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pirateninj4

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10489

Did anyone else know this? And if so, how many of you have shared this information to your friends and family. I had no idea that this was the case, it certainly shocked me as an immigrant coming to America that this was the system, after I had heard of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. This system is totally self serving, and it is NOT in the interest of the American people AT ALL.

I am interested in hearing back from people who knew, or people who didn't know and now know and how they feel about it. No conspiracy talk or flamenuts in here, just responses to the information and feelings on the subject. Thank you.
 

RoboPenguin

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Yeah it sucks. Especially about how it was founded. There's quite a few people who believe that the reserve should be done away with and that it has caused a great deal of problems economically both past and present. I haven't done that much research into it myself so I couldn't tell you if they're right or wrong. I'm just spouting off what I've overheard in several debates among co-workers.
 

Bretty

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Last time I checked you are a Capitalist nation.... 'Capital' being chief.

Who can make capital better the Gov't or business?

I'll give you a clue, Gov't cant even spend money correctly. Every country has a central bank, the difference between say the US and the British is the amount of Gov't control.

Lets not forget that even though times are bad now, in just over a year the price of the Pound to US has dropped 50c.... from 2.15$ - 1gbp to closing 1.45$ - 1gbp, sounds like the reserve and your banking institutions are working well?
 

SilentHunter7

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Bretty said:
Last time I checked you are a Capitalist nation.... 'Capital' being chief.

Who can make capital better the Gov't or business?
You don't know American businesses. We don't generate capital, we move it around. We've become a nation of traders. Just look at our top businesses. They're all banks, insurance, and oil companies.
 

pirateninj4

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SilentHunter7 said:
Bretty said:
Last time I checked you are a Capitalist nation.... 'Capital' being chief.

Who can make capital better the Gov't or business?
You don't know American businesses. We don't generate capital, we move it around. We've become a nation of traders. Just look at our top businesses. They're all banks, insurance, and oil companies.
This. The seedy underground of what the system is is that the country is illegally taxed, and those taxes go to the private corporation, not the government. Banks aren't interested in progression for the country, they are only interested in the interests of their bosses.
 

Bretty

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SilentHunter7 said:
Bretty said:
Last time I checked you are a Capitalist nation.... 'Capital' being chief.

Who can make capital better the Gov't or business?
You don't know American businesses. We don't generate capital, we move it around. We've become a nation of traders. Just look at our top businesses. They're all banks, insurance, and oil companies.
You don't generate capital huh? Wow.....
 

Gerazzi

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Screw America, I'm making a new country.
Any Sonic the Hedgehog fans cannot come into this country.
 

captainwalrus

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Just from my basic Econ 101 knowledge, I can point out some glaring flaws in her argument.

Interest paid on Federal Reserve reserve requirement is probably set to the level of inflation. I mean, if interest wasn't paid on the banks' reserve requirement, then the banks would essentially be losing money, due to inflation. And that money isn't really coming out of the taxpayers' pocket, it comes from the money generated. Essentially, we're better off with a reserve requirement, because it helps stymie artificial inflation, due to loans.

One of the key benefits for an independent Federal Reserve is that the money supply isn't in the hands of politicians. There's actually a correlative effect between the amount of inflation a country experiences and its central bank's independence, namely more independence, less inflation. This is due to politicians being able to influence the monetary decisions of the central banks, usually leading to the generation of more money. Thus, more inflation.
 

fulano

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How do people exactly think that the U.S got in debt to China for trillions of dollars? Weird, I thought it was common knowledge.

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Gerazzi said:
Screw America, I'm making a new country.
Any Sonic the Hedgehog fans cannot come into this country.
Burn!
 

Mullahgrrl

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Thats what you get for capitalism.
Also, I told you so.

Gerazzi said:
Screw America, I'm making a new country.
Any Sonic the Hedgehog fans cannot come into this country.

How about fans of the satAM? (the good one obviously)
 

Rajin Cajun

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What is Facism? I know what Fascism is but not a bloody clue what Facism is...is it a political ideology based on facial Structure?
 

Anarchy In Detroit

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Fascism is generally whatever the fuck it wants to be. Generally if you're an intolerant authoritarian douchebag you can probably be a fascist.

Anyhow America is screwed because we treat our workers like shit and let the CEOs rob the coffers... you know because business people are all shining examples of hard work and morality... and giant coke parties

Banks? We let them get so big that if even one fails we're fucked! But god forbid the gubment keeps an eye on these idiots.

Oh and the government? They're all paid off and hired by the people mentioned above. Somehow the ditto heads in this country have this notion that government itself is the problem. I beg to differ. The people we're "voting" in are the problem. If every cop hired was in the Mafia the police wouldn't be very effective. Same thing with government.

