French animal rights activist group steals puppy from homeless man.

[Casual Shinji]

Racist animal rights groups?!

...

This world is getting wacky.

Eh, there's no reason why members of a rights group can't be as bigoted as anyone else...excepting on whatever single issue the rights group is about, maybe.

Yeah, but groups like that are generally founded on equal treatment, equality, 'Don't do to others what you don't want done to you'. So, don't treat animals like just meat for the grinder or inanimate objects, because they're living beings just like us. For this group, who I would assume has similar ideals, to then use it to keep animals away from a specific race of people (That being their defense for doing what they did.)... That's just a whole new set of fucking twisted.

 

[FirstNameLastName]

What the fuck is up with the entire god damn crowd of people just standing there, watching a homeless man get assaulted, his dog stolen, and doing absolutely nothing.

Other than that, fuck these evil cunts. It's times like these that I understand why so many people want to believe some deity will send all the arseholes down to hell. Aside from what they've done to this person, they also sully the already troubled reputation of animal welfare, since it gets lumped in with these animal rights zealots. Not to mention spitting in the face of the already questionable public perception of vegans. Fuck Cause Animale Nord.

 

[Katherine Kerensky]

Just watched the video. All I can say as to what I saw happen is "Disgusting".
Excuse me while I walk away and shake my head for an hour.

 

[Scarim Coral]

There're plenty of homeless people with dogs by their side over here (UK) so if they were here, they would snatch the dog off them and sell it online? Gynpys or not, this is NOT ok!

 

[Twintix]

These people aren't activists in my eyes.

They're evil, selfish racists who deliberately try to ruin the lives of people they don't know. The only "active" thing about them is how they're actively going out of their way to be complete and utter scumbags.

And then selling the dog online and naming it "Vegan" just to rub it in further... Oh, they fucking know that this behavior is deplorable.

Goddamnit France, why do you have to treat some foreigners like absolute garbage? Why are people like this allowed to exist and be cunts?

 

[RedRockRun]

It's just a hobo. Does anyone think the hobo could take care of that dog? How do you think the hobo got into that position? Probably addicted to half a dozen drugs.

 

[Leg End]

"Animal Rights"

So I suppose the ?200 is just for shipping, eh?

It's just a hobo. Does anyone think the hobo could take care of that dog? How do you think the hobo got into that position? Probably addicted to half a dozen drugs.

Assumptions are always nice.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

It's just a hobo. Does anyone think the hobo could take care of that dog? How do you think the hobo got into that position? Probably addicted to half a dozen drugs.

Having a pet for companionship and a sense of responsibility goes a long in helping homeless people beat addictions, ease depression, and possibly get back on their feet.

OT: Those "activists" are scum. I hope something terrible happens to them.

captcha: stony-hearted

 

[Lightknight]

For the OP, here is one of many English articles on this matter. The internet is outraged over this: http://www.rt.com/news/316485-activists-steal-dog-homeless/

I just picked that link because it is very recent and very informative. No idea what "rt.com" is otherwise.

These are terrible, awful people. Clearly this kind of criminals are not fit to have children of their own and should have them taken away from them.

In all seriousness though, these people should be prosecuted. That would make me happy. If they were actually held responsible for committing a clearly documented crime.

It's just a hobo. Does anyone think the hobo could take care of that dog? How do you think the hobo got into that position? Probably addicted to half a dozen drugs.

Beggars, contrary to popular belief, can actually make more money that some people with full time jobs. From $100k for beggars outside of a walmart in Oregon to any range of income $15/hour and up.

So yeah, not only do I think he can take care of that dog but I bet people donate food specifically for the dog all the time and give him more than they otherwise would have for the sake of the dog. The dog may have ended up being healthier with a far more active lifestyle than assholes that buy a dog and keep them in a house all day. You may be less capable of providing for this dog than he is if you think about overall well being in that way. That last one is the primary reason why I didn't own a dog until I bought a 6 acre farm for the dog to be able to roam happily around. People don't realize what the sedentary life of especially wealthy people does to dogs. It isn't healthy.

In any event, this simply isn't your or anyone's call to make unless the dog is visibly emaciated. The alternative for most dogs is getting sent to a pound where if they aren't picked up they are disposed of.

 

[Mikeybb]

These are terrible, awful people. Clearly this kind of criminals are not fit to have children of their own and should have them taken away from them.

It's just a hobo. Does anyone think the hobo could take care of that dog? How do you think the hobo got into that position? Probably addicted to half a dozen drugs.

