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For all the Doctor Who stuff I'll note that I've rarely ever seen complaints about Captain Jack.
Captain Jack didn't have the "BTW, I'm bisexual" over and over. It was just something presented.

Heck, even Yaz's crush on Thirteen was handled better than Bill.

No it's rather a trend in certain media franchises. E.G. Vagrant Queen was trying to be pretty clear about it's lead being LGBTQ, same with Batwoman.
Wait, are we talking about promotional material, or the show itself? Because in Vagrant Queen, there's a "thing" between Elida and Amae, but it happens naturally, and no-one bats an eyelid.

Also, while I'm here, I'm going to say that Vagrant Queen needs more love. It's as close I've got to finding something akin to Farscape bar GotG. :(

Dude, the point has gone entirely over your head.

I don't think it's making a thing of heterosexuality if straight characters merely show romantic/sexual interest towards someone of the opposite sex.

You do consider it making a thing of homosexuality if gay characters merely show romantic or sexual interest towards someone of the same sex. I'm just trying to get you to apply the same standard, by pointing out how incredibly common it is for straight characters.
I do agree that there's a double standard at large (no-one accuses het. romance of "furthering the straight agenda" for instance), but the problem is that Bill so often had the "BTW, I'm queer" thing. It's contrasted with the likes of Jack and Yaz - Jack's bisexual, Yaz has a thing for the Doctor, but both are handled MUCH better, in that we're shown, not told. Jack and Yaz just do their thing, Bill simply 'mentions' her thing through dialogue for the most part.

yes because the show downplayed them.

Here's a quick one.

What was Bill's job in Doctor Who?
Cafeteria lady, IIRC (without looking anything up).

Bill doesn't rank highly on my list of NuWho companions, but she isn't dead last (looking at you, Chibnall!)
 
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Captain Jack didn't have the "BTW, I'm bisexual" over and over. It was just something presented.

Heck, even Yaz's crush on Thirteen was handled better than Bill.
Man... I think Jack was handled terribly. But then romance with Rose was waaayyy worse. Thank god Doctor Who moved on from all that nonsense. Give me Bill or Yaz romance stuff over anything with Rose anyday

But then, I would not really pick any of these companion as good. Martha was my.... favourite? That's too strong of a word. My adequate companion. Jack second

There was a long streak of Doctor Who going up their own arses with companions
 

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Man... I think Jack was handled terribly. But then romance with Rose was waaayyy worse. Thank god Doctor Who moved on from all that nonsense. Give me Bill or Yaz romance stuff over anything with Rose anyday
Sorry, what?

I can understand people not liking the Doctor having romance with entanglements, but how the heck is RosexDoctor worse than YazxDoctor?
 

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Sorry, what?

I can understand people not liking the Doctor having romance with entanglements, but how the heck is RosexDoctor worse than YazxDoctor?
So Billie Piper was in Penny Dreadful after this. Watching RosexDoctor was as bad as watching her romance in that. Then you that stupid ending for them that it way more bullshit contrivance than I can handle

Note: It's highly possible that your YazxDoctor level of annoyance might be on par with mine or at least close. It's solely Rose and Tennant. I don't know why they keep shipping anyone with the Doctor. Even River was bad with the interesting part being the timey wimey shenanigans. I don't need my Doctor married, and Rose cemented that.
 

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Quisling.



Defund Jacinda Ardern and the New Zealand Labour Party
Not sure how that's "woke," TBH.

Then again, NZ's never really had an anti-China stance in the same way the other Five Eyes have. Though there was one speech by its defence minister that referenced Chinese dragons, and Maori water dragons, and how that made them partners or something...barely remember, but it was weird.
 

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Not sure how that's "woke," TBH.

Then again, NZ's never really had an anti-China stance in the same way the other Five Eyes have. Though there was one speech by its defence minister that referenced Chinese dragons, and Maori water dragons, and how that made them partners or something...barely remember, but it was weird.
The US should kick them out of the five-eyes. How much value does their anti-nuclear, pro-China stance help anyways? She's basically social democrat Jill Stein.
 

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The US should kick them out of the five-eyes. How much value does their anti-nuclear, pro-China stance help anyways?
That's ultimately assuming that China is a major threat to the Pacific. In the region, NZ's about as far away from China as you can get.

She's basically social democrat Jill Stein.
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...sorry, how's that a bad thing? I checked Stein's Wikipedia page, I don't see anything objectionable there. And Ardern's done a pretty good job with NZ overall.
 

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That's ultimately assuming that China is a major threat to the Pacific. In the region, NZ's about as far away from China as you can get.



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...sorry, how's that a bad thing? I checked Stein's Wikipedia page, I don't see anything objectionable there. And Ardern's done a pretty good job with NZ overall.
Her anti-nuclear stance is brain dead, real estate prices for ordinary people in NZ are rising because of foreign oligarchs buying up all of the homes, and her China policy is dumb because it puts all of NZ's eggs in one basket, the CCP basket. A real realpolitik person would play both sides better like India or Indonesia where they buy superior US military tech and freeride from Chinese economic growth.

Now, why is her anti-nuclear stance brain-death, it's because nuclear is relativity very low carbon-emitting, scalable, base power energy-producing power source that many countries rely on instead of natural gas/fracking and other fossil fuels, and nuclear submarines and carriers aren't the same things as actual nuclear weapons but because the Green party morons in her party likely forced her to do this, her state is arbitrary is gainst nuclear power ships and energy for no reason.

And in the future when nuclear fusion, small nuclear reactors, and molten salt thorium reactors come online, NZ's solar, and wind are going to be outdated.