From top to bottom we're rotten and falling apart. We're so deep in shit we can't pull ourselves out and if we do it'll only be for a matter of time because we're not honest enough to assess what our real issues are. Even then we don't have the unity, selflessness, and balls to address those problems.
 

pirateninj4

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Anarchy In Detroit said:
Fascism is generally whatever the fuck it wants to be. Generally if you're an intolerant authoritarian douchebag you can probably be a fascist.

Anyhow America is screwed because we treat our workers like shit and let the CEOs rob the coffers... you know because business people are all shining examples of hard work and morality... and giant coke parties

Banks? We let them get so big that if even one fails we're fucked! But god forbid the gubment keeps an eye on these idiots.

Oh and the government? They're all paid off and hired by the people mentioned above. Somehow the ditto heads in this country have this notion that government itself is the problem. I beg to differ. The people we're "voting" in are the problem. If every cop hired was in the Mafia the police wouldn't be very effective. Same thing with government.

From top to bottom we're rotten and falling apart. We're so deep in shit we can't pull ourselves out and if we do it'll only be for a matter of time because we're not honest enough to assess what our real issues are. Even then we don't have the unity, selflessness, and balls to address those problems.
There certainly is a dark curtain being pulled over the country, but there are people out there that care, and that have seen through the lies...Ron Paul for one.
 

The_Prophet

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pirateninj4 said:
Anarchy In Detroit said:
Fascism is generally whatever the fuck it wants to be. Generally if you're an intolerant authoritarian douchebag you can probably be a fascist.

Anyhow America is screwed because we treat our workers like shit and let the CEOs rob the coffers... you know because business people are all shining examples of hard work and morality... and giant coke parties

Banks? We let them get so big that if even one fails we're fucked! But god forbid the gubment keeps an eye on these idiots.

Oh and the government? They're all paid off and hired by the people mentioned above. Somehow the ditto heads in this country have this notion that government itself is the problem. I beg to differ. The people we're "voting" in are the problem. If every cop hired was in the Mafia the police wouldn't be very effective. Same thing with government.

From top to bottom we're rotten and falling apart. We're so deep in shit we can't pull ourselves out and if we do it'll only be for a matter of time because we're not honest enough to assess what our real issues are. Even then we don't have the unity, selflessness, and balls to address those problems.
There certainly is a dark curtain being pulled over the country, but there are people out there that care, and that have seen through the lies...Ron Paul for one.
People who see thru the lies generally get killed.
 

Danzaivar

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Bretty said:
Last time I checked you are a Capitalist nation.... 'Capital' being chief.

Who can make capital better the Gov't or business?

I'll give you a clue, Gov't cant even spend money correctly. Every country has a central bank, the difference between say the US and the British is the amount of Gov't control.

Lets not forget that even though times are bad now, in just over a year the price of the Pound to US has dropped 50c.... from 2.15$ - 1gbp to closing 1.45$ - 1gbp, sounds like the reserve and your banking institutions are working well?
I'm sure that has everything to do with the fed being better run than the BoE than say, the US dollar being the world reserve currency? Seriously with the amount of debt the US is in, if it wasn't the reserve currency it'd be bankrupt ages ago...

And it's the reserve currency because it was the strongest standing economy after WW2, because Europe was screwed big time. Let's not forget that.
 

Rolling Thunder

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ph3onix said:
pirateninj4 said:
Anarchy In Detroit said:
Fascism is generally whatever the fuck it wants to be. Generally if you're an intolerant authoritarian douchebag you can probably be a fascist.

Anyhow America is screwed because we treat our workers like shit and let the CEOs rob the coffers... you know because business people are all shining examples of hard work and morality... and giant coke parties

Banks? We let them get so big that if even one fails we're fucked! But god forbid the gubment keeps an eye on these idiots.

Oh and the government? They're all paid off and hired by the people mentioned above. Somehow the ditto heads in this country have this notion that government itself is the problem. I beg to differ. The people we're "voting" in are the problem. If every cop hired was in the Mafia the police wouldn't be very effective. Same thing with government.

From top to bottom we're rotten and falling apart. We're so deep in shit we can't pull ourselves out and if we do it'll only be for a matter of time because we're not honest enough to assess what our real issues are. Even then we don't have the unity, selflessness, and balls to address those problems.
There certainly is a dark curtain being pulled over the country, but there are people out there that care, and that have seen through the lies...Ron Paul for one.
People who see thru the lies generally get killed.
One can but hope...