Beggars, contrary to popular belief, can actually make more money that some people with full time jobs. From $100k for beggars outside of a walmart in Oregon to any range of income $15/hour and up.

So yeah, not only do I think he can take care of that dog but I bet people donate food specifically for the dog all the time and give him more than they otherwise would have for the sake of the dog. The dog may have ended up being healthier with a far more active lifestyle than assholes that buy a dog and keep them in a house all day. You may be less capable of providing for this dog than he is if you think about overall well being in that way. That last one is the primary reason why I didn't own a dog until I bought a 6 acre farm for the dog to be able to roam happily around. People don't realize what the sedentary life of especially wealthy people does to dogs. It isn't healthy.

In any event, this simply isn't your or anyone's call to make unless the dog is visibly emaciated. The alternative for most dogs is getting sent to a pound where if they aren't picked up they are disposed of.

True.
I've met homeless people who care for dogs or cats they've found abandoned.
More often than not the animals needs are met as a priority over the persons.
Can't take the financial situation of an individual as an indicator of how they'll treat an animal.

On topic...
I came in here expecting to find, like Obsidianjones, something about rage infected apes and a twenty eight days later apocalypse.
Instead it turns out I'm the rage infected chimpanzee and all it took was two arseholes and a puppy.
Hope the puppy gets home.

 

[Godzillarich(aka tf2godz)]

What the fuck is up with the entire god damn crowd of people just standing there, watching a homeless man get assaulted, his dog stolen, and doing absolutely nothing.

to be fair, thanks to one of them this story went viral when he filmed it.

 

[Qizx]

What the fuck is up with the entire god damn crowd of people just standing there, watching a homeless man get assaulted, his dog stolen, and doing absolutely nothing.

to be fair, thanks to one of them this story went viral when he filmed it.

Instead of stopping it...
I mean I would film it AND try and stop those assholes from stealing his dog, and of this I'm pretty confident.

OT: Can someone PLEASE quote me or message me if there's an update on this? Cause this is actually causing me a decent degree of pure rage and I need closure.

 

[Megalodon]

I just picked that link because it is very recent and very informative. No idea what "rt.com" is otherwise.

I'm pretty sure it's the website of Russia Today. An English language Russian news outlet.

 

[NiPah]

So do these guys burn down orphanages and rape nuns as well?

only on Sundays.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

I remember following a bit of this yesterday.

The $200 was apparently to get the dog shots/etc, much as you'd pay an adoption fee for an animal from the pound. No idea if that price is inflated to present a profit to the dognappers or not.

Also no idea what prompted the dognapping. I'm assuming there was a reason (even if ultimately a stupid or indefensible one), I have no idea what it was though.

Difficult to give the dognappers any benefit of the doubt when they apparently named the dog "Vegan", which ranks high at a startling 98/100 on the "insufferably dipshit things to do" meter. If it's true. Because it sounds rather suspiciously like the invention of a Poe.

Bystander effect notwithstanding, it's a bit startling no one intervened, even if just to calm the situation down. The "animal activists" were hardly physically menacing. While it's lovely that we have folks capturing it on video and posting it to the internet, unleashing viral mobs on context-free situations is not typically a recipe for a rational or helpful resolution.

Things I don't know...

1. Why did they take the dog?
2. Was the dog sick? Did it need prompt medical attention?
3. Did the homeless man abuse, mistreat or neglect the dog? Was he incapable of caring for it?
4. Why was it necessary to physically wrest the dog from the man? Why was this so poorly handled?

I'd like to know all these things before I work myself into a lather of outrage.

I don't condone taking someone's companion animal unless that animal is being maliciously mistreated. If the man was incapably of financially providing for the dog, help him find employment/take care of it, or discuss some kind of joint custody arrangement where the dog can have its needs met without denying the two of them their companionship. The video itself is quite distressing, and my natural reaction would be to immediately intervene. If someone tried to take my pet, I'd wind up in prison as a result of my reaction.

I'd just, y'know...like all the facts before weighing in conclusively.

 

[Neurotic Void Melody]

I'll add to the heap of disgust in these comments, what cunts(not the commenters). Only worthy of said title. Me wonders if they own any pets themselves. And if they have names like "Bigot" and "Arsehole," in which case they could be taken away for their own safety.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

http://www.rt.com/news/316485-activists-steal-dog-homeless/

My post above says most of what i'm about to say .. but the president of the Cause Animal Nord is racist while the activist group itself tried lying twice about the dog's condition which was not backed up nor ever proven.

