating other animals, I don't see anyone running to stop the hungry lion from eating the sickly gazelle, it can't defend itself, it can't get away. Or how about the cow that gets slaughtered my machines, he can't get away...

About the fake - Can't be sure.

Second - Still would be cruelty.

Third - I don't recall cats living in the sea or in Africa. So getting eaten by a shark isn't something natural.

 

[Lyiat]

... I have to say it....

Sea Kittens.

PETA fail. Anyway, this is fairly cruel in my book. Cats and kittens are family pets. That is what they are bred and raised for. I would no more fish with a cuddly kitten than I would my father's red-bellied piranha. Its a PET!

Actually, although I disagree with the use of cats as live bait (see my earlier post), cats and kittens are not specifically there for us to have as pets. They are still animals that without humans would be living wild like any other animal. It is only the actions of a few who domesticated them that make us think they are there simply as pets and nothing else. However, I do otherwise agree with your point, although I'd say it is more than just 'fairly' cruel.

The problem with your viewpoint is that the domesticated cats we have at this current time would not exist without human intervention with their breeding cycles. They -are- pets, as we created them through forced evolution. This is much like the way that a domesticated wolf and, say, a greyhound are different. A greyhound is a domesticated animal meant to be kept by humans in captivity, be that a home or otherwise, and it is in no way a "wild" animal anymore. A domesticated wolf, however, will always keep its wild side, even several generations down the road (if purely-bred as a wolf). They are not, and will never be, a "pet" as we have come to known them.

 

[Knight Templar]

So we should butcher [the fishermen]?

Yes, and paraphrasing to completely change the meaning of a statement makes me exceedingly happy.

Don't do that.

 

[Lyiat]

So we should butcher [the fishermen]?

Yes, and paraphrasing to completely change the meaning of a statement makes me exceedingly happy.

Don't do that.

I am now filled with sadness and some form of tap water which is rather awful.

Stop playing Fallout 3 then.

 

[Rednog]

First of all, it is fake.

Second, why do people automatically run to get the torches and pitchforks when it involves an animal that is pet or pet-like. Honestly, if there was a video of someone tossing a pig into water and having a shark chomp into it most people would be like omg cool! But as soon as fido or mittens comes into play its time to throw the people to the sharks.

Third, welcome to animals eating other animals, I don't see anyone running to stop the hungry lion from eating the sickly gazelle, it can't defend itself, it can't get away. Or how about the cow that gets slaughtered my machines, he can't get away...

About the fake - Can't be sure.

Second - Still would be cruelty.

Third - I don't recall cats living in the sea or in Africa. So getting eaten by a shark isn't something natural.

1) You never see the hooks physically pierce the cats, every time they lift the cat out of view as they "put it in", you never physically see the cat get eaten by a shark or a marlin. You'd think that maybe a cat would be really pissed off if it had a hook in its back and was dangled from a wire as its flesh was physically stretched but not it is under no distress and just spins there. It is fake.
2) So where do you draw the line of what can or cannot be used as bait?
3) Cows don't normally live in slaughter houses.
And the obvious question is why people would bother to use a cat in the first place. Simply put it is a scam by some idiot to get t-shirts. If it was real you'd hear about it all over the news.