Funny Events of the "Woke" world

[thebobmaster]

Hey, at least they aren't making it a flat-out crime to get gender affirming surgery...Oh, wait, they are trying to do that. Or at least, someone in the party is.

“Disgusting and Appalling”: Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Introduced A Bill That Criminalizes Performing Transgender Medical Care

MTG's legislation has garnered the support of 14 GOP lawmakers, including Rep. Matt Gaetz and Rep. Lauren Boebert.

www.vanityfair.com

 

[Trunkage]

Do you have any proof Dave Chappelle is transphobic? Words like that just get thrown around today when they have serious meaning. Just because someone makes a sexist joke doesn't mean they are actually sexist you know.

Would it even matter? You arent interested.

Your just interested in tell us how we should perceive the situation

You know, like the mask thing. The ventilation thing. The Ivermectin thing. The trans thing, the trans in sport thing. The Don't Say Gay thing. The whole understanding of laws and how they work thing

It's not about evidence. In fact, giving you any contrary evidence will just increase your belief. There is no point where evidence would change your mind. This is all just telling everyone how you feel and saying that we need to follow it.

You've already been given evidence. You decided it wasn't relavant. Nothing I can say will ever matter. Like every other time

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Mental health considerations should be able to justify an alteration in breast size either way, where psychological treatment alone is insufficient.

If it's deemed by a doctor as medically necessary...

And they do, if you're cis. Phoenix is ignoring, shocker, that conservatives don't consider *any* form of gender affirming surgery, medication, or therapy as medically necessary if you're trans. As proved by Florida banning all of those things from public funding.

How am I ignoring that? You're ignoring all the inequality liberals cause.

Would it even matter? You arent interested.

Your just interested in tell us how we should perceive the situation

You know, like the mask thing. The ventilation thing. The Ivermectin thing. The trans thing, the trans in sport thing. The Don't Say Gay thing. The whole understanding of laws and how they work thing

It's not about evidence. In fact, giving you any contrary evidence will just increase your belief. There is no point where evidence would change your mind. This is all just telling everyone how you feel and saying that we need to follow it.

You've already been given evidence. You decided it wasn't relavant. Nothing I can say will ever matter. Like every other time

There's a difference between bad and good evidence. I can find a study that says vaccines lead to autism. You literally argued that that one video going over the studies we do have for trans gender athletes that all say it's not fair proves that it somehow is fair because the lady said something you liked. So what evidence is there that Dave Chappelle is transphobic vs just not agreeing all on trans issues?

 

[Silvanus]

How am I ignoring that? You're ignoring all the inequality liberals cause.

"How am I ignoring that?" *proceeds to immediate deflection*

 

[Agema]

If it's deemed by a doctor as medically necessary...

Except if they're trans, as you seem to be suggesting.

After all, if you are defending bans, you are effectively arguing it is not up to medical opinion, it's up to political ideology.

How am I ignoring that? You're ignoring all the inequality liberals cause.

Rarely does anyone so plainly confess whataboutism is a central plank of their argument.

 

[Trunkage]

Like it or not Anita's views (even if she herself) have been unfortunately adopted by much of mainstream feminism these days.

No

Between her and MovieBob, that makes up maybe a half million people following them across all platforms combined. They are not even a drop in the bucket

It's not just she forgot the marketing.

She entirely forget the MCU shows on Disney Plus.

Wanda Vision = Female lead Superhero show on Disney Plus
Hawkeye = Arguably the co-lead is a female superhero
Jessica Jones = Female Superhero
Ms Marvel = Female Superhero show.

Earlier this year Black Widow came out specifically on Streaming at the same time as in cinemas.

At what point is the MCU not having female superheroes be present and normalised now?

And that's before bringing up
WonderWoman
Birds of Prey
Stargirl
Batwoman
Supergirl
Harley Quinn's animated show

So, let me get this straight. The director wants to be called a director, not female director. That superheroes should be called superheroes, not female superheroes. And the critique is... the director trying to cover for the CGI and talking about the 'female lens' being used to critique it? Then talking about how the character, that is called She-Hulk, is written like a....FEMALE (shock/horror.)

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

No

Between her and MovieBob, that makes up maybe a half million people following them across all platforms combined. They are not even a drop in the bucket

So to be clear how many people does it need because half a million is probably more than the total followers of Q Aon lol.

So, let me get this straight. The director wants to be called a director, not female director. That superheroes should be called superheroes, not female superheroes. And the critique is... the director trying to cover for the CGI and talking about the 'female lens' being used to critique it? Then talking about how the character, that is called She-Hulk, is written like a....FEMALE (shock/horror.)

The issue was the idea of her presenting female superheros as uncommon and on about hoping to normalise them when they already are,

 

[Trunkage]

So to be clear how many people does it need because half a million is probably more than the total followers of Q Aon lol.

Q? The last Prime Minister in my country had a best friend that was part of Q. He got the Prime Minister to say some utterly stupid stuff, and then stated that he did that on social media and said that he was doing it for Q. They had more followers than these two. Well, until he got banned from Twitter

Legitimately, what are you talking about. There are MovieBobheads or Sarkesianites. None of them are anywhere near doing a raid on the US capital. They arent trying to rig election. They just have opinions

The issue was the idea of her presenting female superheros as uncommon and on about hoping to normalise them when they already are,

Yes, female superhero are uncommon. Yes, they are becoming less uncommon. But they are not yet common, not even after the last year. That list you provided was not that long. 5 years ago, you could say that female superheroes were rare, now they are uncommon. At the rate we are going, they are probably common in the next decade

 

[Phoenixmgs]

"How am I ignoring that?" *proceeds to immediate deflection*

I've said both parties are bad many many times. And that comes from ignoring the bad shit they do?

