Well that was unexpected... This guy sounds perfect for trying to fix the problems.
Is this microsoft or am I dead?
Is this microsoft or am I dead?
Former Steam Boss Joins Microsoft Games Division
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Past experience with GFWL, it gets between me and my games. It's been nothing but headaches and trouble. I'm all for competition, thus why I don't mind Origin, but when it's literally a pain to use to the point that I reduce playing a game or just stop all together because GFWL is too annoying, it's a bad sign. Like I said, Windows 8 store looks like a reboot and sofar isn't too bad. I'm not against a microsoft store, I just hate GFWL specifically.Doom972 said:
I agree with you about GFWL but I don't see why it can't be fixed. Personally, I have 2 problems with it:RicoADF said:
1) Logging in - It has to log in whenever you start the game (a trade-off for not running in the background I guess). That log-in process is longer than it should be and sometimes doesn't work properly.
2) No proper offline mode - If you try to play your game while offline, you can't access saves. Inexcusable and unforgivable.
Since other services have managed to avoid/solve these problems, I don't see a reason why Microsoft won't be able to. As for Win8 store - maybe they plan on integrating GFWL into the store in a way that would effectively eliminate GFWL as we know it?
You hit the nail on the head, the whole login anoyance and then if it doesn't because it's being moody then you basically can't play your game, it's stupid. If they did that then wonderful, just GFWL as it stands is utterly useless and I'm glad I haven't seen it in a new game in years.Doom972 said:
I don't see how they can "fix" GFWL. If they remove every annoyance any user has ever experienced with it, then what? Would you download and use it?
Is there a single thing they could do that would sell it, other than "its not Steam"?
Is there a single thing they could do that would sell it, other than "its not Steam"?
To the people that like to say 'nay' about a potential MS online store, or EA's origin store not allowing their games on steam or other platforms, let me ask you this: can I buy valve games on origin? can I buy left 4 dead 2 on greenmangaming? Can I buy half life 2 on gamersgate?
yeah, thats what I thought.
yeah, thats what I thought.
Honestly, the bigger problem right now with the online DRM schemes is that everyone is doing their own instead of just getting together and picking one standard. Considering whatever each guy chooses to use ends up on our computers and looking at the amount of space Steam itself has reserved, it would quickly eat through RAM and CPU cycles. Heck, even if something uses Steam right now, the publisher may still require it's own DRM program or account system anyway. These publishers should just invest in a separate system that they jointly control, but that seems less likely than EA scrapping origin and having all their games released on steam. Their might be a glimmer of hope if the Open Source community manages to make something.
It's very late to the party. I mean, even Origen is more popular and people actively choose not to use Origen because of the laughable idea of giving EA control over one's library. Still, I'd trust a legitimate Microsoft option on pc more than Origen so it has a chance to gain ground.
My eventual goal is to convince EA to stop holding the few good games they put out hostage to Origen.
My eventual goal is to convince EA to stop holding the few good games they put out hostage to Origen.
Goodluck trying to promote a platform where the company actively sabotages it, by paying money to other companies so they don't release games on the PC in favour of their console.
How are you supposed to make headway with a corporate structure that's that self-destructive?
How are you supposed to make headway with a corporate structure that's that self-destructive?
I'll be interested to see what comes of this. Having a guy who was a driving force of an actually successful digital platform may be good for Microsoft but at the same time, given what I've read of all the other times Microsoft's bureaucracy has bitten them in the ass, it could be possible that he won't even be able to get the job done because things are just too inflexible over there.Neronium said:
Like I said, I'll be interested to see what actually happens. But I'm not sure that Microsoft's biggest problem right now or in the past is a lack of people with vision.
Microsoft has such great potential. They have all the infrastructure and support to pull of this en devour, so long as they actually listen to the guy. All they need to do is take their existing Microsoft Store and make it practical and more robust. The trick is convincing developers to support it. If they can make it practical for both devs and consumers to use Steam could have a small competitor in a few years. (well, at least Origin would ^.^)
Uh... Microsoft has relatively few exclusives compared to the other consoles is often more likely to have a console exclusive that is also available on pc.Jumwa said:
Also, if they are more motivated to have this service, we may see a future where the pc games on that account are also playable on the Microsoft consoles. A sort of de facto steam on a console like we wanted.
The biggest point is this, it isn't EA's Origen.
I think its too little too late even if he does manage to pull a rabbit out of the hat with GFWL. Microsoft has long pissed off the PC users with its open contempt for them as a market and as customers, and people have long long memories.
That and they didn't really help themselves by never even trying to address the shitty problems that GFWL causes like it randomly deleting peoples saved games to name one at random.
One thing that could work in their favour though is to have the XB exclusives also exclusive to GWFL, it might add an incentive for some people. Then again its still Microsoft so they are more likely to fuck this up like anything else they have touched since the departure of Bill Gates.
That and they didn't really help themselves by never even trying to address the shitty problems that GFWL causes like it randomly deleting peoples saved games to name one at random.
One thing that could work in their favour though is to have the XB exclusives also exclusive to GWFL, it might add an incentive for some people. Then again its still Microsoft so they are more likely to fuck this up like anything else they have touched since the departure of Bill Gates.