NZ's future is either as a Chinese proxy state/client state, a glass parking lot, or a retreat for rich people while regular NZ citizens can't afford to buy a home.

Also, her foreign minister proves why education doesn't make one smart, and why diversity quotas hires aren't always good.
 

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As for why Jill Stein is a moron. She is anti-nuclear meaning anti-science. Invests in Monsanto despite insulting them, sides with Russian President Putin, and attends a dinner with him and US traitor & insurrectionist Michael Flynn, is an anti-vaxer, against GMO foods which have saved millions of people in the global south, and thinks wifi hurts children's brains, and she was a Brexit supporter early on, plus she thinks the US should decrease the military budget by 50% while China is currently increasing their military budget by GDP PPP.

Bernie Sanders also thinks she's nuts or at least politically toxic which is why he refuses to talk to her.

 

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Now, why is her anti-nuclear stance brain-death, it's because nuclear is relativity very low carbon-emitting, scalable, base power energy-producing power source that many countries rely on instead of natural gas/fracking and other fossil fuels, and nuclear submarines and carriers aren't the same things as actual nuclear weapons but because the Green party morons in her party likely forced her to do this, her state is arbitrary is gainst nuclear power ships and energy for no reason.
Except in the ever narrowing window to avoid the worst outcomes of climate change, it'll take far too long to scale up nuclear. It's all very well to say that nuclear can provide baseload (which it is), or that it's cleaner than fossil fuels (which it is), it's another to build all of that to scale given how expensive the damn thing is.

Also, NZ's energy mix is already 40% renewable, and given how cheap wind and solar are, and NZ's sources of geothermal energy, there isn't much need for nuclear power.

And in the future when nuclear fusion, small nuclear reactors, and molten salt thorium reactors come online, NZ's solar, and wind are going to be outdated.
You're talking about hypotheticals. Fusion, modular reactors, molten salt...those are all neat, but they aren't deployable at scale, and fusion definitely can't be deployed in time. Renewables, on the other hand, are here NOW.

Also, her foreign minister proves why education doesn't make one smart, and why diversity quotas hires aren't always good.
And you know she's a diversity hire because...?

Kooky as her water dragon stuff is, it's not different from other creationists of different faiths and ethnicities. Are they "diversity hires?" Or can we just agree that moulding personal faith into geo-politics is a bad idea no matter who's doing it?

As for why Jill Stein is a moron. She is anti-nuclear meaning anti-science. Invests in Monsanto despite insulting them, sides with Russian President Putin, and attends a dinner with him and US traitor & insurrectionist Michael Flynn, is an anti-vaxer, against GMO foods which have saved millions of people in the global south, and thinks wifi hurts children's brains, and she was a Brexit supporter early on, plus she thinks the US should decrease the military budget by 50% while China is currently increasing their military budget by GDP PPP.
And yet she supports the rollout of renewable energy, electoral reform, favours cutting down US military spending (you brought that up, I see that as a good thing), favours Medicare-for-All, reparations, increased spending on science...

Most of what you listed above I think are valid criticisms, but a lot of what she stands for seems reasonable.
 

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Except in the ever narrowing window to avoid the worst outcomes of climate change, it'll take far too long to scale up nuclear. It's all very well to say that nuclear can provide baseload (which it is), or that it's cleaner than fossil fuels (which it is), it's another to build all of that to scale given how expensive the damn thing is.

Also, NZ's energy mix is already 40% renewable, and given how cheap wind and solar are, and NZ's sources of geothermal energy, there isn't much need for nuclear power.



You're talking about hypotheticals. Fusion, modular reactors, molten salt...those are all neat, but they aren't deployable at scale, and fusion definitely can't be deployed in time. Renewables, on the other hand, are here NOW.



And you know she's a diversity hire because...?

Kooky as her water dragon stuff is, it's not different from other creationists of different faiths and ethnicities. Are they "diversity hires?" Or can we just agree that moulding personal faith into geo-politics is a bad idea no matter who's doing it?



And yet she supports the rollout of renewable energy, electoral reform, favours cutting down US military spending (you brought that up, I see that as a good thing), favours Medicare-for-All, reparations, increased spending on science...

Most of what you listed above I think are valid criticisms, but a lot of what she stands for seems reasonable.
Not to mention the most successful Green Partiers on the planet think she's too nuts even for them.

 

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Not to mention the most successful Green Partiers on the planet think she's too nuts even for them.

Possibly. But even then, I'm left to ask what real chance the Greens, or any third party, has in the US, regardless of leader.

The Republicans have drifted further and further right, and taken the Democrats with them. Biden at least isn't a climate denying nutjob, so there's that I guess.
 

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Professor wins $400K for being disciplined for not using a student's preferred pronouns.

The college investigation determined the professor created a "hostile environment" 😂 😂 😂
This whole "it's against my religion to be polite" shit is why I can't take Christianity seriously anymore. But hey, dude got to siphon $400,000 out a public university, good for him
 

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This whole "it's against my religion to be polite" shit is why I can't take Christianity seriously anymore. But hey, dude got to siphon $400,000 out a public university, good for him
I find this bizarre, unless there's something missing.

A university should provide a respectful and inclusive learning environment for its students. It can academically challenge them, it can have standards of conduct and punish students that infringe, and lecturers can pose difficult and alternative views. But I absolutely do not see how "freedom of speech" reasonably extends to allowing lecturers to denigrate students.

If the university accepts students' declared genders, then it should be able to require its staff to respect students' gender as well.