So that 98 / 100 should go up to 200 / 100 in "levels of dickery" on their part. Because this is downright disgusting and even if they wanted to, you know ... do this for the 'right' reasons ... they wouldn't steal the dog. They'd offer to give the dog shots and return it to the owner in that case. Shots can last years so there's no reason to steal the man's dog.

But the worst offender is naming it Vegan and lying about the dog's race to our faces, and saying it was drugged. WITH WHAT?! But then they failed to provide evidence anyways SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO yeah these people are terrible in every way.

Yeah I read a bit more about it today. Saw the rumors Mars posted about the "drugged dogs" thing, and also that the Homeless man was deaf and that the dog had been a gift after the death of his previous dog.

If the dog was drugged, Cause Animal Nord should be able to provide evidence to support this.

The man's inarticulate wailing seems to support the "deaf" rumor, and that dog seemed pretty awake and alert to me, so...

Definitely looks shady af.

 

[Jack Action]

I saw this one on imgur earlier today.

http://imgur.com/gallery/gaoL4Ta

tl;dr There are rumours that this could be a guy running a known scam that involves selling a puppy, purportedly done by Roma (I take anything said about them with a grain of salt because I hear bigotry towards them endlessly), and then there's rumours that he has actually lived in the area for years and years and that somebody gave him that dog. Then I've also heard rumours that I can only describe as flagrant bigotry, like that he's Roma and therefore was going to eat the dog.

Over here, the puppies are usually just a begging aid, traded in for younger models when they're too old to be cute. Very much doubt they actually sell them in France, even with a heartstrings-tugging "please, the puppy is the last thing I've got left to sell."

Far more likely it's still just a begging aid.

I love that the guy who wrote that is conflating "Romanian" with "Roma," though.

 

[Silvanus]

Yes, and I could be wrong but I think that they need meat in their diet. I know for a fact that some of vegetarians and vegans don't feed their cats products that contain meat, which causes their cats to starve to death because cats need meat. I'm sure that some vegetarians/vegans do the same diets with dogs, which if they need meat, causes dogs to starve to death. They're, frankly, idiots and if you even encounter a person like this contact animal welfare services. Humans can survive without meat, but some of our pets absolutely cannot do so. To vegetarians and vegans who want a pet but are unwilling to purchase meat products for it, a rabbit is recommended, as they're the third-most populated species in animal shelters due to people not knowing how to take care of them, because while they're not low maintenance they're not high maintenance, and obviously most important, because they don't need meat.

It's a bit complicated. Dogs are technically carnivores, but can eat pretty much anything and be happy. It's one of the things that separates dogs from wolves, likely a result of (or trait that led to) their domestication. Dogs can survive on a "vegetarian" diet (I think there's a Border collie that's over 20 and is "vegan"), though it's very rarely necessary. Clinically it's only recommended for the kinds of dogs that are "allergic to everything" or have some sort of urinary stone/crystal issue tied with meat (often found in Dalmatians). Either way, you need to be very careful to make it balanced, and not just hand your dog a fruit salad and call it dinner. Cats are more carnivorous and require more meat to their diet (likely the reason why cat food is more expensive than dog food, pound-for-pound). Taurine is an important part of their diet, and the only way they get it is through animal products. Without taurine, it mucks up with their heart (which can cause death) and retinas (causing blindness). I believe there are records of cats fed vegan diets that have resulted in health issues or death, and I've never heard of a healthy non-meat alternative for them.

In the wild cats are "obligate carnivores", but it's not entirely certain that meat is absolutely irreplaceable. After a look around, it seems there's been at least one study into this [http://www.theguardian.com/environment/blog/2010/may/24/vegetarianism-pets-national-vegetarian-week-cats-dogs], indicating that it's possible to maintain a healthy feline lifestyle without meat (but tricky, and much trickier than with dogs-- it seems that you'd need quite a bit of specialised stuff).

 

[Qizx]

OT: Can someone PLEASE quote me or message me if there's an update on this? Cause this is actually causing me a decent degree of pure rage and I need closure.

I saw this one on imgur earlier today.

http://imgur.com/gallery/gaoL4Ta

tl;dr There are rumours that this could be a guy running a known scam that involves selling a puppy, purportedly done by Roma (I take anything said about them with a grain of salt because I hear bigotry towards them endlessly), and then there's rumours that he has actually lived in the area for years and years and that somebody gave him that dog. Then I've also heard rumours that I can only describe as flagrant bigotry, like that he's Roma and therefore was going to eat the dog.

Thanks for posting that, seems to me as if the people who steal the dog are most likely just giant cunts.

At BEST they're well meaning cunts.