Except if they're trans, as you seem to be suggesting.

After all, if you are defending bans, you are effectively arguing it is not up to medical opinion, it's up to political ideology.



Rarely does anyone so plainly confess whataboutism is a central plank of their argument.

What bans have I defended? I literally just said if a doctor deems it medically necessary but that somehow equals me saying it's not up to medical opinion? Regardless of who you are, you don't get to simply have elective surgery because you don't like your body.

 

[Silvanus]

I've said both parties are bad many many times. And that comes from ignoring the bad shit they do?

It certainly comes from exaggerating one and downplaying the other, yes.

 

[Schadrach]

You wouldn't cover the 1st instance, why would you cover the 2nd instance?

If we're talking about medical value and not connected to mental health, breast reductions are also done to alleviate back pain. Because those things can be heavy and cause strain.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

If we're talking about medical value and not connected to mental health, breast reductions are also done to alleviate back pain. Because those things can be heavy and cause strain.

Not to mention that mental distress is a perfectly valid reason with medical value in the first place...unless you're trans.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

It certainly comes from exaggerating one and downplaying the other, yes.

That's exactly what all of you guys do here. The amount of posts about how bad some republican thing is vs a democrat thing is like 100:1 and that's probably being kind.

If we're talking about medical value and not connected to mental health, breast reductions are also done to alleviate back pain. Because those things can be heavy and cause strain.

I'm aware of that, I assume that's the number 1 reason for breast reductions. If it's done for a valid reason other than I just don't like X on my body, then it's fine.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

I'm aware of that, I assume that's the number 1 reason for breast reductions. If it's done for a valid reason other than I just don't like X on my body, then it's fine.

Why is that not a valid reason? Is gender dysphoria just not a thing in your world?

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Why is that not a valid reason? Is gender dysphoria just not a thing in your world?

Everyone has stuff they don't like about their body, do we all get to have elective surgery until we're satisfied?

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Yes, female superhero are uncommon. Yes, they are becoming less uncommon. But they are not yet common, not even after the last year. That list you provided was not that long. 5 years ago, you could say that female superheroes were rare, now they are uncommon. At the rate we are going, they are probably common in the next decade

ISIS? Wonderwoman who had a TV show for a while. Supergirl got a film Elektra. And this is before the modern era lol. They're really not uncommon not merely in comics but in wider media lol

 

[dreng3]

Everyone has stuff they don't like about their body, do we all get to have elective surgery until we're satisfied?

I'm sorry to keep bringing up neurology, but do you seriously believe that the part of the brain that determines how we perceive ourselves is always going to be perfect? Slight changes in our brain can cause all kinds of changes in behaviour, turning regular people into savants or turning the greatest of minds into common fools. Don't you consider it possible that someone might be born with a brain that says male but a body that says female?

And if that is the case I'd like for you to consider which is the easier solution to the brain/body disconnect. Is it to either A) Rewire the most complex organ known to man or to B) Complete some fairly simple surgical procedures?

 

[thebobmaster]

Oh, wow. You were able to name 2 whole movies with female superheroes before the "modern era". That totally offsets the 10 superhero movies I literally just thought of instantly from the same timespan.

Superman (which Supergirl is a spin-off from)
Superman 2
Superman 3
Superman 4
Steel
Batman
Batman Returns
Batman Forever
Batman and Robin
Daredevil (which Elektra is a spin-off from)

ETA: And these are just the ones I immediately thought of. I could have also listed the Spider-Man films, Michael Jai White's Spawn movie, and probably other comic book/superhero movies that haven't occurred to me yet.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Oh, wow. You were able to name 2 whole movies with female superheroes before the "modern era". That totally offsets the 10 superhero movies I literally just thought of instantly from the same timespan.

Superman (which Supergirl is a spin-off from)
Superman 2
Superman 3
Superman 4
Steel
Batman
Batman Returns
Batman Forever
Batman and Robin
Daredevil (which Elektra is a spin-off from)

ETA: And these are just the ones I immediately thought of. I could have also listed the Spider-Man films, Michael Jai White's Spawn movie, and probably other comic book/superhero movies that haven't occurred to me yet.

OK then I get to claim Catwoman then

Also

Sheena
Red Sonja
Tank Girl
Barb Wire
Aeon Flux
Vampirella
Witchblade

 

[Casual Shinji]

Oh, wow. You were able to name 2 whole movies with female superheroes before the "modern era". That totally offsets the 10 superhero movies I literally just thought of instantly from the same timespan.

Superman (which Supergirl is a spin-off from)
Superman 2
Superman 3
Superman 4
Steel
Batman
Batman Returns
Batman Forever
Batman and Robin
Daredevil (which Elektra is a spin-off from)

ETA: And these are just the ones I immediately thought of. I could have also listed the Spider-Man films, Michael Jai White's Spawn movie, and probably other comic book/superhero movies that haven't occurred to me yet.

You remembered to not forget Steel, but not Blankman?! How dare you!